[1. Call to Order] [00:00:08] 3:00. LET'S HAVE INVOCATION. RONNIE'S GOING TO LEAD US IN INVOCATION. WILL YOU BOW YOUR HEADS, PLEASE? HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS. AND WE THANK YOU FOR THIS MEETING. WE THANK YOU FOR OUR TIME TOGETHER. WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS WE HAVE. FATHER, WE PRAY TODAY AND ASK THAT YOU LEAD AND GUIDE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US, THAT WE DO EVERYTHING DECENTLY AND IN ORDER. AND WE THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR BLESSINGS. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE. PEGGY. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. BE SEATED. OKAY. [4. Consider the Minutes of August 13, 2026] HAVE YOU ALL READ THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING? AUGUST 13TH. I WAS NOT HERE, SO I DON'T THINK I CAN MAKE A MOTION. DOES Y'ALL? SO MOVED. MOVE THAT. THE SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ACTUALLY, WAIT, WAIT. SORRY, I WASN'T HERE EITHER. WELL, IT SAYS THOMAS IS HERE. THAT'S WHEN YOU WERE HERE. PEGGY WAS. IT WAS THE ONE NOT HERE. I JUST REALIZED WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I WAS GONNA SAY IT SAYS THOMAS IS HERE. WRONG MEANS OKAY, I GUESS I LOOKED AT THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST ONE. I WASN'T AT THE LAST ONE. SO DO I HEAR A MOTION BESIDES PEGGY? YES. MOTION SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY, WELL, APPROVED AS WRITTEN. DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? NO, SIR, WE DO NOT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S. ECONOMIC [6. Presentation and discussion of ODC Contractor reports] DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. TOM MANSKI, YOU'RE UP. LOOKS LIKE. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD MORNING. YOU'LL FIND OUR REPORT IN YOUR PACKET. NEED TO UPDATE THE DATE ON THAT. WITH REGARDS TO Q1, Q2 FOR 2026. NOT A LOT OF CHANGES THERE. SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH REAL QUICK AND LET YOU ALL HAD A QUESTION. THERE ARE TWO PROJECTS ON THERE THAT HAD KIND OF DISAPPEARED BRIEFLY. ONE OF THEM IS PROJECT. LET ME FIND IT AGAIN. I HAD IT IN FRONT OF ME. I KNOW PROJECT DESERT HILLS. OH, AND PROJECT POWER DOWN. WE REACHED BACK OUT TO THEM. THEY'VE KIND OF GONE SILENT AND, AND THEY'RE STILL INTEREST IN, IN DOING THOSE PROJECTS HERE IN IN. ODESSA, IN ECTOR COUNTY, ESPECIALLY DESERT HILLS, THAT WOULD BE A PROJECT THAT THAT ACTUALLY THEY'VE IDENTIFIED A SITE IN ODESSA. SO WE'RE TRYING TO FOLLOW UP WITH THEM AND GET THEM TO MOVE FORWARD. AND I THINK MOST ARE AT THE JOINT MEETING THE OTHER DAY, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE. ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS WE HAVE IS, IS ACTUALLY TO GET THE PAPERWORK IN, ESPECIALLY THE APPLICATIONS, GETTING THEM TO TURN THAT IN. AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT WITH DESERT HILLS RIGHT NOW. YOU ALSO SEE A LIST OF SOME DOWNTOWN GRANT ACTIVITY THERE. I KNOW IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN LAST MONTH, I THINK YOU ALL APPROVED FIVE, 4 OR 5 DOWNTOWN GRANTS. AND, AND WE'VE GOT SOME MORE WORKING NOW. I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP ACTIVITIES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INDICATORS, WHICH WILL ADDRESS YOUR LABOR MARKET SALES AND USE TAX REBATE, AND THEN THAT'S FOLLOWED WITH WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THAT THAT I CAN'T ANSWER, OBVIOUSLY, MONICA IS HERE WITH OUR OFFICE. YES, SIR. THIS IS UNDER SERVICES AND OTHER ACTIVITIES. THIS IS CERTIFICATE OF ORIGIN, PBA SUPPLY PARK, SHIPPING TO OMAN. WHAT IS THAT? WE PROBABLY DON'T PROMOTE THAT AS MUCH AS WE SHOULD. WE DO. THAT WAS STARTED DURING THE NAFTA DURING THE NORTH AMERICAN FREE TRADE AGREEMENT. AND WHAT IT IS IS NOW IF YOU'RE PRODUCING A PRODUCT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEND OVERSEAS, YOU. IF YOU'RE DOING IT HERE IN ODESSA OR ECTOR COUNTY, YOU COME TO OUR OFFICE AND CATHY DOES THOSE. CATHY VAUGHN, SHE CERTIFIES A CERTIFICATE OF. YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON THE PRODUCT WAS PRODUCED HERE IN ODESSA. THERE MIGHT EVEN BE BEFORE AFTER PICTURES WITH IT. AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS CERTIFYING THAT IT WAS MADE HERE BEFORE IT'S SHIPPED OVER. LIKE A LOT OF [00:05:04] PRODUCTS. GO TO THE MIDDLE EAST OUT OF HERE, WHETHER IT'S FOR THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. OKAY. AND SO WE DON'T DO A TON. WOULD YOU SAY 5 OR 6 A MONTH MAYBE? OKAY. I KNOW JUST THE OTHER DAY, SOMEBODY CAME IN ABOUT TWO DAYS AGO AND DID ONE. AND SO THEY COME TO OUR OFFICE AND HAVE THOSE FILLED OUT AND WE'RE CERTIFYING THAT THEY WERE THAT THEY WERE MANUFACTURED OR PRODUCED IN ODESSA AND OR ECTOR COUNTY. AND WHAT'S WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF THAT? IT'S JUST A REQUIREMENT FROM NAFTA. OKAY. YEAH. SO BENEFIT IS THE JOBS ARE HERE. WE'RE EXPORTING PRODUCTS OUT OF THE COUNTRY. YEAH. ANOTHER THING Y'ALL ARE DOING. I DIDN'T KNOW Y'ALL WERE DOING THIS. THE REASON I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS. SO IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR JOBS THAT HELPS SHOW THAT ODESSA IS DOING BUSINESS. THANK GOODNESS CHRISTIE IS IN THE AUDIENCE BECAUSE WE'RE NOW WORK ON MARKETING THAT SERVICE TO. SO CERTIFICATE OF ORIGIN. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOM? AND LIKE NORMAL WE'RE STILL WORKING ON A COUPLE OF DATA CENTER PROJECTS. I KNOW THEY DON'T MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY. THEY ARE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS. WE WILL HAVE ONE OF THE COMPANIES THAT'S ALREADY BEEN IN TOWN VISITED WITH US MULTIPLE TIMES. THEY'RE PART OF A VENTURE THAT'S ACTUALLY PURCHASED ACREAGE WITHIN ECTOR COUNTY. THEY WILL ACTUALLY BE IN TOWN AGAIN NEXT WEEK, AND WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER SOME MEETINGS, SOME OF YOU WITH WITH AGENCIES IN TOWN, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO MEET WITH THEM WHEN THEY'RE HERE. AND SO THAT'S STILL MOVING FORWARD AND, AND REMAINING PRODUCTIVE AND AFTER AFTER WORKFORCE, YOU WILL FIND OUR BUSINESS RETENTION EXPANSION REPORT. I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE. WE'LL SAY WE HAD A VISIT WITH A LOCAL COMPANY TUESDAY THAT WENT VERY WELL. AND, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO GET APPLICATION IN BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT EXPANSION HERE IN OR HERE IN ECTOR COUNTY. IT'S JUST RIGHT OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS. AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT WAS POINTED OUT TO US AT THE JOINT MEETING WITH REGARDS TO, WHY DON'T WE DO MORE PROJECTS IN ODESSA? WE'RE GOING TO CERTAINLY TARGET BERNIE IN ODESSA. BUT BUT ON SOME OF THIS SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS THAT REQUIRE A LOT OF ACREAGE, IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATELY NOT AVAILABLE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. THE DATA CENTER PROJECT, THEY PURCHASED 485 CONTIGUOUS ACRES. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND THAT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF OF ODESSA. SO AT LEAST AVAILABLE. YES, SIR. BUT IN THE MEETING WE HAD YESTERDAY, THEY ASKED ME QUESTIONS. CITY COUNCIL DID ABOUT WHAT ARE WE DOING? GEORGE GAVE ME A REPORT THAT I GAVE TO CITY COUNCIL YESTERDAY. WAS IT YESTERDAY? ANYWAY, TUESDAY, TUESDAY. ANYWAY, I DID NOT BRING THAT WITH ME. BUT GEORGE, THE EMAIL, WE WILL EMAIL IT TO EVERY MEMBER OF THE. IT'S A GOOD REPORT ON WHAT IT WAS, THE REPORT ON THE FACADE GRANTS WE'VE DONE OR IN PROCESS. IT'S $350,000 WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THIS YEAR. SO IT'S DETAIL AND THAT'S WHAT CITY COUNCIL WANTS. SO IF Y'ALL GOT IT, THEN YOU CAN TELL YOUR CITY COUNCIL. YEAH, WE'RE DOING STUFF. YOU WILL HAVE IT IN YOUR INBOX THIS AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. AND DON'T WE HAVE DON'T WE HAVE SOME THINGS TO ADD TO THE LIST? AM I ON THE SPREADSHEET THAT Y'ALL HAD FOR THE JOINT MEETING? WE'RE UPDATING THAT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. AND SO YOU GET THAT I WOULD SINCE WE'RE THURSDAY, YOU'LL GET IT NEXT WEEK FOR SURE. OKAY. BECAUSE IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR THAT THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE AN IDEA OR HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT OR DON'T HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT, OF THE JOBS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. WELL, AND I'LL TAKE THE BLAME FOR THAT. WE'RE GOING TO START SENDING THAT BOTH Y'ALL AND THE BOARD OR THE COUNCIL. EXCUSE ME. IT'S OBVIOUS AND WE'VE PROVIDED THAT BEFORE, BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE IT REGULARLY. SO AFTER A LITTLE WHILE, I GUESS OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND, THEY DON'T THINK ABOUT IT. AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO GET THAT ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS NOW. WELL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO SEE, AND FOR ALL OF US TO BE ABLE TO SEE, BE REMINDED THAT WE HAVE PROJECTS GOING ON ALL THE TIME AND WE HAVE NEW ONES. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD WE NEED TO HAVE THAT LIST WITH US ALL THE TIME TOO, BECAUSE WE SHOULD BE ABLE, AS BOARD MEMBERS TO RESPOND TO THAT REALLY EASILY TOO. SO. WELL, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE FAILED TO KIND OF COMMUNICATE LIKE THE, THE LARGEST EMPLOYMENT PROJECT, PRIVATE SECTOR EMPLOYMENT PROJECT THAT ODC HAS SUPPORTED IN THE, IN RECENT HISTORY WAS LIBERTY. THEY BROKE OR THEY DID THE RIBBON CUTTING IN APRIL AND THEIR 1500 NEW JOBS TO ODESSA. AND PRIOR TO THAT, THE LARGEST [00:10:04] CAPITAL INVESTMENT FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR IN ECTOR COUNTY. ODC SUPPORTED, WHICH WAS ABOUT 36 MONTHS AGO. AND THAT WAS THE OXY DAC, WHICH WAS EVEN THOUGH WHEN THEY SUBMITTED THEIR GRANT APPLICATION, THEY SAID A CAPITAL INVESTMENT OF $810 MILLION. IT WOUND UP BEING A CAPITAL INVESTMENT OF OF AROUND $1.5 BILLION. SO. WELL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU HEARD THEM ON TUESDAY AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, LIBERTY WAS A WHILE AGO. WELL, IT WASN'T REALLY THAT LONG AGO, BUT BUT WE JUST I THINK IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL AS YOURS TO BE ABLE TO SPIT OFF SOME THINGS WE'VE DONE. I MEAN, AS BOARD MEMBERS, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR BEING ABLE TO SAY THAT AS WELL. WELL, WE NEED TO PROVIDE YOU ALL THOSE NUMBERS ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS. SO. ANYTHING ELSE FOR TOM? DO WE NEED TO APPROVE HIS DEAL OR WE JUST JUST FOR DISCUSSION? I THINK THAT'S JUST A REPORT. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. TOM. TOM. THE REST OF THE BOARD PACKET. I DON'T KNOW IF CURRENT MEDIA WANTS TO SPEAK OR DO WE NEED TO HEAR THEM SPEAK OR IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS. ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT MARKETING? IT'S NOT THIS IS THIS IS OUR SEPTEMBER MEETING, BUT IT'S NOT TILL NEXT MONTH THAT YOU DO YOUR REPORT TO US, RIGHT? YEAH, WE'VE TALKED A LOT THIS WEEK. I THINK WE'RE GOOD. AND SAME THING WITH BLACK CHAMBER AND UTPB. I DON'T SEE HIM HERE AND MOTRIN. SO THEY'RE IN YOUR PACKETS. IF WE'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS, WE NEED TO BRING THEM UP AND ASK THEM BEFORE SO [7. Presentation, discussion, and approval of ODC Financials] THEY CAN TELL US NEXT TIME. KAYLA, YOU GOT THE ODC FINANCIALS. THANK YOU EVERYONE. I DID SEND THE EMAIL OUT AFTER THE PACKET GOT SENT OUT. DID EVERYBODY GET THAT OR I HAVE A FEW COPIES IF ANYBODY NEEDS ONE, I GOT IT. OKAY, GREAT. DO YOU HAVE A PRINTED COPY? I DO, YES, MA'AM. I'D LIKE A PRINTED COPY. YOU DON'T MIND ME TO. COME OVER 50. WE DIDN'T. WE DIDN'T HAVE EMAIL. THANK YOU. OH, FOR THE WHOLE THING. I PRINTED IT OUT. I THOUGHT YOU MEANT YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE. I'VE GOT THIS. I PRINTED THAT OUT. THANK YOU. UP THERE. THAT'S ALL RIGHT, I SAID I'M OVER 50. I DON'T READ EMAIL. OKAY, SO YOU HAVE THE SUMMARY IN FRONT OF IT. I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH DOES A GOOD OVERVIEW. SO I'LL GO THROUGH THE PAGES AT ANY POINT. YOU HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE JUST STOP ME ON OUR BALANCE SHEET. YOU WILL NOTICE THAT OF COURSE WE HAVE THE UPDATED FORMAT. I HOPE THAT STILL WORKS FOR EVERYONE UNDER THE SHORT TERM COMMITMENT, THE LONG TERM COMMITMENTS. I'M SORRY. YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE TWO HIGHLIGHTED. THOSE ARE SOME THAT I KNOW ABOUT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE FULLY EXECUTED CONTRACT FOR JUST YET. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WERE HIGHLIGHTED. IT MAY HAVE COME IN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, AND I DON'T HAVE IT JUST YET, BUT WE ARE WATCHING FOR THAT AFTER OUR LAST DISCUSSION OF THESE CONTRACTS AND KEEPING THEM ORDER. WE HAVE A NEW PROCESS ON THE SECOND FLOOR WHERE WE HAVE ALL OF THESE BEING TRACKED. I HAVE A PROJECT ACCOUNTANT THAT'S HELPING ME KEEP UP WITH THIS. SO WE'RE STARTING THAT PROCESS. SO IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE HERE. WE SHOULD BE RIGHT ON BOARD WITH MR. MANSKY AND EVERYBODY ELSE ON THESE ISSUES. AND CHRISTINA AND I, I BUG HER ALL THE TIME WITH QUESTIONS. SO WE ARE WE ARE KEEPING THAT CLEAR AND THAT COMMUNICATION OPEN. SO I HOPE THAT WILL HELP. WHENEVER WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THESE THINGS. SO SO KAYLA, ON THE COURSE ON THE TEAM REFURB, WE'RE GOING OVER THAT TODAY BECAUSE THAT WHOLE AMOUNT, ONCE THAT SIGNED WILL, THE LONG TERM PART WILL NOT BE THAT AMOUNT. IT'LL BE LESS. BUT LIKE THE ODESSA COLLEGE, DON'T WE HAVE A PAYOUT ON THAT OR IS THAT ALL UP FRONT? WASN'T IT 2 OR 3 YEARS? I THINK WE WERE GOING TO GIVE THREE. AND THEN LONG TERM IT'S ALL IN LONG TERM. I KNOW IT IS, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE. WE HAVE THE CONTRACT YET RIGHT? US COLLEGE. SO I PUT IT ON THERE IN THE SHORT TERM WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE PAID VERY SOON IN UPCOMING, BECAUSE WE REVIEW IT FOR COMPLIANCE. AT THAT POINT, IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT METHOD, IT DOES NOT MATTER TO ME BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT SHORT TERM MEANS. OF COURSE, I COULD PUT IT ON THERE IF IT'S THE YEAR. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. WE'VE BEEN DOING IT AS WE GET THE PAYMENTS READY. YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT. AND USUALLY WE HAD. WE HAVE HAD IN THE PAST WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE, THE SHEET THAT SHOWED US EVERY SINGLE PROJECT AND HOW MUCH WAS [00:15:03] SHORT TERM FOR THE YEAR AND HOW MUCH WAS LONG TERM? IS IT THE RESERVES PAGE? WAS IT IN THAT? WELL, YOU JUST GOT IT ON RESERVE. YOU GOT IT ALL LUMPED TOGETHER AT 1.8. THE ONLY ONE YOU BROKE OUT WAS D, J, K, AND THAT'S BECAUSE I KNOW THEY JUST REQUESTED THEY JUST. AND SOME OF THOSE I WON'T BE ABLE TO PUT IN THERE UNTIL I KNOW FOR SURE, DEPENDING ON THE AGREEMENT. BUT IF THERE'S AGREEMENTS THAT ARE CLEAR CUT PAYMENTS, I DON'T MIND CHANGING THAT. I CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT. WELL, WE'VE HAD WE WE USUALLY UNLESS THEY'VE ALL PAID OFF, WE'VE HAD A SHEET BEFORE THAT HAD PAYMENTS, THE AMOUNT THAT WAS CURRENT FOR EVERYTHING ON THERE. YES, MA'AM. I'VE SEEN SHEETS LIKE THAT. BUT WHENEVER WE WOULD DO THAT, THEY WERE PAYMENTS THAT WERE ALREADY IN OUR HANDS TO BE PAID AND READY FOR PAYMENT, AND THEY WOULD BE PAID IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN MY HAND AS OF JULY TO BE PAID, BUT I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE CONTRACTS AND JUST BREAK OUT THE TIMELINE. I CAN DO THAT. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. WELL, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY I THINK IT WOULDN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE BECAUSE WE RESERVE THE. YEAH. THAT'S WHY I HAVEN'T WORRIED ABOUT IT. MAKE A DIFFERENCE. YOU KNOW, IN SOME OF THE REQUESTS THAT THE CITY IS ASKING US TO CONSIDER HOW MUCH IS GOING TO BE PAID, THIS THIS YEAR DURING THE YEAR IS, IS, IS IMPORTANT. NOW, I KNOW IT'S ALL IN LONG, SO WE SHOULD HAVE IT. AND IT DOESN'T REALLY COME OUT OF WHAT WE HAVE BECAUSE OUR BALANCE, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE WHOLE THING PUT IN LONG TERM. I JUST, I DON'T KNOW, I, I PERSONALLY WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE COMING UP IN THE YEAR. I CAN DO THAT. I CAN DO THAT. YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE, THE FUND BALANCE AT THE BOTTOM. IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE HOW CITY MANAGEMENT LOOKS AND SEE YOUR AVAILABLE FUNDS. IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THAT. BUT I SEE YOUR POINT AND I DO NOT MIND JUST GOING THROUGH IT. THE ONLY CAVEAT WILL BE THOSE THAT WE DON'T PAY OUT UNTIL THEY MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS. I DON'T WE DON'T PAY OUT UNTIL THEY MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS. UNTIL I'VE KNOWN THEY MET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. I'LL LEAVE THOSE IN LONG TERM, BUT ONCE. BUT THE OTHER ONES, IF THEY HAVE SET PAYMENTS WITHOUT SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS, I CAN MOVE THOSE INTO SHORT. THEY ALL HAVE THEIR REQUIREMENTS. SHOULD IT BE PENDING THIS YEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE REQUIREMENTS, RIGHT? YES, SIR. AND I GUESS WHAT I SHOULD HAVE SPECIFIED IS MORE STRICT REQUIREMENTS LIKE THE WORKFORCE, THOSE ONES THAT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT SEVERE COMPLIANCE. WELL, THEY ARE MOST OF THEM DO. AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I WOULD RATHER NOT PUT IN SHORT TERM TO RENEW BECAUSE THE AMOUNT COULD VARY. BUT AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE FUND BALANCE IS THE SAME. AND IF IT HELPS YOU TO SEE THEM THAT WAY, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT. THAT'S JUST THE EXPLANATION FOR WHY I DIDN'T. BUT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS NOT INCORRECT, OF COURSE. WELL, I THINK THE ONLY REASON THAT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO US IS THAT IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD ADJUST OUR NECESSARY FUND BALANCE IF WE NEEDED TO, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME IDEA OF ON A OF, ON AN ANNUAL OR MONTHLY TIMES KIND OF BASIS. SO YOU'RE WANTING LIKE A CASH FLOW ANALYSIS, MORE LIKE JUST THE WAY YOU HAVE DONE IT IN THE PAST. YEAH. LAST YEAR WITH INVESTMENT MEANT WE LOOKED AT HOW MUCH WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY OUT THIS NEXT 12 MONTHS, AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO TIE THAT UP IN LONG TERM INVESTMENTS. WE WANT TO HEAR THAT MONEY AVAILABLE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT SHE'S ASKING FOR IS HOW MUCH OF THIS IS GOING TO ARE WE GOING TO NEED TO PAY IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS? SO SO WE NEED TO HAVE THAT. WE NEED TO PUT THAT IN TEXT OR WHEREVER IT'S, IT'S EASY MONEY TO GET TO. I CAN DO THAT. NOT A PROBLEM. AND I THINK WE ALSO, IT COULD BE KIND OF A GUIDE TO US ON TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME NUMBER THAT WE NEED TO KEEP FOR CURRENT PROJECTS THAT MIGHT COME UP. SO IF YOU COULD DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE. SURE CAN. THANK YOU. YOU WILL NOTICE THAT ON YOUR THE UNRESERVED OR I'M SORRY, THE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE JUST KIND OF EARMARKED, THAT IS USUALLY THE 25 MILLION THAT WENT DOWN TO 22 MILLION. I HAD TO KIND OF REDUCE IT. AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A POT. THIS DOESN'T CHANGE YOUR FUND BALANCE. IT'S JUST A POT WHERE I DID THAT AND I DID THAT KIND OF BASED OFF OF THE NON EXECUTED. THAT'S JUST KIND OF BECAUSE I NEEDED TO PULL IT FROM SOMEWHERE BECAUSE IT WAS SHOWING A NEGATIVE AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE AND THAT'S NOT ACCURATE. SO I HAD TO KIND OF PULL IT FROM SOMEWHERE. SO THAT WAS THE METHODOLOGY I TOOK. AND THAT'S FOR THE FACADE AND INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS. THE CAVEAT AND THE TEAM REFURB. MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION. PARDON ME. I'M SORRY. I'M HAVING A HARD TIME. MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION. THIS WASN'T ABOUT FACADE. UNLESS IT'S ONE OF THOSE FACADES, I DON'T KNOW. WHAT I [00:20:02] DID WAS JUST TOOK THE NON EXECUTED AND REDUCED THE DRY POWDER NUMBER BY THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE NON EXECUTED AND WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A NEGATIVE FUND BALANCE. IF I DID NOT A NEGATIVE AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE IF I DID NOT. OKAY. SO THEN I GUESS I'M YOU PROBABLY UNDERSTAND AND I'M THE ONE THAT DOESN'T THE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS IS WHAT WHAT IS THAT? THAT'S JUST WHERE WE WERE KEEPING THAT DRY POWDER, FOR LACK OF BETTER WORD. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A GOOD WORD TO PUT ON A BALANCE SHEET. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT USED TO BE 25 MILLION AND IT'LL GO BACK TO 25. WE'LL WE'LL KEEP THAT BACK AT 25 AS WE CAN. WE JUST CAN'T LET THAT AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE GO NEGATIVE. I DON'T KNOW WHICH PAGE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE BALANCE SHEET. THE SECOND PAGE PAGE TWO. YEAH. I WAS LOOKING AT THE STATEMENT OF REVENUES. EXPENDITURES CHANGE. AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BALANCE SHEET BALANCE SHEET THE BALANCE SHEET, FIXED FUND BALANCE CAPITAL. SO ON THE SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THEN I'M JUST TRYING TO RECONCILE THAT NUMBER ON THE INCOME STATEMENT THAT SAYS REMAINING BUDGET 11 MILLION FOR 27. SO YOU WON'T SEE THE BUDGET WON'T BE REFLECTED IN YOUR BALANCE SHEET. RIGHT. SO. BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. I'M SORRY, BUT IF IF OUR BASICALLY I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT THAT I GUESS WE'VE USED 4 MILLION 269 HAS BEEN POSTED AGAINST THAT AGAINST THE 25 MILLION AGAINST THE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT. YES, MA'AM. SO WHENEVER I DID ALL OF THE RESERVES AMOUNTS THAT THROUGH THAT AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE THE UNRESERVED AMOUNT INTO A NEGATIVE. AND WE DON'T WANT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S INACCURATE. SO IN ORDER TO OVERCOME THAT, I JUST TOOK THE UNEXECUTED AMOUNTS OUT OF THAT DRY POWDER, WHICH WE WERE CALLING CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE ON HERE. OKAY. OKAY. SO WHEN WE SAID DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY THAT OUR DRY POWDER IS INCLUDED IN OUR IN OUR AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE, I WAS TELLING THE TRUTH. YOU WERE ABSOLUTELY TELLING THE TRUTH. I WANTED TO BE SURE. I THOUGHT THE NUMBER WAS 19 MILLION. BUT YOU'RE SAYING IT'S 22 MILLION. YEAH. AND THEN SHE'S TAKING THOSE TWO OUT OF THAT. AND WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT BACK TO THE 25 AS SOON AS WE CAN. THAT'LL BE MY GOAL. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S OUR GOAL. WE'RE I MEAN WELL UNTIL Y'ALL TELL ME DIFFERENT THAT'S WHAT I'LL DO. YEAH. IT'S ALMOST LIKE A. AN ONGOING BUDGET POINT THAT NEEDS TO BE HIT EVERY TIME WE MEET. AND IF IT'S NOT, IT'S JUST MEANT TO SPARK THE DISCUSSION AS TO WHY. AND I, I THINK OUR CHARGE BASICALLY WAS TO DETERMINE IF THAT 25 MILLION IS THE RIGHT NUMBER FOR US TO HAVE AVAILABLE TO DO DEALS. THAT'S WHAT I HEARD ANYWAY. YEAH, I WASN'T THERE. I MISSED THAT MEETING. YEAH. THAT'S, BUT THAT'S A THAT'S NOT I KNOW THAT'S A SEPARATE MEETING. I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE WHEN I SAID 19 MILLION THAT I KNEW WHAT I WAS SAYING. YOU DID, YOU WERE RIGHT THERE. AND THAT NUMBER, YOU KNOW, NOT TELLING YOU BECAUSE I KNOW YOU KNOW, BUT BALANCE SHEETS WILL FLUCTUATE EVERY DAY. YEAH I DO, SO YOU'RE SO YOU'RE NOT INACCURATE AT ALL. OKAY. ON THE STATEMENT OF REVENUES, YOU WILL NOTE THAT THE FUND BALANCE DID IS INCREASING BASED OFF OF 25 END OF YEAR 25 FOR THE END OF YEAR 26. IT'S ON A GOOD TRACK. YOUR REVENUES ARE COMING IN GOOD, A LITTLE BIT ABOVE SCHEDULE. SO WE'RE STAYING STEADY THERE. THE EXPENDITURES, YOU CAN SEE THEM. THOSE ARE PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY. SINCE THIS TIME WE HAVE PAID OUT A JC PAYMENT. WE'RE ABOUT TO PAY OUT AN A B PAYMENT, WHICH WAS MINIMAL 3.6 THOUSAND. I NEED TO GET THAT TO YOU, MR. BASCOMB, FOR APPROVAL. I'LL GET IT TO YOU PROBABLY NEXT WEEK. I THINK WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE A PINCHITOS COME OUT AND LIBERTY HAS REQUESTED ANOTHER PAYMENT, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY'RE DUE FOR ONE YET. SO I'M WORKING WITH LEGAL TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK FOR THAT, MAKE SURE WE'RE UNDERSTANDING THEIR AMENDMENT RIGHT. SO I'VE RESPONDED. THEY KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, BUT I'M JUST NOT SURE IT'S DUE YET. AND THAT'S IF YOU GO BACK AND DO THAT SHEET LIKE YOU WERE DOING OR SOMEBODY WAS DOING, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE WE WOULD SEE, YES, MA'AM. YEAH, WE'VE ALREADY CUT THAT CHECK. MILLION EIGHT. WHICH 1 MILLION? EIGHT. THE JK [00:25:01] YES, SIR. YES, SIR. OKAY. YOU ARE CORRECT. AND THEN THE RESERVE SHEETS. PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE JUST WENT OVER. I'LL MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS AS YOU REQUESTED. NOT A PROBLEM. YOU WILL NOTICE ON THE INVESTMENT SUMMARY, THERE WAS A DEDUCTION ON ONE OF OUR ACCOUNTS FOR 452,000. THAT IS ONE OF THOSE ACCOUNTS WHERE WE GET AN INTEREST STATEMENT ONCE A YEAR. AND SO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WE'RE ESTIMATING INTEREST. AND IT WAS WRONG. AND I MADE THE ADJUSTMENTS AND I HAVE THOSE STATEMENTS AT ANY TIME. Y'ALL WANT TO SEE THEM. ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE PAGE FIVE. VERY LAST ONE. SO AND THAT'S ON THE CDS. YES, SIR. AND IT IS SPECIFICALLY THE FIRST BANK AND TRUST THE EIGHT MONTH CD. OKAY. HAVE YOU GONE BACK SINCE WE SET UP THESE CDS? BECAUSE LIKE OURS, RENEWED AT A LOWER RATE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR CALCULATION. NOBODY CALLED THE BANK BECAUSE Y'ALL WERE UNDERSTAFFED. I UNDERSTAND, BUT I'M SAYING SO ARE THESE RATES THAT ARE ON THIS SHEET CORRECT? NOW, I JUST GOT THESE OFF THE STATEMENTS. THESE ALL JUST GOT BRAND NEW STATEMENTS IN. AND WE MAY WANT TO PULL SOME OF THOSE IF THEY MATURE AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET US ABOVE 3%, WE NEED TO PUT THEM BACK IN TAX POOL. I THINK LAST TIME YOU'RE RIGHT BECAUSE TEXAS WAS DOING IT'S HOLDING STEADY. I THINK LAST TIME WE MET WE TALKED ABOUT GETTING A MEETING TOGETHER. DID Y'ALL NEED ME TO TRY TO SET THAT UP? THAT'S FINE. BUT I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU'VE GOT SOME MATURING, IF YOU GET A NOTICE AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RENEW ABOVE 3%, I WOULD TELL YOU TO GO AHEAD AND PUT IT BACK IN TAX UNTIL WE FIND SOME LONGER TERM STUFF THAT'S GOING TO MAKE US MORE MONEY. AND I CAN DO THAT BASED OFF THIS AUTHORITY. OKAY, I THINK YOU CAN. MAYBE WE NEED TO I THINK I THINK THAT'S I MEAN, TEXAS IS PAYING HIGHER. IF THEY IF YOU CAN'T GET A CD HIGHER THAN TEXAS, I'LL PUT IT BACK IN TEXAS UNTIL WE CAN MEET AND TALK ABOUT IT. THAT'LL MAKE US A LITTLE MORE MONEY. YES, SIR. RATHER THAN THAT CHANGE, THERE WASN'T ANYTHING ELSE UNEXPECTED ON THOSE STATEMENTS. ANYBODY? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KAYLA? ANY DISCUSSION, ANY MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED. THANK YOU MA'AM. [8. Presentation and discussion of ODC Committee and Officer reports] THANK YOU ALL. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM IS THESE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES. OH THAT'S A PARTNERSHIP WE ARE GOING TO MEET MONDAY. SO I GUESS WE CAN REPORT ON THAT NEXT TIME. ADVERTISING. HAVE YOU ALL CAN I CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON ODESSA PARTNERSHIP. I GOT A NOTICE ABOUT THAT. AM I SUPPOSED TO GO TO THAT AGAIN IF YOU WANT. WELL, I DON'T CARE. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS WHAT YOU'RE PROBABLY SUPPOSED TO INSTEAD OF TIM, BECAUSE THE VICE CHAIR, BECAUSE I. IT WAS ME AND TIM. AND THEN. SO THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE CHANGED TO YOU AND ME. BUT TIM'S BEEN GOING WHEN I WASN'T THERE, SO, I MEAN, I DON'T GUESS IT MATTERS. IT DOESN'T. DOES IT MATTER, RENEE? NO. I THINK EACH ENTITY HAS TWO REPRESENTATIVES. SO. AND IT HAD BEEN CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. AND WHEN WE MOVED EVERYBODY AROUND GOING, YEAH, TIM'S BEEN GOING. SO YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT. DO YOU WANT TO KEEP ON GOING? I JUST KNEW THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE ANSWER, ONLY BECAUSE IT'S SO DIFFICULT FOR ME TO GET THERE, NOT BECAUSE OF THE I MEAN, OKAY, WELL, I'VE GOT IT ON MY CALENDAR. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHY I REQUESTED TO ADD YOU BECAUSE I, I'M NOT GOING TO MENTION WHO MISSED TWO MEETINGS IN A ROW PARTNERSHIP MEETINGS. SO I FELT LIKE ASSISTANT THAT THE VICE PRESIDENT SHOULD BE. WOW. OKAY. AND THEY WOULDN'T CHANGE THOSE. THEY WERE DURING MY VACATION. I JUST COULDN'T MISS THAT DISNEYLAND WITH THE GRANDCHILD. I JUST HAD TO GO. SO SO ANYWAY, LET'S CHANGE THAT TO PEGGY ON THAT COMMITTEE AND THEN ADVERTISING. RONNIE OR TIM. Y'ALL MET, DIDN'T YOU? YEAH. YEAH. WELL, DO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING OR Y'ALL? Y'ALL GOT EVERYTHING ON? EVERYTHING'S GOOD. YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ALL WE CAN AND THEN GET SOME MORE FROM SOMEWHERE. WOW. OKAY. NOT REALLY. NO. WE DO. WE. DO. HOW DO WE REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL? I MEAN, DO WE DO A GOOD ENOUGH JOB ON THAT BECAUSE THEY QUESTIONED OUR ADVERTISING BUDGET? WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE MENTIONED YESTERDAY WAS MEETING MORE OFTEN WITH THEM. YEAH. I THE DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK. CRAIG STOKER HAS CONTACTED US AND WE'VE. KRISTI AND I HAVE TALKED TO HIM LAST WEEK. SO TO MAKE SURE WE GOT OUR BUDGET PASSED. [00:30:01] AND THEN SINCE THEN WE HAVE INVITED STOKER. HE SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THE MOST CONCERNED TO COME TO EACH ONE OF OUR MEETINGS. SO OUR QUARTERLY MEETINGS. STOKER WILL HAVE AN INVITE. HE HAD ONE TODAY. HE DIDN'T MAKE IT, BUT HE HAD THEM. AND KRISTI GAVE ME A SPREADSHEET TO TALK TO CITY COUNCIL WITH, WHICH WAS VERY HELPFUL TOO. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE PREPARING THAT QUARTERLY MONTHLY. WE. IS IT OKAY IF I. SURE. SO TOM AND I TALKED ABOUT IT. WE'RE GOING TO KEEP UPDATING THAT SPREADSHEET FOR SURE. PEGGY, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY REALLY KNOW THE REPORTING, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE, WE SIMPLIFIED OUR REPORTING ABOUT A YEAR AGO, AND YOU HAVE TO CLICK ON THE LINK THAT TAKES YOU TO ALL OF THE METRICS. AND THEY'RE IN THERE EVERY MONTH, WHETHER WE REPORT OR NOT. AND I THINK FOR MOST OF THE COUNCIL, THAT'S PROBABLY SUFFICIENT. I DO THINK CRAIG STOKER HAS SOME DEEPER QUESTIONS. AND TOM AND I JUST. STEVE THOMPSON YES, AND I, I THINK WE NEED TO I THINK TOM AND I AND HIS TEAM NEED TO GET TOGETHER TO KIND OF MARRY UP SOME OF OUR NUMBERS. I THINK THAT'S WHERE THEY WANT TO GO DEEPER, BECAUSE I THINK IF SOMEBODY LOOKS AT YOUR WEB PAGE AND WE GET A HIT AND IT ENDS UP BEING A PROSPECT, YES, WE NEED TO SOMEHOW MONITOR THAT. EXACTLY. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING BECAUSE NOW WE'RE GETTING THAT FROM SOME OF THAT OUT THERE DATA, BUT WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT TRACKING THAT GUY. WELL, HOW DID WE GET THEM RIGHT? HOW DID WE GET THEM INTERESTED IN ODESSA? YEAH. THEY DIDN'T JUST COME HERE AND SAY, OH, WE WANT TO LAND HERE. AND THAT'S A MEASUREMENT THAT STEVE WANTS. OKAY, WE GOT TO HIT. DIDN'T HE JUST WRITE SOMETHING COME UP? AND I MEAN, HONESTLY, IT'S A HARDER MEASUREMENT, RIGHT, TO, TO DO THOSE. BUT I DO THINK WE'LL FIND SOME CORRELATIONS. AND I ONE THING I DIDN'T GET TO SAY TO, TO COUNCIL, WE GET A LOT OF EXTRA INFORMATION ON THE EXACT COMPANIES THAT ARE VISITING OUR SITE WHO ARE CLICKING ON OUR ADS. WE HAVE THE COMPANY NAMES. WE JUST DON'T PUT THEM IN A PUBLIC REPORT. SO WE DON'T JEOPARDIZE ANYTHING THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM MAY BE WORKING ON. BUT WE WERE TALKING, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO START MEETING REGULARLY TO KIND OF COMPARE WHAT I'M GETTING, WHAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR SOFTWARE, AND JUST SEE HOW WE MARRY THAT UP AND REPORT BACK. SO WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER YET, BUT WE, WE KNOW WE NEED TO, TO HAVE ONE. SO IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO GET THE MEANINGFUL INFORMATION WITHOUT THE SPECIFIC NAMES OF THE CORPORATIONS AS WELL. WE CAN STILL MAINTAIN THE CONFIDENTIALITY AND STILL BUILD OUT THE, THE METRICS FOR US TO ANALYZE AND LOOK AT. MAYBE THE INDUSTRY. WE COULD DEFINITELY. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WHEN I SEND IT TO YOU GUYS, WE'RE SENDING IT TO THE STAFF, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE STRIPPING IT, WE'RE STRIPPING IT. AND I KIND OF GIVE YOU A, A GLANCE FROM LEAD FORENSICS, BUT WE COULD DEFINITELY JUST DO A SMALL REPORT THAT SAYS, THIS IS THE KIND OF BUSINESSES WE'RE GETTING. HOW MANY ARE LOCAL? HOW MANY ARE EXTERNAL? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE I WAS TALKING ABOUT OUR RESPONSIBILITY OF KNOWING HOW MANY DEALS WE'VE DONE. YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY ASK US IF WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE GETTING OUR MONEY'S WORTH, WE ALL SAID ABSOLUTELY, YES, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DEFEND THAT BETTER, RIGHT? AND TO HAVE IT AT A GLANCE, YOU KNOW, I, I'M SAYING THIS IS ALL OF US AGAIN. AND, AND I, AND I SO APPRECIATED THAT, BUT I, WHAT I DON'T GIVE YOU RIGHT NOW IS YOU HAVE THAT LINK, WHICH IS ANOTHER 30 PAGES. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, TO, TO HAVE THAT AT A GLANCE. I THINK WHAT YOU HAD SAID, WHAT GEORGE PROVIDED ON THE THE BRE JOB, THE ONE SHEET THAT YOU ALL GET MONTHLY THAT JUST HAS THIS IS THE MAIN INFORMATION AND THE, THE BETTER INFORMATION I THINK MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO ARM YOU GUYS TO ANSWER THOSE THINGS. SO I CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT. AND EVEN IF THEY END UP NOT BEING ONE THAT LANDS HERE, BUT IF WE GOT THEM TO TALK TO US THROUGH THAT ADVERTISING, THAT'S A WIN. YEAH, WE HAD WON THEM ALL TO SIGN UP. WE HAD ONE DIRECT THAT TOM CALLED ME ON SEVERAL MONTHS AGO THAT I MEAN, HE SAW AN AD CALLED IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. BUT I MEAN, THERE WAS A GREAT CONVERSATION. THEY WERE IN OUR TARGET INDUSTRIES. I MEAN, IT'S HOW WE WANT IT TO PERFORM, BUT WE'RE NOT REPORTING ON ALL OF THAT. SO WE'LL FIND BETTER WAYS FOR SURE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. BUT I THINK THE THAT THAT MEETING WAS A WAKE UP CALL TO US TO THAT WE NEED TO BE MORE AWARE. YES, AND BE ABLE TO SPEAK BETTER. AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION THAT AND AGAIN, THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO POUR THROUGH 60 PAGES OF A REPORT. YOU NEED THE BASICS IN FRONT OF YOU. AND WE'LL DO A BETTER JOB AT THAT FOR SURE. YEAH. YOU GATHER IT ALL UP AND GET IT TO WHERE WE CAN UNDERSTAND IT, AND YOU'LL BE GOOD. ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. THE COMPLIANCE MEET. ANY NEWS ON COMPLIANCE, RONNIE? PEGGY JEFFERSON, WE'VE GOT ONE ON THE SCHEDULE. OKAY? INVESTMENT. WE HAVEN'T MET. WELL, KAYLA'S GOING TO GET US IN LINE, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING ON INVESTMENTS, INDUSTRIAL WATER TASK FORCE. NO, WE WE DIDN'T MEET. BUT IT'S BECAUSE TWO OF OUR MAIN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN GONE ON. YEAH, THEY'RE GONE OUT OF THE COUNTRY ON A BIRD HUNT. AND THEN [00:35:03] ANOTHER HUNT. THEY'RE HUNTING FOR WATER. BUT WE'VE GOT A PERSON THAT WANTS TO MEET WITH US. AND I'VE TOLD HIM THAT WE WOULD SCHEDULE SOMETHING IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO WHEN THEY GOT BACK. SO WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO MEET WITH US ABOUT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THEIR WATER. SO WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING NEXT. OKAY, YOU'VE GOT IT TOO. SO DISCUSS AND [9. Discuss and consider providing a notice of termination of agreement to E&L Homebuilders] CONSIDER PROVIDING A NOTICE OF TERMINATION OF AGREEMENT TO ENL HOME BUILDERS. FACADE GRANT. ARE YOU GOING TO PRESENT THAT OR ANYBODY OR ARE WE JUST LOOK AT IT AND READ IT. E AND B BUILDERS WE'RE GOING TO TERMINATE THAT CONTRACT. WHAT I UNDERSTAND. GEORGE TOM ANYBODY KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THAT CONTRACT BESIDES WHAT'S IN THE PACKAGE. OR TO GUIDE US THROUGH THE PACKAGE? REASON I WAS HESITANT TO COME UP HERE IS BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM. APPARENTLY THEY WERE. THEY MADE AN APPLICATION FOR A GRANT SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND NOTHING HAS COME OF IT. WE WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO THEM AND MADE AN ATTEMPT TO CONTACT THEM. I THINK THE PRINCIPAL AT ONE POINT WAS A RESIDENT OF ODESSA AND THE ROLLING HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH ANYBODY. AND SO I THINK FINANCE DEPARTMENT BROUGHT A LIST OF, OF PROJECTS AT THE LAST MEETING. AND WE TOLD THEM WE WEREN'T REALLY AWARE OF OF WHAT THE GRANT WAS OR ANYTHING. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN OUR RECORDS ABOUT IT. AND SO I GUESS I PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO REQUEST A TERMINATION. SO THEY NEVER DID SIGN A FULL CONTRACT. YEAH THEY DID. YEAH. IT'S MAY THEY NEVER ASKED FOR ANY MONEY. THAT'S I THINK I THINK THE I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT THE PROJECT JUST WOUND UP NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT HAPPENING. YEAH. YEAH. DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO. BUT A LOT OF TIMES WHEN IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THEY DON'T REACH BACK OUT TO US TO LET US KNOW THAT THERE'S TWO AGREEMENTS. THERE'S AN INFRASTRUCTURE AND A FACADE. TWO TERMINATION OF WHICH AGREEMENT? OR BOTH? BOTH. BOTH. OKAY. YEAH. AND SO DO WE NEED TO APPROVE THAT WE'RE TERMINATING THOSE AGREEMENTS? YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE. I MEAN, IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE THAT THEY'RE TERMINATED BECAUSE IT SAID IT AUTOMATICALLY TERMINATED A YEAR AFTER A YEAR. IT'S BEEN LONGER THAN A YEAR. YEAH, IT'S BEEN TWO. IT'S BEEN TWO AND A HALF YEARS. YEAH. AND, AND THERE'S BEEN NO ATTEMPT TO, TO RETURN OUR CONTACT OR REACH OUT ON THEIR OWN. BUT, BUT WE'VE TRIED TO CONTACT YES OR NO. SO ARE THEY IN SAN ANTONIO OR WHERE ARE THEY. THAT'S WHERE THE COMPANY WAS OFFICED OUT OF IT. LOOKS LIKE THEY SIGNED THE CONTRACT. BUT ALSO ROLAND LINZ, ODESSA, TEXAS. I MEAN, WE HAD ANOTHER ONE LIKE THAT. IT WAS A LIKE A STEEL HOME MANUFACTURER. AND THE GUY I FORGOT HIS NAME WAS OUT OF AUSTRALIA. YOU REMEMBER THAT? I DO REMEMBER. AND THEY THEY GOT ALL THE WAY TO THE AGREEMENT PORTION. I DON'T THINK THEY ACTUALLY SIGNED THEIRS. BUT BUT YOU KNOW, THEY HAD WE HAD MEETINGS WITH THEM. AN AGREEMENT WAS PUT TOGETHER. I THINK YOU OUGHT TO ACTUALLY APPROVE FOR SOME FUNDING. AND THEN IT JUST WENT AWAY. YEAH. I MAKE A MOTION. WE TERMINATE FIRST, MAKE CERTAIN IT'S VERY CLEAR. I WASN'T SURE. I DIDN'T SEE ANY INFORMATION IN THE PACKET. BUT WHAT DID THE BOARD ACTUALLY MAKE ANY PAYMENTS TO THE TO EITHER. I DON'T THINK SO. NO. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S BEEN ANY PAYMENTS MADE AT ALL. SO IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO TERMINATE JUST MAKE CERTAIN THE MOTION LANGUAGE TERMINATE BOTH. JUST MAKE CERTAIN THE MOTION LANGUAGE IS CLEAR TO STATE BOTH AGREEMENTS AND MAYBE SOME GENERAL REASON AS TO WHY. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'LL BE SENDING A NOTE. ACTUALLY A NOTICE OF TERMINATION WILL HAVE TO BE MAILED. AND IF THE IF THE BOARD'S OPTING TO TERMINATE DUE TO LACK OF CONTACT OR INFORMATION OR LACK OF LACK OF ANY KIND OF COMMUNICATION, THEN IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO SPECIFY THE REASON WHY THE TERMINATION IS BEING MOVED FORWARD ON IS THE IS THE 1.2 ARTICLE ONE? 1.2 IS THAT. WOULD THAT BE WHAT WOULD BE SAID IN THE MOTION? I SEE A 1.3 TERMINATION SAYS 30 DAYS ADVANCE. WRITTEN NOTICE OF. THE BOARD IS OPTING TO EXERCISE UNDER JUST YOU KNOW, EITHER IT'S BECAUSE IT'S BEEN MORE THAN ONE YEAR OR, YOU KNOW, MOTION TO TERMINATE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN MORE THAN ONE YEAR OR DUE TO LACK OF COMMUNICATION. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING ABOUT IS, IS IT WE WANT TO TERMINATE BECAUSE IT SAYS IN NO EVENT SHALL THE TERM [00:40:06] EXCEED ONE YEAR FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE, RIGHT? SO THIS COULD BE POSSIBLY A BELT AND SUSPENDERS APPROACH WHERE EVEN THOUGH THAT MAY APPLY, THEN THE BOARD CAN JUST TAKE FORMAL ACTION. THAT WAY A NOTICE CAN BE SENT OUT. SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT MAYBE AS A BOARD, WE MAKE A MOTION THAT SIMPLY STATES BASED ON ARTICLE ONE, 1.2, AND THE ONE YEAR TERM. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, OUR GOOD FAITH EFFORTS TO MAKE CONTACT HAVE RECEIVED NO RESPONSE. WE THEREFORE MAKE A MOTION TO TERMINATE BOTH CONTRACTS, AND I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION A MOTION SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? IT WAS SIGNED BY CHRIS CROW AND JOHN BECKMEYER. SO IT COULD HAVE JUST FALLEN THROUGH THE CRACK. YEAH. BUT THE BUILDING'S HERE RIGHT. YEAH. WELL I THINK IT'S OLD JIM'S BIG AND TALL BUILDING. THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY NEVER DID ANYTHING WITH IT. I THINK IT WAS A FOR SALE SIGN IN FRONT AGAIN. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM, TEAM REFURB. SO DO WE. WHO TAKE WHO SENDS THE LETTER, MR. PARKER. WELL, WHOEVER THE CONTACT IS, TYPICALLY IT WOULD COME FROM I DON'T KNOW WHO HOW THE BOARD HAS DONE CONTACTS DOESN'T NECESSARILY COME FROM LEGAL. USUALLY WHOEVER THE COMMUNICATION OR CONTACT IS. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE HAS BEEN. I GUESS THIS MAY PREEXIST EVERYONE ELSE. SO I GUESS WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. WE'LL SEND A LETTER. I'M THINKING Y'ALL PREPARE THE LETTER SO IT'S LEGAL HERE AND YOU CAN PUT ANYBODY'S NAME. YOU PUT MY NAME ON IT IF YOU WANT TO, AND I'LL SIGN IT, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE ON THE BOARD. AND THEN AS LONG AS YOU AS LONG AS YOU GOT ME COVERED LEGALLY. I'M GOOD. YEAH. WE'LL JUST WE'LL DO IT THAT WAY. IS THIS SOMETHING YOU DO LIKE CERTIFIED MAIL TO SEE IF ANYBODY SIGNS FOR IT TO NOTICE LETTERS? YEAH. GOOD LUCK ON DETERMINING THE ADDRESS. IT LOOKS LIKE I JUST ENDED THE ONE [10. Consider proposed changes and revisions to the Performance Agreement between the ODC and Team Refurb Property, LLC, and Team Refurb and Support LLC] HERE. NO LAST KNOWN ADDRESS. OKAY. TEAM REFURB. YEAH. YOU'RE FINE. PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT IN YOUR PACKET. WITH REGARDS. AS YOU KNOW I THINK NOW IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS SINCE YOU APPROVED A AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT FOR TEAM REFURB. THEY'RE THEY'RE DOING A NEW LOCATION. THEY'RE MOVING FROM AN EXISTING FACILITY FOR A VERY GOOD REASON BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE GROWING VERY, VERY MUCH A GROWING COMPANY. AND, AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO ADD A LOT OF JOBS. THEY WANTED SOME FURTHER CLARIFICATION AND DEFINITION WITH REGARDS. THEY HAD SENT THEIR AGREEMENT BACK WITH SOME RED LINES, I BELIEVE, ON. IN THEIR AGREEMENT ON PAGE THREE OF 15, YOU WILL FIND UNDER SECTION FOUR C JOB CREATION AND RETENTION UNDER FOUR C ONE. THEY HAD SOME THEY HAD SOME PROPOSALS THERE WITH RED LINE. AND THEN ON PAGE FOUR OF 15 IT CONTINUES ON AND THEN GOES INTO SECTION FOUR C TWO. AND SO I INVITED TO TO WHO CAN ASK FOR EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AS FAR AS CLARIFICATION ON THE JOBS AND THOSE QUESTIONS. RICHARD WAGNER IS HERE FROM TEAM REFURB, AND HE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I THINK HE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND, AND READ WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR. AND THEN HE CAN DISCUSS IT WITH YOU IF YOU WANT TO COME UP. RICHARD. THANK YOU. SURE. THANK YOU TOM. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. I JUST PRINTED OFF ONE COPY. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE A SIMILAR COPY IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT IN THE ALREADY AGREED TO PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT, THERE'S JUST WE HAVE A QUOTES AS WORKING IN ECTOR COUNTY. AND I JUST WANTED TO MAYBE FURTHER DEFINE THAT FOR BOTH OF OUR BENEFITS AND MY SUGGESTED RED LINE THAT I SENT IN INITIALLY. I'LL READ IT TO YOU GUYS, IS WORKING IN ECTOR COUNTY AND EMPLOYEES FULL TIME EQUIVALENT EMPLOYMENT POSITION IS DEEMED TO BE WORKING IN ECTOR COUNTY. IF THE EMPLOYEE IS PRIMARILY DISPATCHED FROM ADMINISTRATIVE ADMINISTRATIVELY ASSIGNED TO OR REGULAR REPORTS TO A DEVELOPER FACILITY LOCATED IN ECTOR COUNTY AND THE EMPLOYEES HOME IN TERMINAL AND ASSIGNED EQUIPMENT ARE BASED AT SUCH FACILITY, REGARDLESS OF THE EMPLOYEE'S PHYSICAL WORK LOCATION ON ANY GIVEN DAY, END QUOTE. RATIONALE FOR THAT REQUEST IS WE HAVE WE HAVE A LARGE SHOP OFF OF GOLDER RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE RELEASING. WE HAVE A PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT OFF OF 338, ALSO ABOUT FIVE MINUTES FROM OUR CURRENT FACILITY THAT WE'RE EXPECTED TO CLOSE ON SEPTEMBER 30TH. ALL PART OF KIND OF THE PLAN HERE FOR THE PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT. BUT WE DO FROM TIME TO TIME HAVE FOLKS SHOW UP TO WORK IN ODESSA. THEY GET IN A TRUCK AND THEY MIGHT DRIVE SOMEWHERE, THEY MIGHT DRIVE TO MIDLAND, THEY MIGHT DRIVE TO PECOS. HEAVEN FORBID THEY DRIVE SOMEWHERE IN NEW MEXICO. BUT THAT DOES HAPPEN FROM TIME TO TIME. SO JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, DURING ANY SORT OF COMPLIANCE AUDIT THAT WE HAVE SOME LANGUAGE THAT CAPTURES WHAT WORKING IN ECTOR COUNTY CONSISTS OF. SO THAT WAS MY SUGGESTION, AND I'M OPEN TO ANY FEEDBACK THERE, BUT JUST WANTED [00:45:04] TO TRY TO QUALIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. I THINK I THINK IT'S I THINK THAT WORKS FINE. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THIS IS YOUR ONLY LOCATION. CORRECT. THE TWO LOCATIONS HERE ARE WELL, WE HAVE ONE. AND THEN WHEN WE BUY THE OTHER ONE, WE'LL EXIT OUR LEASE AND MOVE. SO WE'LL MAINTAIN JUST A SINGLE LOCATION. I WAS I WAS CURIOUS BECAUSE THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO MEET THEM ALL BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2026. AND THAT'S ONLY IN A FEW MONTHS. DO YOU HAVE. YES, MA'AM. SO WE'VE BEEN IT'S A $5 MILLION CAPEX REQUIREMENT. IF WE CLOSE ON SEPTEMBER 30TH, WHICH IS THE PLAN. OKAY, THAT'S IT'S 4.55 IS THE CONTRACT AMOUNT, BUT WE'LL PUT A LITTLE OVER A MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. SO THAT MEANS THE EXCUSE ME, THAT MEANS THE 5 MILLION HURDLE. AND FROM AN EMPLOYMENT STANDPOINT, IT'S IT'S 71 TOTAL EMPLOYEES. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY AT 72 EMPLOYEES AS OF TODAY. WE SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION A YEAR AGO WHEN WE HAD 30 FEWER EMPLOYEES. AND WE'VE BEEN GROWING THIS WHOLE TIME. THAT'S WHAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, IS IF THERE'S ALSO A PAYROLL REQUIREMENT AS WELL, FOR A DOLLAR AMOUNT STANDPOINT THAT WE'RE MATERIALLY ABOVE. SO IF WE CLOSE ON THE FACILITY SEPTEMBER 30TH, WE'RE KIND OF ALREADY WE'VE CHECKED A LOT, A LOT OF THE BOXES. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT THAT'S IT TAKING A WHILE. IT WASN'T PUTTING YOU IN A BIND ON DECEMBER 31ST. WE'VE BEEN LEANING INTO THIS AND WITH TOM'S HELP, ABLE TO GET EVERYTHING APPROVED. SO THE TIMING ACTUALLY WORKS OUT REALLY WELL FOR FOR TEAM REFURB. SO THIS WOULD ALL HAPPEN BY DECEMBER 31ST. THEN WE WOULD HAVE YOUR FIRST AUDIT THAT YOU'VE COMPLIED. AND THEN YOU WOULD GET YOUR FIRST PAYMENT WHICH IS THE THE MILLION FOR 40. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT. OKAY. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THESE CHANGES. I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? SOMETHING TO ADD IS ACCEPT THE CHANGES AND APPROVE THE PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT. IF YOU CAN CLARIFY IN YOUR MOTION. OKAY. DO I NEED TO SAY THAT OR IS SHE JUST CHANGING IT? YEAH, YOU CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND RESTATE THAT. OKAY. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE CHANGES AS PRESENTED AND APPROVE THE PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT. IS THAT GOOD? THAT'S GOOD. SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR? ANYONE OPPOSED? ABSTAIN. YOU ABSTAIN. YEAH. TIM ABSTAINS. SO THANK YOU SIR. IT'S A PLEASURE DOING BUSINESS. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU GUYS. OKAY. WHAT'S NEXT. THANK THING IN THERE. THANK YOU. IT'S THE. THAT'S STILL THAT ONE. YEAH. A BUNCH OF THESE PAGES WERE STILL THAT I THINK IT WAS THE PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PAPER LAW FIRM IS ITEM NUMBER [11. Discuss and consider a Request for Variance from the Odessa Building Improvement District Infrastructure and Facade Grants Program received by the Leyva Law Firm, PLLC, 509 N. Grant Avenue] 11. IS THAT CORRECT. I FOUND IT, YES. IT'S TOM OR GEORGE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS ONE. YEAH. I'LL GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT THIS ONE. THIS IS ONE AS YOU KNOW, WE WE KIND OF CAME TO YOU A WHILE BACK HAT IN HAND AND MENTIONED THAT, THAT WE HAD SOME GRANT APPLICATIONS ON THE DOWNTOWN AND FACADE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT SIDE THAT, THAT WE'RE IN A FORMER EMPLOYEES DESK. AND, AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM. AND, AND IT WAS, IT WAS VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE ONE AFTERNOON I STARTED GETTING AN EMAIL ABOUT THESE WERE SUBMITTALS FROM THE FROM THE LAW FIRM. AND DIANE WAS HERE, BY THE WAY, RAISE YOUR HAND, DAN, IF YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS. WHEN WE GET INTO THE VARIANCE, YOU CAN COME UP, I'M SURE, AND ANSWER THEM. BUT SHE WAS, SHE WAS ACTUALLY WHICH A LOT OF THEM, WE HAVE TO KIND OF DRAG IT OUT OF THEM. WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY'RE REQUIREMENTS. BUT SHE ACTUALLY READ THROUGH EVERYTHING AND SHE WAS SENDING US COPIES OF RECEIPTS AND W-9 AND THIS AND THAT. AND SO IN MY MIND, I'M THINKING, OKAY, WELL, SHE STARTED SENDING THEM TO ME AND, YOU KNOW, WE PASSED HER GRANT STUFF. WELL, I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT. I THOUGHT THE LABOR LAW FIRM AND I COULDN'T REMEMBER THEM. AND SO I WENT BACK IN THE MINUTES AND I WENT BACK FOR QUITE A WHILE. AND THEN I REALIZED THEY'D NEVER ACTUALLY GONE BEFORE. ODC IN THE GRANT WASN'T APPROVED. AND SO WE WENT AHEAD WHEN, WHEN WE FOUND IT AND PUT IT IN FRONT OF COMPLIANCE AND, AND THEY APPROVED IT AND MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO Y'ALL. WELL, THEN Y'ALL APPROVED IT. BUT IT PER YOUR POLICY, THE TIMING WAS OFF FROM WHEN THE APPLICATION WAS MADE AND THE WORK STARTED. AND SO I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS AT NO FAULT OF HERS. YOU KNOW, THAT WAS WE, WE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN, WE SHOULD HAVE GONE BACK. AND THAT'S ON ME. WE SHOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH [00:50:01] THE DESK AND FOUND THESE THINGS EARLIER AND TAKEN CARE OF THEM, WHICH WE WHICH WE'RE DOING NOW. I THINK THIS IS THE SECOND TO LAST ONE THAT Y'ALL HAVE TO DEAL WITH. BUT THE FORTUNATE THING ABOUT IT, WHEN WHEN Y'ALL ASKED ABOUT IT AND YOU WANTED TO HELP YOU LOOK TO THE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR AN OPTION, AND HE BROUGHT UP THE VARIANCE. AND SO THIS IS THE FIRST ONE. THE THE CITY HAS A POLICY FOR REQUESTING A VARIANCE. AND SO YOU'RE FINDING EXHIBIT A AT THE BACK OF HER PACKET, A LETTER FROM HER MAKING THAT REQUEST. AND LIKE I SAID, THIS IS REALLY THIS IS REALLY ON US ON, ON, ON ME. BUT SHE IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE AND, AND CAN ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING HER PROJECT THAT YOU MAY HAVE, BUT SHE IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE BECAUSE THE APPLICATION, THE TIMING WAS OFF WITH REGARDS TO THE ACTUAL WORK BEING DONE. BUT, YOU KNOW, UNLIKE A LOT OF THESE WHERE WE HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND GET INFORMATION AND GET BEFORE AND AFTER PICTURES AND GET THE W-9 AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SHE WAS VERY FORTHCOMING. AND ANYTIME I HAD A QUESTION OR SOMETHING, SHE, SHE WAS VERY QUICK TO RESPOND AND PROVIDE ANSWERS AND DETAILS. SO HOW MUCH WHAT'S THE GRANT AMOUNT AGAIN? 44 YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY IT'S IN THE AGREEMENT. 42 THE ORIGINAL WAS, LET'S SEE, ONE IS 44,588. 44 YEAH. AND THEN ANOTHER ONE I SEE. 56. THERE'S A FACADE AND AND THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT GRANTS. ISN'T THAT RIGHT? I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT IT. IF YOU LOOK AT HER. GOING BACK TO THE FRONT. MR. PARKER, DID WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THOSE CHANGES ALREADY TO OUR THAT ARE IN OUR PACKAGE TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE. I KNOW YOU MADE YOU MADE CHANGES FOR US. HAVE WE APPROVED THOSE? WHICH CHANGES ARE YOU REFERRING TO? THE VARIANCE? I BELIEVE THE BOARDS HAVE ADOPTED THE VARIANCE, I THINK I THINK WE HAVE TWO. I THINK THAT WAS TWO MEETINGS AGO. YES. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE. IT'S JUST THE ONLY THING THE BOARD NEEDS TO DO IS IT'S PURELY UP TO THE BOARD. IT'S ALL DISCRETIONARY ON HOW THE BOARD WANTS TO VOTE AND GRANT THE VARIANCE. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE IN THIS RESOLUTION I DON'T SEE THEM. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG A NUMBER, MR. PARKER. BUT IF YOU APPROVE THE VARIANCE THEN THE GRANT YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED IS WHAT QUALIFIES. AND EVERYTHING'S GOOD. IF YOU DON'T APPROVE THE VARIANCE PER THE TIMING POLICY, THEN IT WOULDN'T. I'M UNDERSTANDING THE ISSUE WAS MAYBE THE THE THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE THE GRANT APPLICATION WAS APPROVED. A GOOD PORTION OF IT. YES. OKAY. SO YEAH, IT'S EXACTLY A REPEAT OF MEMBERS OF THE BOARD IS EXACTLY REPEAT OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED BEFORE THE THE APPLICATION. IF THE BOARD FINDS THAT THE. THIS APPLICATION WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED. AND THE ONLY REASON IT DIDN'T GET APPROVED IS BECAUSE IT WAS LOST IN A DESK SOMEWHERE. AND OTHER THAN THAT, IT WOULD HAVE PROCEEDED JUST THE SAME AS ANY OTHER APPLICATION. THAT'S KIND OF THE INTENT OF THE VARIANCE PROCEDURES. IT'S MORE OF A TECHNICAL MINISTERIAL DEFECT IN THE TIMING. OTHER THAN THAT, THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY IS HERE IS HAD THIS CAME BEFORE THE BOARD THREE MONTHS AGO, THE BOARD WOULD HAVE HAD NO ISSUES ADDRESSING THIS APPLICATION. SO THIS VARIANCE PROCEDURE SIMPLY GIVES THE BOARD HERE THE ABILITY TO, BECAUSE OUR REGULATIONS STATED WORK PERFORMED BEFORE THE GRANT APPLICATIONS APPROVED CANNOT QUALIFY. THIS ALLOWS THE BOARD TO LIFT THAT REQUIREMENT. SO I GUESS I. I NEED YOU TO EXPLAIN THIS SPREADSHEET BECAUSE THAT ONE. I'M GOING TO LET GEORGE BECAUSE HE HE DID IT. YEAH. THERE'S ONE IN INCLUDING ELECTRICAL WORK AND ONE NOT AND TWO DIFFERENT APPLICANT REQUESTS HERE. YEAH. 42 BUT AND I APOLOGIZE I DIDN'T BRING THE ACTUAL APPROVED AGREEMENT. I THOUGHT IT WAS IN MY IN MY NOTES, BUT I'M NOT FINDING IT UNLESS IT'S. WELL, I WAS JUST, I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE ONE THE GRANT THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS. ONE'S 42, 672 AND ONE'S 33, 441 AND THEN BUT THAT IS AT 75%. AND THEN THE LETTER SAYS 44. WELL, ON THE FRONT IN THE FIRST PART, THE REQUEST. THE 100% OF ALLOWABLE GRANT FUNDS, THE GRANT FUND REQUEST WAS 113 OR 89. SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. IT JUST LOOKS LIKE ONE HAS HOW MUCH MONEY THEY WANT. THE. THE REASONING BEHIND THAT WAS THERE WAS TWO ACTUAL WORKSHEETS PRESENTED BEFORE THE COMPLIANCE COMMITTEE. ONE WAS THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATES THAT WERE THAT WERE GIVEN TO US ON THE APPLICATION. [00:55:01] AND BECAUSE IT WAS LEFT IN THE DESK, WE THEN UPDATED IT TO THE NEW ESTIMATES THAT WERE GIVEN TO US AFTER THE ONE WHICH WAS THE NEW ONE. THAT WOULD BE THE 128,000 TOTAL PROJECT. THE TOTAL PROJECT 128199. SO YOU'RE GOING TO $56,000. THAT WOULD BE WHAT THEY WOULD QUALIFY FOR. IS THAT WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO GIVE THEM? THAT WAS WHAT COMPLIANCE. THAT'S WHAT THE WORK FOR THE WORKSHEET. WHEN YOU PUT THE NUMBERS IN, THAT'S WHAT CAME OUT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE POLICY AND IT SAYS 44. WELL, SO WHAT'S THE 44 UP HERE? 44 I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S THE ORIGINAL FROM THE ORIGINAL NUMBERS. SO THE NUMBERS WERE UPDATED LATER. OKAY. I GUESS IT JUST WASN'T CHANGED. THE TOTAL FROM 44 TO 5656. I GUESS THE, THE ORIGINAL LETTER WASN'T UPDATED. AND IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT WAS UPDATED WAS THE ELECTRICITY IS CURRENTLY 100 AMPS AND 200 IS NOW REQUIRED TO MEET CITY CODE. AND THAT WAS THE 22,000 115 AND THEN THE ASBESTOS SURVEY. THOSE ARE THE TWO ADDED NUMBERS THAT BRING THE TOTAL TO 128199. YEAH. AND THEN ON TIER ONE, 100% OF ALLOWABLE. SO NOW THE FINAL NUMBER IN FRONT OF US TODAY IS 56,008 9605. CORRECT. AND THAT AND THAT'S THE FULL THAT'S NO PENALTY FOR BEING LATE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT SHE'S ASKING. CORRECT. AND YOU DON'T HAVE A A VARYING RATE FOR BEING LATE. I MEAN, IF IT'S TOO LATE BEFORE IT DIDN'T QUALIFY, IF IT'S TOO LATE NOW, NOW WE JUST HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPROVE IT. I GOT YOU, SO I NEED A MOTION THAT'S THAT APPROVES THE VARIANCE SO WE CAN FUND THEM. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. WE GRANT A VARIANCE TO THE LAW FIRM. LABOR LAW FIRM SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED. SO WE DO THAT LEGALLY. ARE WE GOOD. DO WE NEED TO SAY SCRIVENER'S ERROR OR CORRECT. OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE TO APPROVE THIS NUMBER AGAIN BECAUSE THE NUMBER WAS IN THE ORIGINAL PACKAGE, THE NUMBER WAS THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL PACKAGE. ALL WE'RE DOING NOW YOU'RE JUST QUALIFYING IT WITH THE VARIANCE. OKAY. GOTCHA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR HAVING PATIENCE WITH US ON THIS DEAL, MISS LEYVA. GLAD YOU'RE DOWNTOWN. WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE DOWNTOWN. AND HOPEFULLY WE DON'T PUT MANY THINGS IN THAT MANY THINGS. DON'T GET LOST IN A DESK. WE APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. HONESTLY, SHE WAS SO KIND TO ME. AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOTHING. WELL, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. [12. Discuss proposed changes and revisions to the Odessa Building Improvement District Infrastructure and Façade Grants Program guidelines] OKAY. ITEM 12, DOWNTOWN GRANT GUIDELINES. THAT'S THAT VARIANCE THING. NO, NO, NO, THIS IS THIS IS THIS IS DIFFERENT. I THINK THIS IS. TOM. WHAT IS THIS? YOU SHOULD NEVER SIT DOWN. HEY, PICK A SEAT ON THE FRONT ROW. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DEAL WE JUST ALREADY DID ON THE VARIANCE? THESE ARE GENERAL QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP THROUGH A VARIETY OF. THROUGH DISCUSSIONS WITH COMPLIANCE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE DISCUSSION WE HAD THE OTHER DAY ABOUT DO WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY? ARE WE DOING THESE? IS THAT PART OF THE QUESTION? IT'S NOT ONE OF THESE QUESTIONS HERE TODAY THAT COULD BE A LATER ONE, BECAUSE I DID FORGET ONE QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO ROOFING. WHAT THIS IS, IS WHAT COUNTS AND DOESN'T COUNT. PER THE AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE WE INHERITED THE DOWNTOWN GRANT FACADE PROGRAM FROM DOWNTOWN ODESSA, INC. PROBABLY ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO NOW. AND THEY OPERATED, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE, I GUESS, A DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY. AND THEY OPERATED MORE HAND IN HAND WITH WITH PERMITTING GUIDELINES AND THE BUILDING CODES THAT THEY USE. AND I CAN'T THINK OF THE THE CODE SOUTHERN WHATEVER CODE THAT THAT THEY HAVE ADOPTED AND UTILIZED FOR THEIR BUILDING PROJECTS. WELL, SOME QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP WITH REGARDS TO THAT IS, LET'S SEE, I'LL JUST HAVE TO READ IT. BRIEF AGENDA ITEM DESCRIPTION, A DISCUSSION REGARDING BUILDING CODE. AND ODC HAS SUPPORTED INSTALLING REPLACING HEAT THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT PROGRAM, BUT NOT THE INSTALLATION OF AC AS IT IS NOT REQUIRED IN THE CODE. THIS DATES BACK TO WHEN THE PROGRAM WAS UNDER DOI OR BEFORE. IF THE ODC BOARD CHOOSES TO CONSIDER A POLICY APPLICATION CHANGE REGARDING THE INSTALLATION OF AC, COULD THEY DO SO EVEN IF IT'S NOT A CODE REQUIREMENT OF THE CITY? RIGHT NOW, MOST GRANTS COME IN LISTING HVAC AS ONE COST WITH THE INCLUSION OF HEAT AND COOLING, THE COMPLIANCE COMMITTEE USUALLY RECOMMENDS SUPPORTING THE COST OF OF THAT PARTICULAR WORK [01:00:04] BEING DONE AT 50%. BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THE CODE, HEAT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR LIKE RESTAURANTS, DOWNTOWN BUILDINGS. AIR COOLING IS NOT. AND SO WE'RE ASKING THAT A LOT. AND SO I, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE'RE CAPABLE OF REQUESTING A CHANGE OR AT LEAST PUTTING IN FRONT OF YOU. I MEAN, IF YOU SAY, NO, I'M NOT HERE TO, TO THROW MYSELF ON THE SWORD FOR THAT, BUT WE ARE ASKED IT AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WELL, THE THE BOARD TOOK IT UP AND, AND HERE'S WHAT THEIR CONCLUSION WAS. WELL, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET MUCH BUSINESS IF THEY DON'T HAVE AIR CONDITIONING IN THE SUMMER. WELL, I DID, I DID FIND IT A LITTLE INTERESTING THAT IN ODESSA YOU WOULDN'T REQUIRE A RESTAURANT TO, TO HAVE AIR CONDITIONING. BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS BEFORE GLOBAL WARMING. SO YOU SAY AIR CONDITIONING IS OKAY, THEN THE COMPLIANCE COMMITTEE IS GOING TO SAY THEY'LL JUST PUT HVAC IS ALL ONE LINE ITEM AND STILL DO THE. THEY'LL STILL DO THEIR 50. YOU CAN FACTOR THAT COST IN. WHEN WE DO THE WORKSHEET, THE ENTIRE HVAC COST. AND I'M ASSUMING IF Y'ALL APPROVE THAT, THEN IT'S OKAY TO DO THAT. AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE. IT WAS ITEM B, THERE IS NO MENTION OF NON-PROFITS IN THE FACADE GRANT, BUT NON-PROFITS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO APPLY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT. CAN THE ODC BOARD AND I MISS WORDED THAT CAN'T CONSIDER CAN THEY CONSIDER THIS THROUGH A CHANGE IN THE POLICY APPLICATION IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO SO? WE HAVE HAD SOME SOME NON-PROFITS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE INFORMED THEM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THAT ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE, YOU CAN'T GET GRANT MONEY FOR DOWNTOWN PROJECT. AND MY THINKING IS, YOU KNOW, ONE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THINKING WAS BEHIND THAT, BUT TWO, IF IT'S GOING TO BE A NONPROFIT THAT'S GOING TO COME IN AND MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT TO A DOWNTOWN BUILDING AND ADD TRAFFIC AND, AND ACTIVITY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO CONSIDER IT, THAT'S UP TO Y'ALL. BUT, BUT I'M PUTTING IT IN FRONT OF YOU BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A QUESTION. WELL, I WASN'T ON IT, BUT I'M GUESSING THE REASON BECAUSE NON-PROFITS DON'T PAY TAXES, I GUESS THEY WILL GIVE MONEY TO ENTITIES THAT ARE COME IN AND BRING AND BRING UP THE TAX BASE IS WHAT I'M GUESSING IS THE REASON IT WAS IN HERE. I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. I COULDN'T TELL YOU IT WAS DONE LONG BEFORE ME. YEAH. THE INFRASTRUCTURE SAYS SPECIFICALLY THAT NON-PROFITS AREN'T. YEP. AND THERE'S NO MENTION OF NON-PROFITS IN THE FACADE. SO IT'S THE FACADE. AND LIKE I SAID, IF Y'ALL CHOOSE TO, TO KEEP IT AS IS, IT'S EASY FOR ME TO SAY, WELL, THE BOARD CONSIDERED IT. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE COULD EVEN, YOU KNOW, TELL THEM THAT THAT THE CONSIDERATION WAS SINCE YOU'RE NOT PAYING TAXES. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, THE LARGER GRANT, WHICH WOULD BE THE INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO, WE WERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET THOSE APPLICATIONS, WE'RE NOW CONSIDERING, I'M ALMOST INCLINED TO BE OKAY WITH NON-PROFITS APPLYING FOR A FACADE GRANT BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY THE GRANT IS NOT REALLY DRIVEN TOWARDS THE BUSINESS CHURN. IT'S THE OVERALL ESTHETICS OF THE DOWNTOWN. IT WAS GOING TO MAKE THE ENVIRONMENT BETTER. RIGHT. I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL HAS INSTRUCTED US THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO ON THOSE THINGS. YES, I BELIEVE SO, YEAH. AND THEN ON THE FINAL ONE, PROVIDE CLARIFICATION ON THE ONE BUILDING WITH MULTIPLE ADDRESSES AND MULTIPLE METERS QUESTION, AS IF YOU CAN TREAT EACH ADDRESS SEPARATELY IN ONE BUILDING. THIS CAME TO US RECENTLY FROM A BUILDING OWNER. SHE HAS ONE BUILDING. THE BUILDING HAS THREE DIFFERENT ADDRESSES. SO THEY'RE LIKE SUITES. AND THEN IT HAS THREE DIFFERENT ELECTRICAL METERS AND THREE DIFFERENT WATER METERS. AND SO SHE WANTED TO KNOW BECAUSE SHE WAS GOING TO TAKE ONE SUITE AND ACTUALLY PUT HER OFFICE IN IT. SHE WANTED TO KNOW WHY COULDN'T SHE GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD, DO A GRANT FOR THAT, AND STILL BE ABLE, DEPENDING ON WHAT'S BEING PUT IN THE OTHER TWO SUITES? YOU KNOW, ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE, YOU KNOW, WHY COULDN'T YOU LOOK AT GRANTS FOR THOSE AT A LATER PERIOD? BUT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IT'S ONE, IT'S IS IT ONE ADDRESS? IT'S ONE BUILDING, THREE ADDRESSES. THAT'S RIGHT. SO RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS IN THE IN THE POLICY, ONE BUILDING, ONE TIME PERIOD. SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE NOTHING REALLY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED OR CHANGED IF IT JUST SAYS ONE BUILDING CURRENTLY AND WE HAVEN'T HAVE ONE BUILDING WITH MULTIPLE ADDRESSES, THE MULTIPLE ADDRESSES ARE NOT AN ISSUE. IF IT'S STILL ONE BUILDING, ONE BUILDING. WELL, AND I WANTED TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOUR WE WANTED CLARIFICATION ON OUR END BECAUSE SHE'D LIKE TO DO THREE GRANTS, THREE GRANTS, THREE GRANTS, ONE BUILDING. SHE WANTS TO DO ONE ON EVERY ADDRESS BUT ONE BUILDING, BUT SHE WANTS TO START IT WITH HER OFFICE. AND SO BUT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN ONLY DO A GRANT PER BUILDING, NOT PER ADDRESS. SO WHOEVER BOUGHT [01:05:03] THE OLD TEXAS COMMERCE BUILDING, THEY COULDN'T COME IN AND ASK FOR GRANTS FOR IF THEY WANTED. WELL, IT'S PROBABLY ONE ADDRESS EACH FLOOR. YOU GOT DIFFERENT OFFICES IN THERE. BUT I THINK WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, THESE ARE ACTUAL STREET ADDRESS WITH THE DIFFERENT NUMBER 104, NOT SUITE NUMBERS, I THINK. YEAH, I THINK IT'S LIKE FOURTH STREET AND IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, 503 FOURTH 5054507 ON THE TAX. THAT'S LIKE AN EXAMPLE ON THE TAX ROLLS IS AN INDIVIDUAL LOTS. DO YOU KNOW TO WHERE IS IT LIKE LOTS ONE TWO AND THREE. THEREFORE IT HAS THREE DIFFERENT ADDRESSES OR IS IT ALL ON LOT ONE. I DID NOT CHECK THAT. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. COUPLE ADDRESSES IN MULTIPLE METERS I WOULD THINK. I WOULD THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THREE DIFFERENT LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS IS WHAT I'M HEADED TOWARDS. YOU CAN PUT SIX METERS ON ONE LOCATION. I'VE SEEN IT IN AN RV PARK. SO THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY. YEAH. BUT I'M THINKING THAT IT'S WITH THREE ADDRESSES. IT'S POSSIBLY GOING TO BE THREE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS. AND ON THAT PARTICULAR QUESTION, IF Y'ALL WANTED TO TABLE THAT, AND I COULD GET AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION FOR YOU. YEAH, YEAH, I'D BE HAPPY TO. THE NATURE OF THE ONE BUILDING, I'D SAY THAT IMPLIES ONE FACADE, WHICH IMPLIES ONE GRANT. SO IT'S KIND OF, WELL, JUST THAT MAYBE YOU COULD LOOK AT IT THAT WAY. THE FACADE IS ONE BUILDING AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS PER ADDRESS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WELL, YOU COULD NAME THE BUILDING LIKE, BUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING NOT BEEN AROUND WHEN ALL THIS WAS DEVELOPED, SOMETIMES WE'LL GET QUESTIONS AND WE JUST DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY BEHIND WHERE THE ANSWER CAME FROM. THE INTENT OF THE YEAH. POLICY. YEAH. AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF UNDERNEATH THERE TO WHERE YOU CAN GET A GRANT HERE OR YOU GET GRANT, GRANT, GRANT. WELL, SHE OWNS IT ALL YOU COULD. I COULD SEE US DOING THREE GRANTS FOR HER AS SHE BUILDS OUT THE BUILDING. I DON'T KNOW. WELL, AND I THINK PART OF IT IS I THINK HER CONCERN WAS A LITTLE MORE ON THE ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BRINGING EACH SUITE UP TO CODE. OH, YEAH. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE KEY IS SWEET. I MEAN, IS IT GOING TO BE BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL, YOU GET INTO A CONDO SITUATION THAT COULD CREATE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ABUSED IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL. I JUST THINK THAT IF IT'S THREE ADDRESSES, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS ARE ACCORDINGLY. AND OWNERSHIP IS FINE. BUT I THINK AT THAT POINT IN TIME WE COULD ALL MAKE A LITTLE BIT BETTER DECISION ON HOW IT WOULD WORK, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND SHE WANTS TO RENT IT ALL, BUT IT COULD BE THAT IT'S ALL ONE DEAL, SHOULD BE ON ONE TAX RECORD AND ONE FACADE AND ONE FACADE. THAT'S WHAT I'M. ONE FACADE, ONE GRANT. YEAH. ONE TAX BILL FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF. THAT'S WHAT I THINK. YEAH, I CAN FIND THAT OUT ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE BIG MONEY. YEAH. OH YEAH. YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK THE SPECIFICS OF HOW THE BUILDING IS LAID OUT IS GOING TO DETERMINE, YEAH, HOW WE TABLE THAT ONE, I GUESS. YEAH, I'LL TABLE THAT. I I'M THE BUILDING SPECS AND THE HOW IT'S PLATTED ALL THAT. I'LL GET THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. DOES THE BOARD WISH FOR LEGAL TO PROVIDE SOME RED LINE PROPOSED CHANGES FOR THE BOARD TO LOOK AT? IN TERMS OF ANSWERING THE OTHER QUESTIONS. I JUST LOOK LIKE CLARIFICATIONS ON SOME VAGUE WORDING THAT MAY NEED TO BE CLARIFIED. BUT JUST BECAUSE OF AGE AND HOW OLD THOSE REGULATIONS ARE, WELL, AND I WASN'T, I WANTED TO GO BACK TO NUMBER ONE OR A, I APOLOGIZE IF THIS WAS CLARIFIED AND I JUST MISSED IT, BUT COMPLIANCE COMMITTEE USUALLY RECOMMENDS SUPPORTING THE COST OF 50% BECAUSE COOLING IS NOT INCLUDED. WHY WOULDN'T IT STILL. WHY IS THERE A CHANGE IN PERCENTAGE IF SOMETHING'S MISSING? I THINK NO, I SAID IT WOULD JUST BE THE COST. NORMALLY THE COST NORMALLY THE. WHEN THEY SUBMIT A PROPOSAL, HVAC, HEATING AND AIR IS ALL ONE PRICE. AND SO WHAT THEY LOOK AT IS OKAY, WHAT WHAT IS HALF OF THAT? BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE AMOUNT OF THE REQUEST STRUCTURE GRANTS ARE ONLY FOR, TO BRING IT UP TO CODE CORRECT OR NOT CORRECT. AND THE CODE. SO THEY'RE SAYING WHAT AIR CONDITIONING IS NOT IN THE CODE. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR THAT. THAT'S ON YOU. RIGHT. OKAY. AND I'VE HAD PEOPLE LAUGH. ALL RIGHT. WHEN YOU BROUGHT IT UP EARLIER ABOUT AIR CONDITIONING AND ODESSA. I MEAN, TWO WEEKS AGO, I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH THE PERSON TRYING TO BUY DOWNTOWN BUILDING, AND HE JUST SAID, I FIND IT HILARIOUS THAT Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT AIR CONDITIONING. I KNOW, AND I SAID, WELL, WE'RE CHECK ON IT. AND YOU TALK ABOUT ELECTRICITY. I HAVE A CUSTOMER WHO BOUGHT AN EXISTING BUILDING, AND IT HAD BEEN SHUT DOWN FOR A WHILE. AND SO FOR HIM TO OPEN IT, HE THOUGHT HE COULD JUST GO BACK IN THERE AND TURN IT ON AND, AND TAKE OVER THE DEAL AND START. WELL, HE HAS TO GET ALL NEW ELECTRIC TO MEET THE NEW [01:10:03] CODE THAT THE BUILDING NEVER MET. SO IT'S GOING TO COST HIM A LOT OF MONEY TO GET THIS BUILDING UP AND RUNNING THAT HE THOUGHT HE WAS JUST GOING TO TAKE OVER A FRANCHISE TO MEET THE NEW CODE. SO, SO WE'VE NEVER DONE AIR CONDITIONING? NO, SIR. I WOULD BE I WOULD BE FINE TO MAKE HVAC INCLUDE HEATING, HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING. I MEAN, I THINK I THINK IT'S A NECESSITY TO BRING EVERYTHING UP IF I AND IF I MAY, BOARD, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN THE LAW. SO I DON'T KNOW WHICH VERSION OF THE CODE THAT'S BEING WORKED ON. SO IT MAY VERY WELL BE WORTH UPDATING THAT BECAUSE THERE'S THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MECHANICAL CODE, FOR EXAMPLE, BROUGHT IN SOME ADDITIONAL AIR FILTRATION REQUIREMENTS. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT VERSION OF THE CODE, BUT THEY CHANGE QUITE OFTEN. SO THAT MAY NOT THAT MAY HAVE BEEN ACCURATE AT ONE TIME, BUT I'M NOT SO SURE IT'S ACCURATE ANYMORE. YEAH. NO IT'S RIGHT. YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T EVEN ADD ON, YOU CAN'T ADD ON A ROOM TO YOUR HOUSE WITHOUT HAVING A HEAT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AIR CONDITIONING, BUT IT HAS TO, IT HAS TO HAVE HEAT FROM THE SAME STRUCTURE. BUT DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SAY, BUT FOR US, IT'S OKAY, I THINK SO. WELL, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT TO TO Y'ALL'S ATTENTION AND LITERALLY MEAN HVAC. THE BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY BECAUSE REMEMBER, THE BOARD'S THE BOARD'S FOCUS IS ON PROMOTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THAT THOSE TWO THINGS, THOSE CODE ISSUES AND PROMOTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T ALWAYS END UP BEING THE SAME CONCLUSION, YOU KNOW, BEING REACHED JUST BECAUSE CODE SO. AND ALSO, I'M NOT 100% CERTAIN THAT THAT'S NOT BEEN SOME CHANGES IN THE LAW ON SOME OF THOSE AREAS. DO WE NEED TO TABLE THIS AND ASK YOU TO CHECK IT OUT? WE CAN CHECK IT OUT. WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN MAKE SOME PROPOSED CLARIFICATIONS IN THE REGULATIONS BASED ON THOSE QUESTIONS, AND THEN THE BOARD CAN JUST LOOK AT THEM THE NEXT TIME AND DETERMINE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. AND WE CAN GET WE CAN GET SOME. I KIND OF WANT TO RUN DOWN THE THE UPDATED CODE. AND IT'S ALSO AN ISSUE WITH CITIES PROBABLY GOING TO BE BRINGING BACK UPDATED CODES ON THE, ON THE HORIZON TO GET TO THE 24 OR POSSIBLY 27 CODES. SO A LOT OF THIS MAY CHANGE AUTOMATICALLY WITH TIME ANYWAYS. OKAY, SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS ISSUE TILL NEXT MEETING. DOES THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME. IT DOES. IT DOES. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU TOM. I THINK THAT'S IT. A MOTION TO ADJOURN. WELL, CAN WE DISCUSS SOMETHING THAT WE TABLED LAST MEETING THAT DIDN'T GET PUT BACK ON THE AGENDA? I KNOW WE CAN'T DISCUSS THE ITEM. NO, BUT CAN WE MAKE SURE IT'S ON THE AGENDA NEXT TIME? YOU CAN ADDRESS IF YOU WANT FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. YEAH YOU CAN. I MEAN, IF YOU WANT A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, THAT'S THAT'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. BUT NO, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T GO INTO ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS IF IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. WELL, THERE WAS AN ITEM TABLED LAST MONTH. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S NEXT MONTH ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH. CAN I TELL YOU WHAT IT IS OR HAVE TO WAIT TILL AFTER WE'RE DONE? WELL, JUST SEND IN A REQUEST. WE DON'T. LEGAL DOES NOT SET ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. WE HAVE TO HAVE REQUESTS ACTUALLY. I MEAN, THEY SEND YOU THE AGENDA TO APPROVE. BUT I MISSED IT BECAUSE I FORGOT IT BEEN TABLED. NOBODY NOBODY PUT IT ON AFTER THIS MEETING. COULD HE JUST TEXT CHRISTINA? YEAH. JUST SEND HER A MESSAGE AND IT'LL IT'LL GET ON THE NEXT AGENDA. YEAH. SORT OF. WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT IT ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE HADN'T GOT THE INFORMATION FROM THE PERSON THAT WE ASKED FOR. THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN US ANY MORE INFORMATION. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO DISCUSS IT OR NOT. I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T WANT TO. WE'D TABLE IT AGAIN AND GO ON DOWN THE ROAD. IF WE'VE GOTTEN IT, THEN WE COULD DEAL WITH IT. ALL RIGHT, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE'S WANTING TO KNOW WHY WE HADN'T DONE ANYTHING. AND I'M THINKING, WELL, YOU HAVEN'T GOT US [13. Upcoming dates for future ODC Board meetings] INFORMATION WE ASKED FOR. SO IF IT'S ON THERE AND WE TABLE IT, IT GOES BACK TO THEM. OTHERWISE IT'S NOT ON. I HEAR A MOTION THAT WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU SIR. NEXT UP MEETING SPECIAL THAT IT'S GOING TO BE OCTOBER 8TH. WHAT DAY IS THAT A THURSDAY, OCTOBER 8TH. THEY'RE USUALLY ON THURSDAYS. THOMAS. WE HAVE TO HAVE IT ON THE EIGHTH. WE CAN HAVE THE FOLLOWING WEEK. WHERE ARE YOU GOING? 15. THAT'S REALLY EARLY BECAUSE THE FIRST THURSDAY IS THE FIRST OF THE MONTH. SO THAT'S A WEEK EARLY. YEAH. THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. YES, THAT'S A LONG WEEKEND THERE TOO. YEAH. I'M OKAY WITH THE 15TH. IT'S MY BIRTHDAY WEEKEND. IT'S A HOLIDAY. SHOULD WE GO FOR THE 15TH? THE 15TH? YEAH, I THINK 15TH. ALL OKAY WITH THE 15TH? I'M ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF ACCOMMODATING BIRTHDAYS. WELL, IT'S A HOLIDAY. I DON'T LIKE BIRTHDAYS. AND COLUMBUS COLUMBUS DAY, SO. YEAH, I'M HERE THE 15TH. I NEED A MOTION FOR THAT OR NOT. ARE YOU JUST PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA? PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. OKAY, SO ODC IS NOW THE 15TH AT 3:00 HERE. 3:00. YES, SIR. OKAY. NOW, CAN WE ADJOURN? YOU MAY HAVE A [01:15:03] MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. SO MOVED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.