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IT'S 132. WE CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. WE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. NEVER LET. ALL
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RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH CONSENT ITEMS. HAVE YOU HAD A TIME TO LOOK OVER THE MINUTES TO APPROVE? THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE, A SECOND DISCUSSION. DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE I. OBJECTION. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH CASE[IV. PUBLIC HEARING]
FILE NUMBER 2026-12-Z. OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE AMENDMENT OF AN EXISTING PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT HOUSING ZONING DISTRICT ON AN 83.9 ACRE TRACT OF LAND LOCATED IN SECTION 11, BLOCK 41, TOWNSHIP TWO, SOUTH TEXAS AND PACIFIC RAILROAD COMPANY SURVEY. CITY OF ODESSA, MIDLAND COUNTY, TEXAS. GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MISSION DORADO DRIVE, APPROXIMATELY 450FT WEST OF FUTURE MIDWAY BOULEVARD COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. THE OWNER FOR 32 LAND GROUP AND CONSULTANT AMD ENGINEERING ARE REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING ZONING ON AN 83.99 ACRE TRACT OF LAND. THE REQUESTED AMENDMENT WOULD ADOPT A REVISED PLAN AND ESTABLISH AMENDED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR DEVELOPMENT UNDER A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT HOUSING ZONING DISTRICT ON MARCH 11TH, 2025 THROUGH ORDINANCE 2025 DASH TEN, ALONG WITH AN ASSOCIATED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THE APPLICANT IS NOW REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING PD TO ADOPT A SUBSTANTIALLY REVISED SITE PLAN AND MODIFY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT REORGANIZES THE INTERNAL STREET NETWORK AND RESIDENTIAL LOT LAYOUT, AND IDENTIFIES TWO COMMON AREAS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, STAFF HAS EVALUATED THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT AND FINDS THAT THE REQUEST INVOLVES SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN AN ADJUSTMENT TO INDIVIDUAL BUILDING SETBACKS.IT CHANGES THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED LOT CONFIGURATION, STREET NETWORK DEVELOPMENT, INTENSITY, BUILDING PLACEMENT AND OPEN SPACE ARRANGEMENT, AND OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN.
THE CONCERNS THE REDUCTION OF A 25 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK TO 20FT AND 15 FOOT SETBACK FOR LOTS LOCATED WITHIN CUL DE SACS. THE PROPOSED LAYOUT CONTAINS NUMEROUS CURVED TAPERED CORNER CUTS AND CUL DE SACS, LOTS WITH NARROW SUBSTANTIALLY TOWARD THE STREET. LOT WIDTH AT LINEAR STREET FRONTAGE IS REDUCED TO 25FT, WHICH DOES NOT COMPLY WITH CITY OF ODESSA ORDINANCE 14-7-3B. THE WIDTH OF THE LOT AT THE FRONT STREET SHALL BE LESS THAN 30FT. DRIVEWAYS AND OFF STREET PARKING. THE PROPOSED REDUCTION OF THE FRONT YARD SETBACK TO 20FT MAY CREATE CHALLENGES FOR ACCOMMODATING LARGER PERSONAL VEHICLES WITHIN RESIDENTIAL DRIVEWAYS, WHILE THE MINIMUM REQUIRED PARKING SPACE IS NINE BY 189 WIDTH 18 LENGTH. LARGER PERSONAL VEHICLES COMMONLY USED IN WEST TEXAS MAY EXCEED THESE DIMENSIONS, POTENTIALLY RESULTING IN INCREASED ON STREET PARKING AND NEIGHBORHOOD PARKING CONGESTION. GIVEN THE CONCENTRATION OF NARROW RESIDENTIAL LOTS MAY RESULT IN INSUFFICIENT RESIDENT, VISITOR AND OVERFLOW PARKING, CREATING POTENTIAL PARKING AND CIRCULATION CONFLICTS FOR OVERALL SUBDIVISION DESIGN AND CIRCULATION. STAFF ALSO HAS CONCERNS REGARDING THE LOCATION AND CONFIGURATION OF CERTAIN PROPOSED POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS. THE PROPOSED INTERSECTION OF ANACOSTIA ROAD AND MISSION DRIVE CURVES IN THE VICINITY OF THE PROPOSED INTERSECTION, CREATING A POTENTIAL SITE DISTANCE CONCERN FOR VEHICLES ENTERING AND EXITING THE SUBDIVISION. BASED ON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED WITH THE SUBMITTED PLAN, STAFF CANNOT DETERMINE THE PROPOSED ANACOSTIA ROAD MISSION DRIVE INTERSECTION OR ALL OTHER PROPOSED ACCESS LOCATIONS PROVIDE AN ADEQUATE INTERSECTION SPACING, SITE DISTANCE TURNING MOVEMENTS, AND SAFE VEHICULAR ACCESS. MISSION DRIVE FRONTAGE THERE ARE CONCERNS ON HOW TRAFFIC IS DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS LONG RESIDENTIAL BLOCKS, CUL DE SACS AND STREETS WITH LIMITED CROSS CONNECTIONS. THE PROPOSED STREET NETWORK SHOULD THEREFORE BE EVALUATED NOT ONLY ON TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE SUBDIVISION PROVIDES. IT PROVIDES FEWER ALTERNATIVE ROUTES WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAY CONCENTRATE VEHICLE MOVEMENTS ALONG A LIMITED NUMBER OF PRINCIPAL STREETS AND INTERSECTIONS. THE SITE PLAN DOES NOT CLEARLY IDENTIFY PROPOSED SIDEWALKS OR THE REQUIRED SCREENING TREATMENT, SCREENING TREATMENT ALONG MISSION DRIVE, INCLUDING THE WOULD SCREENING FENCE AND MASONRY COLUMNS. THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THE STAFF
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FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT REPRESENTS A SUBSTANTIAL MODIFICATION OF THE ORIGINALLY APPROVED PLAN DEVELOPMENT HOUSING PLAN DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND DOES NOT DEMONSTRATE AN APPROPRIATE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE REQUESTED REDUCTIONS IN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WHEN CONSIDERED TOGETHER WITH THE PROPOSED STREET LAYOUT, LOT CONFIGURATION AND CIRCULATION PATTERN ACCESS, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY AND PARKING CONSIDERATIONS AND INTERFERENCE INTERFACE WITH THE MISSION DRIVE DO NOT RESULT IN A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT STAFF CAN SUPPORT. BASED ON THE PRECEDING ANALYSIS, STAFF FINDS. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF CASE NUMBER 2020 612 Z AS SUBMITTED.BY. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SO I DO. SO LOOKING AT THIS AT THESE MAPS. HOW MANY OF THESE LOTS ARE REDUCED? WHAT DO YOU HAVE? LIKE A PERCENTAGE? I'D SAY ABOUT PERHAPS 15 TO 20.
AND THAT'S JUST MY CALCULATION. MOST OF THE LOTS THAT ARE REDUCED ARE THE CORNER. THE ONES THAT HAVE THE CORNER CUT. THOSE CORNER CUTS ARE NOT PART OF THE ACTUAL LOT THAT'S BEING SOLD. IT'S THE THE LOT BEING SOLD HAS A 25 FOOT WIDTH. ITS STREET FRONTAGE. THE ZONING REQUIRES A 30 FOOT WIDTH. NOW, AS FAR AS SETBACKS ARE CONCERNED, THE 20 AND THE 20FT REDUCED SETBACK. IN ORDER FOR US, IN ORDER FOR THE HOUSE TO BE BUILT OR ANY STRUCTURE TO BE BUILT, IT HAS TO GO 25FT BACK. SO IT STARTS NARROWING YOUR FRONT. YOUR FRONT IS WHERE YOU HAVE THE DRIVEWAYS, AND IT STARTS DECREASING THE AMOUNT OF DRIVEWAY THAT YOU HAVE AS WELL.
OKAY, SO I DECREASE THIS. BESIDES THE WIDTH, IT DECREASES THE PARKING SPOTS AVAILABLE.
YES. ORIGINALLY HAD 25FT LENGTH ACTUALLY SETBACK. NOW THEY'RE REQUESTING 20FT SETBACK. OKAY.
AND IT'S ABOUT 15 TO 20% OF THESE LOTS ARE REDUCED. CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WHERE YOU'RE CONSIDERING A HAZARDOUS. CAN YOU POINT US IN THE MAP WHERE YOU THINK THERE'S A HAZARDOUS. YOU SAID MISSION. YES. TOWARDS THE YES, TOWARDS THE YOU CAN SEE TOWARDS THE TOP THERE. THERE IS THAT STREET THAT GOES STRAIGHT OUT ONTO MISSION DRIVE. THAT MISSION DRIVE CREATES. A SITUATION FOR VISIBILITY, FOR ONCOMING TRAFFIC, AND THOSE THAT WANT TO EXIT THE SUBDIVISION. OKAY. WHAT STREET IS THAT MISSION DRIVE? WHICH ONE IN THE MIDDLE? WHICH ONE IS THE STREET COMING? IT COMES EMPTY. ANTICOSTI. WHAT IS ANTICOSTI? ANTICOSTI. OKAY, OKAY. AND ANOTHER. OKAY. THE LENGTH OF THE BLOCKS, ARE THEY WITHIN STANDARD? BECAUSE, I MEAN, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS DEVELOPER, THERE'S A CERTAIN LENGTH OF THE BLOCK BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF THE BLOCKS. BECAUSE, I MEAN, IF THEY'RE TOO LONG, CARS TEND TO SPEED. IS THAT SOME KIND ARE WE FACING ARE THESE TWO THESE BLOCKS TOO LONG? IS THERE SOME KIND OF HAZARDS OF THESE KEEPING THIS LONG? SO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REQUIRES WELL, ALLOWS FOR A 1600 FOOT BLOCK. OKAY. THESE ARE POSSIBLY HALF ABOUT 900FT. IT DOES KIND OF CREATE A HAZARD. BECAUSE OF YOU HAVE STREETS COMING ON THIS WAY FROM OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS. OKAY, SO THESE LONGER LOTS DO CREATE SOME TYPE OF CONGESTION.
THEY CREATE ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES, A SITUATION WHERE EMERGENCY VEHICLES ARE NOT EASILY, CANNOT EASILY REACH THE LOCATIONS. SO SO IS IT A POTENTIAL HAZARD FOR LONG LIFE.
IT'S A POTENTIAL HAZARD. THAT'S WHAT WE DISCOVERED. WE HAVE NOTHING ELSE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT SAID THAT THEY COULD BE SHORTER, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE SEE AS FAR AS THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. AND ANOTHER QUESTION IS THERE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT? IS THERE ANYTHING ON THE SIDES BEHIND? DO THEY HAVE TO PUT A WALL RETAINING WALL OR SOMETHING? SO IN THE PREVIOUS ZONING, THERE WAS A CONSIDERATION FOR A WALL. IT WAS APPROVED TO HAVE A MASONRY WALL ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT RUNS FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH OF. WE DON'T SEE THAT WALL BARRIER HERE. WE DON'T SEE ANY OF THE TRAIL THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE NEXT TO THAT
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WALL OR ANY. WHAT'S IT CALLED, WALKABLE AREAS FOR THE FOR THE SUBDIVISION THAT WERE INITIALLY PLACED THERE IN THIS SUBDIVISION, IS THERE ENOUGH GREEN SPACES? I ONLY SEE TWO ONE PARK AND ONE TINY PARK IS THERE WHAT WAS PROPOSED? DO YOU HAVE THE MAP THAT WAS PROPOSED BEFORE? INITIALLY IT WAS THE FIRST, THE YELLOW. THE YELLOW MAP. EXHIBIT B, OR IS THIS A NEW ONE? IT'S JUST A NEW ONE. WE DON'T HAVE IT THAT ONE. OH, WE DON'T HAVE. SO WE DON'T HAVE.YEAH. SO INITIALLY THE WHAT WAS APPROVED WERE TWO PARKS AND IT HAD A WALKING TRAIL GOING AROUND IT. RIGHT. INITIALLY WHAT WAS APPROVED WERE TWO PARKS. THEY STILL HAVE THE TWO PARKS. OF COURSE, THEY MINIMIZE THEM IN SIZE, BUT. AND THESE DON'T HAVE ALLEYS DO THEY. NO.
SO THERE'S REALLY NO OPPORTUNITY TO PUT A REAR ENTRY CARPORT OR DRIVEWAY OR. CORRECT.
SO IT REALLY DOES LIMIT I GUESS. YEAH. AND IT HAD THE WALKING. IT HAD THE WALKING TRAIL. OKAY.
OKAY. YOU HAD A QUESTION. OH, I WAS JUST KNOW WHEN YOU WENT BACK TO THAT. SO IF WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MAP WITH THAT ACCOMMODATE AND FIX THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE NOW, IT YES, THAT ONE WAS ALREADY APPROVED. OKAY. THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED. PRESENTED. YES, SIR. SO THEY WENT FROM THIS MAP TO THE CURRENT MAP FOR MORE HOUSING. YES. OKAY. ANYWAY, IN THINKING IN THE FUTURE, I MEAN, HOW MANY LOTS DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HOW MANY LOTS THEY HAVE HERE? INITIALLY THEY HAD ABOUT 537 LOTS. RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE 539. IT WASN'T AN INCREASE IN LOTS, BUT IN I THINK IN THE WAY THAT THEY'RE PLACING THEM NOW. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL. I MEAN, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR ANYTHING ABOUT SCHOOLS IN THIS PART? I MEAN, THERE I MEAN, WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT AND NO SCHOOLS, NO SCHOOLS, NO RETAIL. YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE'RE FIXING TO GO INTO A PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH.
BUT THAT DOES NOT FALL ON THE ON THE DEVELOPERS. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT THERE'S ANNEXATIONS THAT COME INTO THE CITY. WE LET BOTH M, I, S D AND EISD KNOW THAT THESE ANNEXATIONS ARE COMING. THE DEVELOPER, IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE MASTER, THIS IS NOW. SO DO YOU SEE THAT? OH, GO BACK. MASTER, DO YOU SEE THAT PURPLE LOT THAT'S THERE? THE THE LANDOWNER HAS RESERVED THAT SPOT FOR A POTENTIAL SCHOOL.
HAS OFFERED IT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO BUILD IT. FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU MEAN AM I SD? YES, BECAUSE THAT IS IN THE COUNTY OF MISD. SO WHAT ARE THE CHANCES MSD WILL WANT TO BUILD A SCHOOL IN CITY OF ODESSA? I CAN'T ANSWER FOR THEM. SORRY. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YOU MENTIONED THE WALKING TRAIL, BUT DID YOU SAY THAT THERE WAS NO SIDEWALK ON THE PROPOSED ON THE NEWER ONE? SO WE WOULD LIKE TO DEFER TO THE APP TO. OKAY.
WE JUST COULDN'T SEE IT FROM WHAT THEY PROVIDED TO US, WE COULD NOT SEE IT. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, THE EXHIBITS THAT THEY JUST SHOWED US, IT JUST WASN'T SHOWING IT. BUT FROM WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF HOW MANY OF YOU GUYS WERE HERE WHEN THIS FIRST GOT INTRODUCED, BUT THIS FIRST CAME IN AS A PIT. ALL OF THIS FIRST CAME IN AS A PIT, THEN THEY CHANGED IT TO STRAIGHT ZONING. AND THAT'S WHERE THE LOT SIZES AND EVERYTHING STARTED CHANGING. THAT'S WHERE WE FROM. WHEN WE STARTED WITH THE PIT, WE STARTED WITH TWO. AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE LEFT SIDE WAS THE REPLICATION, WHAT YOU SAW ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAD TWO PARKS. AND THEN ONCE WE WENT TO STRAIGHT ZONING, IT GOT ADOPTED TO THIS. AND NOW THEY'RE CHANGING THE LAYOUT OF THE SUBDIVISION. AND THEN TO YOUR ANSWER EARLIER ABOUT THE 16 LENGTH OF THE BLOCK, TRADITIONAL BLOCKS ARE USUALLY 600 BY 300. ONCE YOU GO ABOVE THAT, THEN YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING AWAY FROM WHAT A TRADITIONAL WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS. YOU'RE GOING AWAY FROM THE CHARACTERS OF WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE. SO THE MORE THE LONGER THEY
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ARE, THE LESS WALKABLE AND THE MORE RISK THAT YOU HAVE FOR OTHER ASPECTS, SUCH AS IN HERE, IT WOULD BE RACING, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE GET A LOT IN WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT RACE DOWN THE STREETS JUST BECAUSE WE CANNOT PUT SPEED BUMPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN A LOT. AND I WOULD DEFER TO JOE. HE'S THE EXPERT, NOT ME, ON THIS MATTER, THAT HE CAN PROBABLY EXPLAIN BETTER TO THAT. BUT IN THE PLANNING ASPECT, WE ALWAYS GO, SO WHERE IT GOES TO WHEN YOU AS THE PNC BOARD CAN TELL US IN A SUBDIVISION, IF YOU'RE ALLOWING IT IS IF THEY'RE SHOWING YOU THE HARDSHIP AND WHY WE'RE GOING TO THAT LONGER BLOCKS.OKAY, OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? PUBLIC HEARING. WE CAN HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPERS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THIS MEETING TO THE PUBLIC. ANYBODY TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS, PLEASE STEP FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M COREY DOOLAN WITH AMD ENGINEERING. I REPRESENT THE DEVELOPERS. I'M WITH AMD ENGINEERING IN LUBBOCK, TEXAS, 6515 68TH STREET. WE DID HAVE A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY BEFORE WE SUBMITTED THIS.
SO I CAN ASSURE YOU THIS WASN'T HALF COCKED. WE WE DID DISCUSS THIS AND SUBMITTED IT. CAN CAN WE GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE YELLOW OTHER DIRECTION RIGHT THERE? THE ORIGINAL ONE? YES. OKAY. SO I, I ONLY SEE ONE OPEN SPACE THERE. I BELIEVE THAT THE OPEN SPACE THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED IS LARGER THAN THAT OPEN SPACE. I HAVE SEEN ANOTHER VERSION OF THIS WHERE THERE WERE MORE. IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ONLY REASON WE WERE SUBMITTING THIS PD IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A PREVIOUS ONE THAT WAS DONE THAT WAS A TRAILER PARK PD, AND SO THAT WAS THE MAIN REASON WE WERE DOING THAT. THAT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING AND TALKING WITH STAFF. AS FAR AS THE WALKING TRAIL GOES, I HAVEN'T SEEN A WALKING TRAIL ON ANY OF THE OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED ON THIS. I DO KNOW THAT MISSION DRIVE IS SKEWED TO ONE SIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY TO PROVIDE A WIDER PATH ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROADWAY THAN THE OTHER. IT'S A SIGNIFICANT SKEW. I WANT TO SAY THE PARKWAY ON ONE SIDE IS MAYBE 4 OR 5FT, SO THE OTHER SIDE IS MUCH WIDER FOR A WALKING PATH. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THERE WAS EVER A PLAN TO HAVE ONE. THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, WE WERE CERTAINLY NOT TOLD THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT. IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WE PLANNED OR SAW FROM THE PREVIOUS PLAN. WE DID TALK TO STAFF ABOUT ACCESS ON TO MISSION, AND THEY GAVE US WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE US TO DO, AND I THOUGHT THAT WE MADE THE CHANGE THAT THEY ASKED US TO MAKE IN THAT MEETING. WE'LL CERTAINLY GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT RIGHT WITH THEM. AS FOR THE WIDTH OF THE LOTS AS OUR UNDERSTANDING, IT'S A 35 FOOT MINIMUM WIDTH. WE DO HAVE THE CHAMFER WHERE THE WHERE THE INTERSECTION COMES TOGETHER.
THERE'S A CORNER CLIP TO PROVIDE VISIBLE ACCESS AND FOR ACCESSIBLE PATHS ON THE CURVES OF THE STREETS SO THAT YOU'VE GOT ACCESSIBLE RAMPS AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS SO THAT THEY CAN GET ONTO A SIDEWALK AND STILL BE WITHIN CITY RIGHT OF WAY. SO YOU HAVE THAT CHAMFER TO KEEP THAT INSTEAD OF IT COMING TO A POINT. ALL OF OUR CORNER LOTS ARE MORE THAN 30FT WIDE. ONCE YOU GET TO THAT CHAMFER, IT DOES CUT IT DOWN TO 25FT IN SOME PLACES AT THAT CHAMFER.
THAT'S IN THE SPOT IN THE SETBACK WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT DRIVEWAY. THESE HOMES ARE GOING TO BE TWO CAR GARAGE HOMES, AND THAT DRIVEWAY IS NOT OVER 25FT. WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT WIDENING THOSE. THOSE CORNER LOTS ARE WIDER THAN MOST OF THE OTHER LOTS. I WANT TO SAY OUR TYPICAL LOT IS 40FT ON THESE. BUT WITH THAT CHAMFER, IT JUST IT JUST CUTS IT DOWN.
BUT ON OUR CORNER LOTS WE'RE A LITTLE BIT WIDER THAN 40FT AS FAR AS A LOT BLOCK GOES, OUR LOT BLOCKS ARE NOT ANY LONGER THAN THAN WHAT WAS APPROVED THERE. WE STILL HAVE CUT THRUS.
IN FACT, THERE'S A LOT BLOCK ON THAT ORIGINAL ONE THAT IS LONGER THAN ANY OF THE LOT BLOCKS THAT WE HAVE WITH THIS. THE CHANGE WAS MADE BECAUSE WE ADDED SOME EFFICIENCIES. IT'S A LITTLE LESS PAVING, A LITTLE LESS SEWER, A LITTLE LESS WATER. IT WORKS A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITH THE CONTOURS OF THE PROPERTY. FOR DIRT WORK PRETTY MUCH DRAINS NORTH TO SOUTH. AND SO WE JUST FOUND SOME EFFICIENCIES WITH THE LAND PLAN, AND IT GOT US A FEW MORE LOTS TO IN DOING THAT. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE METHOD THAT WE WENT TO WITH THIS PLAN. WE'LL BE
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HAPPY TO TABLE THIS AND COME BACK WITH REVISIONS. WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO REACH BACK OUT TO STAFF AND HAVE ANOTHER MEETING AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THIS STUFF RIGHT THE NEXT TIME. I WAS NOT AWARE OF OF THESE ISSUES COMING IN TODAY, I WAS I WAS GIVEN THE THE NOTES WHEN I GOT HERE, BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO GOING FORWARD. BUT AS FAR AS THE PARKS, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT MORE THAN WHAT WAS THERE ORIGINALLY. DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT A WALKING PATH. SO ALL THAT I'M SURE WILL COVER WITH STAFF AGAIN BEFORE IT COMES BACK, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS. THE WALKING PATH WAS JUST ON THE OUTER PERIMETER OF THE SUBDIVISION. YEAH. AND IT WAS CLEAR THAT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A A MASONRY WALL. I WANT TO SAY THERE'S GOING TO BE COLUMNS, SOME MASONRY, SOME WOOD. I MEAN, THERE'S A THERE'S BEEN A PLAN FOR THAT FOR THE DEVELOPER. THEY'VE ACCOUNTED FOR ALL OF THAT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT TO STATE THAT ON THE ON THE PD. SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S THAT'S STATE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO BALK FROM AS FAR AS THE SETBACKS GO ON THE FRONTS.WE'RE FINE TO GO TO 25. I WANT TO SAY THAT THAT'S WHAT THE REST OF FIRST FILING IS, IS 25.
WHEN WE HAD OUR PRE ZONING MEETING THE OTHER DAY, WE BROUGHT UP THAT AS A POSSIBILITY. BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO DIE ON THAT HILL. YOU KNOW WE HAD THAT PRE ZONING MEETING AND AND AND THE SETBACKS DID COME UP. NONE OF THESE OTHER THINGS I REMEMBER COMING UP LIKE THAT. OR WE WOULD HAVE PULLED IT AND FIXED IT. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR AND ADDING THAT THAT MASONRY MASONRY WALL, WOULD THAT REDUCE THAT THE OUTER LOTS SIZES, WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE IS IT'S GOING TO BE AN EASEMENT ON THE OUTER LOTS. SO WE'LL ADD THE FENCE EASEMENT. IT'LL BE A PART OF THOSE EXTERIOR LOTS THAT BACK UP TO MISSION. IT'LL BE THERE. IT'LL BE THEIR BACKYARD WALL. IT'LL JUST BE BUILT BY THE DEVELOPER AND IT'LL BE PUT IN A TWO FOOT EASEMENT. I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE CITY REQUESTED ON, ON THE OTHER PARTS WHERE WE'RE BUILDING ALONG MISSION WITH WITH FIRST FILING. SO IT'LL BE THE SAME, SAME SCENARIO. PERFECT. YEAH. THE QUESTIONS. NO. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST? THERE'S NOBODY ELSE. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE SECTION OF THE MEETING, SO WE'LL JUST NEED TO DENY THIS REQUEST TO TABLE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE IT. YEAH WE'RE GOING TO TABLE. SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THEIR REQUEST. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO TACKLE IT. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO YEAH THAT'S OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE REQUEST. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OBJECTION? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES TO DENY. NO NO NO NO. IT WAS TWO. JUST THE MOTION. THE MOTION TO TABLE IT. YEAH. TO TABLE IT. OKAY. THE MOTION. SO YOU'RE GOING TO MOTION. NO MOTION TO TABLE. NOW YOU'RE GOING TO NOW YOU'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THEM TO TABLE.
MOTION TO TABLE A MOTION TO TABLE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE SECOND. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. INJECTION. SAME SIGN. OKAY. MOTION TO TABLE. YEAH.
WE'RE JUST DENYING THE REQUEST FROM THE CITY. YES. YEAH. WE'RE DOING ALL RIGHT NOW. CASE FILE NUMBER 2026-13-Z. OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST BY DURANGO JUNIOR FOR A ZONE CHANGE FROM G R GENERAL RESIDENT DISTRICT TO P PARKING DISTRICT ON LOT 17 AND 18 TO REPLAT THE WEST ONE THIRD OF MIDDLE, ONE THIRD OF LOTS 14, 15 AND 16 BLOCK FOR SMITH PIERCE. IN ADDITION. CITY OF ODESSA, ECTOR COUNTY, TEXAS, GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH LEE AVENUE AND WEST MAPLE STREET.
COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSION MEMBERS. THE PROPERTY INVOLVED IN THIS REQUEST IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH LEE AVENUE AND WEST MAPLE. THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED GENERAL RESIDENCE AND IS VACANT AND DEVELOPED. LAND USE IN THIS AREA GENERALLY CONSISTS OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH, SOUTH AND WEST, WITH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PRIMARILY LOCATED TO THE EAST ALONG SOUTH GRANT AVENUE. THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A REZONE FOR REZONE TO PARKING TO FACILITATE EXPANDED OFF SITE PARKING FOR SPECIAL OCCASIONS. LOCATED AT 500 SOUTH GRANT AVENUE, PARKING HAS BEEN A KNOWN CONSIDERATION ASSOCIATED WITH SPECIAL OCCASIONS SINCE THE BUSINESS WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2023. STAFF WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT AT THE TIME TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL OFF SITE PARKING IN ORDER TO SATISFY THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. THE PROPOSED PARKING AREA IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 230FT FROM THE EXISTING BUSINESS. WHEN ACCESSED THROUGH THE ALLEY,
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AND WOULD INTRODUCE A 36 PARKING SPACE PARKING FACILITY SERVING COMMERCIAL EVENT ONTO THE INTO AN AREA PREDOMINANTLY CHARACTERIZED BY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT STAFF CONCERNS.STAFF HAS CONCERNS REGARDING THE PHYSICAL SEPARATION BETWEEN THE PROPOSED PARKING AREA AND THE EXISTING BUSINESS. PATRONS WOULD HAVE TO TRAVEL BETWEEN THE PARKING AREA AND THE VENUE, PRIMARILY THROUGH THE ALLEY, WHICH IS NOT DESIGNED AS A DEDICATED PEDESTRIAN ROUTE AND CURRENTLY LACKS ADEQUATE LIGHTING FOR REGULAR PEDESTRIAN TRAVEL. BETWEEN THE PROPOSED PARKING AREA AND THE VENUE. WHILE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING MAY BE MAY IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN VISIBILITY, INCREASED LIGHTING AND PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY MAY ALSO CREATE ADDITIONAL IMPACTS ON THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN DOES NOT PROVIDE A PHYSICAL OR LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN THE PROPOSED PARKING AREA AND THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH. SCREENING, LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING AND OTHER SITE IMPROVEMENTS MAY MITIGATE SOME OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS. HOWEVER, THESE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD NOT FULLY ADDRESS THE UNDERLYING LAND USE COMPATIBILITY CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH CONVERTING RESIDENTIAL ZONE PROPERTY. STAFF RECOGNIZES THE APPLICANT'S NEED TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THE EXISTING BUSINESS. HOWEVER, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF SOUTH LEE AND WEST MAPLE STREET, IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR THE ADDITIONAL PARKING. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE REQUEST BASED ON PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND THE NEED FOR SUFFICIENT RELIABLE, LONG TERM PARKING SOLUTION FOR THE EXISTING BUSINESS STAFF. RECOMMENDS DENIAL BASED ON THE CONCERNS RELATED TO PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, SITE DESIGN AND COMPATIBILITY WITH ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YOU MENTIONED BACK IN 2022 THAT I HAD KIND OF REACHED SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT FOR FOR THEM TO OBTAIN ADDITIONAL PARKING. THAT NEVER HAPPENED. WELL, IT DID. WHAT THEY HAD PROVIDED TO US AT THE TIME WAS THAT THEY HAD, I GUESS. THAT THEY HAD YOU SEE, THE REQUIREMENT WAS FOR 87 PARKING SPACES, RIGHT? THEY HAD INDICATED THAT THEY HAD, YOU SEE 1660 PARKING SPACES AND. 22 STILL NEEDED TO BE ADDED. THEY DID A RELEASE WITH THE NEIGHBORING WITH THE NEIGHBOR. RIGHT, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THEM, ADJACENT TO THEM. AND THEY ADDED MORE PARKING. HOWEVER, AT THE TIME, WE DID NOT DO ANY PARKING INSPECTIONS. IT WAS NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR US. SO WE DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO GO OUT THERE TO THE SITE. RIGHT NOW THEY ARE REQUESTING ADDITIONAL PARKING BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY EXCEEDED WHAT THEY HAVE NOW. OKAY. SO HOW LONG IS THE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THEIR NEIGHBOR? IT DOESN'T HAVE A TERMINATION DATE ON THE AGREEMENT AT ALL. HOWEVER, THOSE AGREEMENTS ARE ONLY FOR THE CURRENT BUSINESS OWNER. YES. IF THE MK OCCASIONS EVENT CENTER EVER CHANGES HANDS OR HAS A NEW OWNER, THEY WOULD HAVE TO RENEW THEIR OKAY, THEIR AGREEMENT. YEAH, BECAUSE I WROTE ABOUT IT ON THE WAY HERE AND I, AND I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING ON BECAUSE I SAW THE EXTRA SPOTS THERE. OKAY. I'M GOOD. SO THEY'RE JUST ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING. THAT'S NOT. YES. AND THEY WANT TO CONVERT THAT AREA NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL AS A PARKING PART ZONED PARKING AREA. BUT THEIR ACCESS TO IT IS THROUGH THE ALLEY, WHICH IS NOT ADEQUATE, RIGHT? WHICH CREATES A WALK DOWN THE STREET. OR THEY COULD WALK DOWN THE STREET, WALK DOWN THE STREET TO THEY CAN THERE THERE IS A RESIDENCE. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU COULD SEE IT THERE, BUT THERE IS A RESIDENCE AT THE END OF THE IN BETWEEN THE THE PROPOSED SIDE AND THERE IS A RESIDENCE THERE ON THE CORNER.
AND THEN THERE'S A. OF COURSE, THE ONE NEXT TO THAT VACANT LOT. OR THEY COULD HAVE A SERVICE THERE, PICK THEM UP AND DRIVE THEM. THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. BUT THAT WOULD BE THE NEIGHBORS MADE ANY ANY RECOMMENDATIONS? THEY. WERE THEY NOTIFIED. I'M SORRY. ANY OF THEIR NEIGHBORS, THE NEIGHBORS WERE SENT NOTICES. WE DID SEND OUT 23 NOTICES. WE ONLY HAD ONE LETTER RETURNED.
THERE WAS NO APPROVALS OR PROTESTS. SO IF IT'S NOT ON THIS, IF THAT BUSINESS DECIDES TO GO THAT CHANGE, THAT ZONING CHANGES, IT CAN BECOME ANYTHING THAT IS ALLOWED IN THAT ZONING.
THAT'S WHAT I NEED YOU GUYS TO UNDERSTAND AS WELL. IT'S DON'T LOOK AT IT JUST AS WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S ALSO THE LONGEVITY OF WHAT POTENTIALLY CAN GO IN THERE AS WELL FOR THE PARKING, FOR THE PARKING THAT THEY WANT TO ADD THAT CAN BE SOLD, THAT CAN BE IT CAN BE CONVERTED TO ANYTHING ELSE. TODAY IT'S GOING TO BE A PARKING TOMORROW CAN BE
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SOMETHING ELSE. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. OKAY. OKAY. THERE'S NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THIS SECTION OF THE MEETING TO THE PUBLIC. ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE VARIANCE, PLEASE STEP FORWARD. IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. HELLO. MY NAME IS MARISOL RAMON. I AM THE OWNER OF A SPECIAL OCCASIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOU GUYS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE HAZARD THAT THEY BROUGHT TO YOU. HOWEVER, I AM TRYING TO MAKE THAT BETTER. I HAVE PEOPLE PARKING ON THE STREET, PARKING ACROSS THE STREET, AND THEY WALK TO THE VENUE. WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT LOCAL, YOU KNOW, CENTRALIZED TO WHERE THEY CAN HAVE ONE PARKING SPACE. THE LIGHTING IS AN ISSUE.
WE CAN WORK WITH THAT. ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS SUGGEST OR THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BRING UP TO CODE, WE WILL DO THAT. WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THIS PETITION TO BE LOOKED AT. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO WHAT ELSE IS ALL AROUND IN THERE THAT'S MORE COMMERCIALS OR ANY OTHER KIND OF PARKING. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S PARKING ACROSS THE STREET. WE DO. WE HAVE PERMISSION FROM OUR NEIGHBORS TO PARK. WELL, THERE LOOKS LIKE THERE'S LITTLE PARKING ACROSS MAPLE ALSO. YEAH. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. OH, I'M SORRY. YOU HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE THE OWNER OF THAT RESIDENCE, RIGHT. THAT'S GOING TO BE IN BETWEEN YOU AND THE ALLEY. YES. AS A MATTER OF FACT, HE'S A REALLY GOOD NEIGHBOR OF OURS, AND HE HELPS US LOOK AFTER THE PARK.
HE'LL GO IN, HE'LL CLEAN IF PEOPLE LEAVE ANYTHING AND STUFF, AND HE CALLS US IF THERE'S ANYTHING LEFT OUT AND STUFF WE DO KEEP REALLY GOOD COMMUNICATION WITH HIM AND HE'S NOT WILLING TO SELL THAT TO YOU. IT'S NOT HIS. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT'S A RELATIVE OF HIS THAT LIVES OUTSIDE OF TOWN. WE HAVE TRIED, WE HAVE TRIED, BUT YES. OKAY. AND AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, FUTURE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH MISTER BAY TO PURCHASE THIS. HE PURCHASED IT HIMSELF, WANTING TO PUT THOSE MAKE HOUSES INTO WITH THOSE TWO LOTS.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE THAT RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS IS RIGHT THERE IN THE CORNER, HE'S NOT ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, JUST CUT ACROSS HIS LAND TO BRING, I'M GUESSING THE WATER OR THE SEWER LINES AND STUFF. HE WOULD HAVE TO LIKE LITERALLY GO ALL THE WAY AROUND IT, WHICH WOULD BE A MAJOR COST FOR HIM. HE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO ANYTHING WITH THOSE LOTS. AND WHEN HE CAME TO US, YOU KNOW ABOUT SELLING THEM. WE'RE VERY INTERESTED. WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO BUILD ANYTHING IN THE FUTURE. SO WE WOULDN'T LOOK AT HAVING TO DO ANY OF THAT. YOU KNOW, THE WATER LINES OR THE SEWER LINES. PARKING IS ALL WE WANT IT FOR. AND THAT'S JUST TO BETTER SERVE OUR CLIENTS. LIKE HE SAID, WE OPENED IN 2023 AND WE HAVE GROWN. WE DO GET A LOT OF GOOD REVIEWS FROM OUR CUSTOMERS. IF YOU SEE LIKE OUR OUR REVIEW PAGE, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF REVIEWS. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR THEM. AND THEN WHAT'S SOUTH OF THAT? WHAT'S THAT PARKING LOT SOUTH OF, OF Y'ALL ACROSS MAPLE? IS IT IS IT ACROSS MAPLE? WHAT IS THIS? MABEL. MABEL. MABEL. MABEL. MABEL. MABEL. IS THAT A PARKING LOT? IS THAT. DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THAT? IS IT RIGHT THERE ON GRANT STREET? YES, THEY. IT. I BELIEVE IT'S A WATER STORE. WE ALSO HAVE GOOD COMMUNICATION WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. AND WE DO HAVE PERMISSION TO PARK THERE AS WELL. LIKE I SAID, EVEN ACROSS THE STREET FROM US SURPLUS CITY.
BUT CROSSING THAT GRANT STREET IS A CONCERN FOR US. YES. YEAH. SO THAT WATER PLACE, Y'ALL CAN'T USE RENT LEASE THAT TO GET MORE. WE DO. BUT THEY CONDUCT BUSINESS. SO YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW JUST MAKE IT TO WHERE IT'S STRICTLY, YOU KNOW, M'KAY, PARKING AND YOU KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE THEIR PERMISSION TO PARK THERE. LIKE I SAID, ALL OUR NEIGHBORS AROUND US, BUT WE JUST WANT TO WE KNOW THAT THEY CONDUCT BUSINESS AS WELL. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST TO MAKE IT BETTER. OKAY. AND RIGHT THERE ON THAT CORNER OF MABEL AND GRANT, RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR PARKING LOT. WHAT IS IN THERE? THERE SEEMS LIKE SEVERAL DIFFERENT BUILDINGS THERE. YES. RIGHT HERE. IS THERE LIKE A IS THAT A HOUSE? THEY ARE ACTUALLY ABANDONED BUILDINGS. SINCE WE'VE BEEN THERE. NOBODY'S BEEN THERE. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY JUST PUT THEM ON TO ON FOR SALE AND WE LOOKED AT THEM. BUT I BELIEVE THEY'RE ASKING FOR LIKE 125,000 FOR THAT CORNER ONE AND THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE, $75,000. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH
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PARKING WE COULD GET OUT OF THAT, BUT THAT IS THAT IS A LOT. AS OPPOSED TO GETTING THE LOTS FOR MR. BASS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, I MEAN, IF YOU WERE TO PURCHASE THOSE, THOSE WOULD BE A. I THINK MY PERSONAL OPINION WOULD BE A BETTER SUITABLE. IT WOULD IT WOULD BE A SUITABLE FOR YOU.IT WOULD. YEAH. BY THE TIME YOU TORE THEM DOWN. YEAH. COST TOO MUCH. YEAH. THE COST WOULD BE NOT NOT TO MENTION JUST THE INITIAL COST OF PURCHASING THEM. IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE. BUT TEARING THEM DOWN AND DOING WHAT WE NEED TO AT THE MOMENT I CAN'T DO THAT. BUT MR. BASS, WHO ACTUALLY CAME TO US AND YOU KNOW, WAS LOOKING TO SELL IT, I THINK WOULD BENEFIT BOTH OF US.
YOU KNOW, HE PURCHASED THAT AS A. TO WHERE HE CAN TRY TO BUILD HOMES AND SELL THEM. AND HE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO NOTHING WITH IT. SO I THINK IT WOULD HELP US BOTH OUT. ALL RIGHT.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR. NO, I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PARKING SOME DISTANCE AND WALKING THROUGH. OR LIKE I SAY, THE BEST SOLUTION WOULD BE TO PURCHASE THOSE ABANDONED HOUSES, WHATEVER. YEAH. AND I WATCHED IT HAPPEN ON GRANT STREET WITH CAROL'S AMBULANCE SERVICE. THE BILL, THE BUSINESS WEST OF THEM. OH, S I TORE DOWN A PERFECTLY GOOD BUILDING AND PAVED OVER WITH A PARKING LOT. AND, YOU KNOW, AND I'M SURE THAT THAT WASN'T CHEAP EITHER, SO I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND THE MONEY PART, BUT I DON'T THINK THE CONCERN WITH THIS LOT AND REZONING IT WOULD BE WITH Y'ALL DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH IT. IT'S THE DISTANT FUTURE. IF WE WERE TO REZONE IT, ANYBODY COULD DO ANYTHING WITH IT IF THEY WERE TO PURCHASE IT FROM Y'ALL LATER. SO THAT'S THE MAIN CONCERN, I BELIEVE. YEAH. IT'S OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO CLOSE. IS THERE SOMEBODY ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR HER? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST, PLEASE STEP FORWARD. IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. HELLO, I'M IRVIN WIERENGA 616 SOUTH SAM HOUSTON IN ODESSA, TEXAS. SO THANK YOU AGAIN. SORRY I WAS LATE. I WAS HEARING IT ONLINE AND I RUSHED OVER HERE WHEN Y'ALL STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT. JUST LIKE HOW SHE HAD MENTIONED EARLIER. I, I WENT TO THEM TO TRY TO SELL THOSE LOTS. SO FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE TWO HOMES THERE. I SPOKE TO VARIOUS PEOPLE HERE IN THE CITY, AND NO ONE'S HELPED ME TO TRY TO GET A SEWER LINE. I'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT QUOTES TO TRY TO GET A SEWER LINE. I SPENT ALMOST 2020 5000 JUST IN REPLATTING IT GETTING AN ENGINEER TO REDO ALL THE SEWER LINE. AND I GOT THREE DIFFERENT QUOTES FROM CONTRACTORS. SINCE THE CITY OF ODESSA DOES NOT HAVE ANY CONTRACTORS THAT THEY THEY HIRE OUTSIDE. SO THEY'RE SUBCONTRACTORS. YOU KNOW, ALL THREE QUOTES CAME BACK ANYWHERE FROM 60 TO 80,000 JUST TO RUN TWO MANHOLES IN THE SEWER LINE IN THROUGH THE STREET. SO ON MY END, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY THERE'S NO PROFIT FOR ME AS A BUILDER, AS THAT WAS MY GOING TO BE MY FIRST INVESTMENT. I DO GRANITE COUNTERTOPS. THAT'S MY BUSINESS HERE IN ODESSA. WE HAVE A REPUTABLE COMPANY HERE. YOU KNOW, MY THING WAS WANTING TO GO INTO BUILDING HOMES. THOSE WERE MY FIRST TWO LOTS. THEY WERE TRAP HOMES LIKE TEN YEARS AGO. I BOUGHT THEM AT AUCTION, DEMOLISHED THEM, WANTED TO REBUILD. THEN THE WHOLE SEWER PROBLEM CAME TO BE. I GOT IN CONTACT WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY HIRED ME FOR SOME GRANITE. I'VE DONE GRANITE INSIDE THEIR THEIR EVENT CENTER AS WELL. AND I TOLD THEM LIKE JUST ABOUT THE PARKING LOT, HOW I'VE BEEN HAVING ISSUES TRYING TO GET THE SEWER LINES, EVERYTHING. AND SHE'S LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE COULD USE IT FOR PARKING IF IT'S A POSSIBLE SOLUTION FOR YOU. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE DOING THIS. I DID HEAR ONLINE AND I UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY CONCERNS, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A BUSY CITY OR A BUSY MAIN STREET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF GRANT. IF THEY ARE TO BUY SOMETHING THERE, THERE'S NO CROSSWALK. PEOPLE ARE GOING 35, 45 MILES AN HOUR THROUGH THAT STREET. MY HOUSE IS THREE, THREE BLOCKS AWAY FROM THOSE HOMES THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, MY WHOLE INTENTION OF BUYING THESE HOMES WAS TO BEAUTIFY THE CITY OF ODESSA IN SOUTH ODESSA. I WAS BORN AND RAISED THERE, BUT HONESTLY, THERE'S NO HELP. LIKE WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO HELP FROM ANYONE.
EVERYONE'S JUST GOING TO EAST ODESSA, NORTH ODESSA. BUT ODESSA HAS GOT ZERO HELP FROM
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OUR COMMUNITY. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO BEAUTIFY DOWNTOWN ODESSA. ANYTHING SOUTH OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS. ME BEING BORN AND RAISED THERE HAS. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ZERO HELP FROM THE CITY ON THAT. THEY REACHED OUT TO ME, WE SPOKE AND I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? IF IT COULD HELP Y'ALL, IT'LL BENEFIT ME BECAUSE ON MY END, FOR ME TO DO THE SEWER LINE AND ALL THAT, I WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH. GOING OVER ON MAKING PROFIT. THERE'S NO PROFIT TO BE MADE. SO WHY AM I GOING TO BUILD TWO HOMES WHEN I HAVE TO SPEND 8000 JUST ON SEWER LINE? EVEN IF IT'S TWO HOMES, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR ME, YOU KNOW, AND I'M BARELY STARTING OUT TRYING TO BRANCH MYSELF IN THAT, I GUESS IN, IN, IN THAT, IN THAT ASPECT OF CONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE I'VE DONE IT FOR 18 YEARS NOW HERE IN THIS STATE OR SORRY, IN THE CITY. AND YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, MY MAIN CONCERN WAS SOUTH ODESSA IS NOT GETTING LOOKED AT. THERE'S BEING OPEN LOTS EVERYWHERE. IF YOU GO THROUGH SOUTH ODESSA, THERE'S EMPTY LOTS THROUGH THE WHOLE SOUTH OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, YOU KNOW. AND MY QUESTION WAS, I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE'S A I BELIEVE WE SPOKE TO PLANNING. WE SPOKE TO THEM AND THEY WERE ALL. IT'S BEEN ALL OKAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS REGARDING THE, I GUESS THE SAFETY OR, OR THE LIGHTING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WILLING TO DO WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DO IN ORDER TO PUT THAT, EVEN IF IT WERE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, PAVE THE, THE ALLEYWAY OR SOMETHING TO WHERE IT'S A DIRECT ACCESS TO THE SALON OR EVEN BEHIND THAT HOME. AND WE KIND OF SPOKE ABOUT IT.THERE'S DIFFERENT MANNERS THAT WAY THEY WON'T HAVE TO BE CROSSING A BUSY INTERSECTION, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THE TRAFFIC FROM THE TRASH CAN THAT GOES THROUGH THE ALLEYWAY, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT'S GETTING THAT'S PASSING BY. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A BUSY FOUR LANE, FIVE LANE HIGHWAY THAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO CROSS. IT'S LITERALLY CROSSING ONE HOUSE TO GET TO THE TO THEIR EVENT CENTER. SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GIVE MY CONCERNS OUT THERE REGARDING WHAT I WAS PLANNING TO DO, TO WHY I CHOSE TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, SEE IF THEY CAN MAKE A PARKING LOT OUT OF THIS LAND BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER OPTION WITH THAT LAND. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR ME TO SELL IT TO SOMEONE, SOMEONE ELSE IS GOING TO HAVE TO REINVEST THAT MONEY TO MAKE A NEW SEWER LINE TO BUILD HOMES. AND I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, WITH NO ONE WANTING TO HELP THROUGH THE CITY, THEN IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, MY HANDS ARE TIED TO WHAT I CAN DO THERE WITH THOSE PIECES OF LAND. AND I MEAN, THAT'S THE BEST THING TO DO IS TO HELP THEM OUT AND AN EVENT CENTER AND, YOU KNOW, GO FROM THERE. SO ALL RIGHT. SO YOU OWN THE TWO LOT SOUTH OF THEM OF THEIR EVENT? NO, THE ACTUAL LOTS THEMSELVES. OKAY. YES. I OWN THE LOT IN BETWEEN THAT ONE THERE. SO, SO THERE'S THREE LOTS THERE AND I CONVERTED INTO TWO LOTS TO MAKE TWO NEW HOMES BECAUSE THOSE ARE TECHNICALLY THEY WERE LIKE ALMOST TRAILER LOTS. SO I SPENT MONEY TO REPLAT THE LOTS. THEY WERE, THEY WERE FACING, THEY WERE FACING LIKE THIS. AND I MADE IT INTO TWO LOTS. SO I SPENT MONEY THERE. AND THEN I SPENT MONEY TRYING TO RE-ENGINEER. YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S TWO LOTS WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S THREE LOTS. IT LOOKS CORRECT. YEAH, IT GOT REPLATTED. IT GOT REPLATTED INTO TWO SEPARATE LOTS TO MAKE TWO HOMES. OKAY. YEAH. SO YOU HAVE THE WHOLE CORNER, THE WHOLE THING. YES, MA'AM. WHAT'S ON THOSE LOTS? WHAT'S ON THOSE LOTS BETWEEN BETWEEN THE PROPOSED. OKAY.
THAT'S PARKING LOT AND THE ALLEY. IS THERE ANYTHING ON THOSE LOTS? NO, THE THREE LOTS.
IT'S ALL. IT'S JUST EMPTY LAND. OKAY, HERE'S THE QUESTION THAT I NEED TO ASK. CAN YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS WITH THIS PROPOSED PARKING LOT, CAN YOU JUST CUT A PATH, A SMALL WALKING PATH INTO THE ALLEY, AND THEN THAT CONNECTS THE TWO LOTS AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO WALK AROUND. SO SO THAT ONE. YEAH. SO THE THAT THE RED LINE, IT'S ALL THE WAY UP TO THAT OTHER NEIGHBOR. SO IT'S, IT'S THAT WHOLE HEART. IT'S THE, THE YEAH, IT'S THE WHOLE LOT. SO PRETTY MUCH ALL THAT, THAT LAND UP TO THE, TO THE FENCE LINE, ALL THAT. YEAH. ALL, ALL THE WAY TO THE FENCE LINE OF THE HOUSE ON, ON THE NORTH END OF THAT. THAT'S THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE PIECE OF LAND THERE. OKAY. SO I MEAN, EVEN FENCING THAT OFF THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT HAVING THE NEIGHBORS HAVE FENCED OFF. AND THEN EVEN AT THE VERY TOP OF THAT OF THE, THE EXISTING HOUSE, THERE'S LIKE A SMALL SHED THAT'S PRETTY MUCH COLLAPSED. WE SPOKE ABOUT IT AND EVEN TALKED ABOUT DOING LIKE A PATH FROM THERE. THAT WAY THEY WON'T HAVE TO GO IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE. BUT AND I'M SURE THEY WOULD, YOU OWN THAT. YOU OWN THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WHERE THAT SHED IS TOO. SHE MENTIONED EARLIER. I TRIED BUYING IT BEFORE TO MAKE IT EASIER. AND SO THE ORIGINAL OWNER PASSED AWAY, GOT LEFT TO THE BROTHER. THE BROTHER LIVES IN SAN ANTONIO. I SPOKE TO HIM MANY TIMES. HE HAS HEALTH ISSUES. IT'S PRETTY MUCH ONE OF THOSE WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO AND GET LIKE SIGNATURES FROM ALL THE SIBLINGS AND GRANDKIDS.
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YEAH, THE GRANDKIDS NOW. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE SPOKE TO THEM VARIOUS TIMES AND HE'S JUST LIKE, HE'S LIKE, I WANT TO SELL IT TO YOU. BUT I IT'S GOING TO BE HARD BECAUSE HE LIVES IN SAN ANTONIO. LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN ON THIS ON THE I'VE BEEN HOLDING THIS LAND FOR QUITE, QUITE SOME TIME NOW. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR HIM? THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ANYBODY ELSE? WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THIS SECTION OF THE MEETING. OKAY. WE'RE A PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. COME UP. OKAY. WHAT IS THE ISSUE WITH THE PARKING? WHY CAN THEY CAN THEY PARK SAFETY ISSUE? I'LL BE BRIEF. THEY PRETTY MUCH COVERED EVERYTHING. MY NAME IS CESAR RAMON. I LIVE ON 1681 ANGEL TRAIL, ODESSA, TEXAS.SHE'S THE OWNER AND I JUST WORKED THERE. I'M HER HUSBAND. BUT THE WAY I SEE IT. OKAY.
YEAH. I MEAN, LOOK HOW REALLY CLOSE MY PARKING IS RIGHT THERE. IT'S JUST REALLY ACROSS THE ALLEY. IT'S IT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO GET, YOU KNOW, TO THE SALON BACK AND FORTH. SO RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO PARK ALL OVER THE STREETS, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE STREET. AND I WAS THINKING, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE THE CLOSEST PLACE TO PARK, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM SAFELY. I WANT A FENCE IN THE NEIGHBORS PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHAT WAS MY PLAN. FENCE IT UP FOR THEM, GIVE THEM THEIR PRIVACY. AND BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S A SHORT WALKING DISTANCE. AND I THINK IT WILL ELIMINATE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO PARK AROUND THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PEOPLE HAVING TO WALK TO THE VENUE. IT'S BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL VENUE, THANK GOD. AND I WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN DO SOME KIND OF A PROMISE OR A CONTRACT THAT, THAT, THAT PARKING THAT WE MAKE. IT WILL ALWAYS STAY AS A PARKING THAT NO, NO ONE CAN CHANGE IT TO DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH IT. CAN WE PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPERTY, THIS DEED RESTRICTION.
SO THIS IS STRICT ZONING THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. SO YOU GUYS CAN DENY THIS ONE. WE CAN TRY TO WORK WITH THEM. A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS NOT INTENDED FOR US TO BE ABLE TO USE ZONING IN ORDER TO CREATE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS. BUT WE CAN OBVIOUSLY TRY TO WORK WITH THEM. I THINK IT'S HE WOULD PROBABLY, I WOULD RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, SURVEYING THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST TO SEE. I DO SEE THEIR POINT. YOU KNOW, IT'S WHAT, WHAT IS THE BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, OF HAVING PARKING OUT IN THE STREET, TAKING THAT AWAY FROM THEM OR PUTTING THEM IN A DESIGNATED AREA. WANTED TO GO BACK TO WHY WE ENDED UP WITH THESE LOTS IS BECAUSE THIS LOTS THEY WERE RECTANGLE. AT FIRST THERE WERE TWO LOTS, BUT SOMEBODY SOLD IT BY METES AND BOUNDS LIKE THE GUY HIM MENTIONED THAT HE BOUGHT IT ON AN AUCTION. THERE WAS A REASON WHY THIS IS WHY? BECAUSE THESE LOTS WERE NOT INTENDED TO BE THIS WAY. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE RECTANGULAR. THEY GO TO THE ALLEYS AND THAT'S WHERE ALL OF OUR UTILITIES ARE. THE ALLEYS TODAY IS WE WOULD WE CAN GO BACK AND TAKE PICTURES. IT'S NOT ADEQUATE FOR PEOPLE TO BE WALKING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. SO IT BECOMES A HAZARD, A SAFETY ISSUE FOR THEM. SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO WORK OUT WITH THEM, THAT THAT ALLEY WOULD HAVE TO BECOME PAVED. LIGHTING WILL HAVE TO BE PUT IN. ONCE WE INTRODUCE LIGHTING, THAT LIGHTING, THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET THE CALLS ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS SAYING THE LIGHTING IS NOW AT NIGHT, YOU KNOW, GOING INTO THEIR BACKYARDS. SO THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK INTO. THERE'S A REASON WHY YOU DON'T TEND TO PUT BUSINESSES RIGHT AGAINST HOUSING BECAUSE OF THESE ISSUES. WE DO TO THIS POINT, JUST BECAUSE OF THE CHARACTERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A SEPARATION, WHICH IS THE ALLEY. BUT ONCE WE'RE MOVING INTO THE ALLEY AND WE NEED TO CREATE LIGHTING THAT, WE'RE NOW FILTERING SOME OF THAT LIGHTING INTO PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS. SO QUESTION, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR MY KNOWLEDGE, IF WE WERE TO TABLE THIS, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT I CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT. WE CAN TRY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, I CAN'T. YEAH, OKAY. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO AFFECT THE, YOU KNOW, IRBY TO SO HE CAN SELL HIS PROPERTY. IT BENEFITS TWO PEOPLE SO THAT AND IT UNIFIES THE AREA TOO. SO YOU HAVE THIS EMPTY LOT. THAT WOULD BE NICE. IT WOULD LOOK BETTER BECAUSE IT'S PAVED. AND THEN YOU KEEP IT ALSO. RIGHT. YEAH. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT I CANNOT SAY YES, IT'S GOING TO GET APPROVED BECAUSE IT'S I HAVE TO COMPLY WITH OUR ORDINANCE. YOU NEED TO WORK AT IT. YES. SO BEFORE WE DENY SOMETHING WE CAN BE. SO WE ALL
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WANT TO DENY AVAILABLE. LET'S JUST TRY TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO DENY IT. WE JUST WANT TO TABLE IT SO THAT YOU CAN. YOU I CAN'T COME BACK WITH THIS. I CAN'T CHANGE THE ZONING. SO YES, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DENY THIS ONE IN ORDER FOR US TO CHANGE THE ZONING OR ELSE IT HAS TO STAY WITH THE ZONING. AND I CANNOT MAKE EXCEPTIONS TO THE ZONING, SO I WILL DENY IT. AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND WORK ON IT. SO YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WELL, WE'LL DENY YOUR PROPOSAL SO YOU GUYS CAN WORK ON IT, RIGHT? YES. YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CLOSE THIS SECTION OF THE MEETING. COMMISSIONERS MOTION TO DENY THERE'S A MOTION TO DENY A SECOND. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND, SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE AYE AND OBJECTIONS AND IT'LL BE TABLED SO THEY CAN WORK ON. YES. DENIED. SO THEY CAN WORK ON IT. WORK IN IT. SO. ALL RIGHT. NEXT CASE. MOTION CARRIES. CASE FILE NUMBER 2026-78-P. OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF SEVERAL COMMITTED CONDITIONS OF THE ESTATES OF SHILOH. 10TH FILING BEING A 2.38 ACRE REPLAT OF LOT SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE AND TEN. BLOCK 25 THE ESTATES OF SHILOH FOR FILING SECTION FOUR, BLOCK 41, TOWNSHIP TWO, SOUTH TEXAS, PACIFIC, TEXAS AND PACIFIC RAILROAD COMPANY SURVEY. CITY OF ODESSA. ECTOR COUNTY GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF RIVER OAKS DRIVE AND LAMPLIGHT LANE, COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 12 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT. NONE WERE RETAINED. THE OWNERS, THE RILEY AND BROWN PARTNERSHIP LIMITED AND CONSULTANTS LLC, ARE SEEKING APPROVAL OF A REPLAT OF FIVE LOTS INTO FOUR LOTS. THEY ARE REQUESTING TO SEPARATE THE EASEMENTS FROM THE LOTS AND ADD THEM TO THE ALREADY EXISTING COMMON AREA. STAFF RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REPLAT REQUEST FOR THE ESTATE OF SHILOH 10TH FILING, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS AS SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN. AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THE MAP. THERE'S A IS THIS A WHAT? I CAN'T READ THAT I'M SORRY, IS THAT I DON'T KNOW. IS THAT A DITCH? IT RUNS UP. IT'S IN OUR. I THINK IT IS. YEAH. I THINK IT'S A IT'S A DITCH. OKAY. YEAH. SO WOULD THERE BE AN EASEMENT FOR THAT? WHO DOES THAT BELONG TO. THAT WOULD BELONG TO. I CAN'T TELL IF IT'S A DITCH OR A PIPELINE OR SOMETHING. WHICH PART ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THIS RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN IN THE PICTURE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LIKE A DITCH OR LIKE, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR THREE BECAUSE IT WILL MERGE IT ALL IN ONE. I THINK THAT'S UNDERNEATH.
I THINK THAT IS IT UNDERNEATH. MARIA, CAN YOU HELP US WITH THAT ONE? I WAS GOING TO ASK MAYBE IT IS. I JUST CAN'T READ WHAT IT SAYS. I'M SORRY IT'S SO SMALL. CAN YOU READ WHAT THAT SAYS? IT'S NOT A PIPELINE. IT'S NOT A PIPELINE. OKAY. IS IT WATER? NO. SO, YEAH, I REALLY THINK THAT THEY'RE USING. IT'S A NATURAL DRAW. OKAY. LOOKING AT THE SATELLITE, THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. OKAY, OKAY. IT'S A SEWER EASEMENT. SEWER EASEMENT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THEM BUILDING ON THERE WOULD NOT. WELL, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED IN A WAY WHERE THE EASEMENT IS NOT IN THE WAY OF ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. NO. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA OPEN THIS SECTION OF THE MEETING TO PUBLIC SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST. PLEASE STEP FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS GRACIE RODRIGUEZ WITH LCA521 NORTH TEXAS, ODESSA 79761. SO THE LITTLE HATCHED AREA THAT YOU SEE RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH KIND OF SLANTED, THAT WAS THAT IS A SEWER EASEMENT.
IF YOU LOOK TO THE WEST OF THAT, ALL OF THAT BOXED AREA, THAT IS ALL THAT IS ALLOCATED FOR DRAINAGE. SO THERE'S NO WAY THAT ANYONE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO, TO BUILD ON THAT. AND I WANT YOU GUYS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS DECISION CONFIDENTLY. SO YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO CAUSE ANY HARM TO ANY SURROUNDING AREAS. NOW, WHAT OUR OWNER, OUR
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DEVELOPER HAS DONE IS HE'S TAKEN WHAT I THINK IS A LOVING PROVISION TO REMOVE THE REMAINDER OF, OF THESE EASEMENTS THAT ARE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THEY USED TO BELONG TO EACH OF THOSE LOTS. AND WHAT HE'S DONE IS HE'S REMOVED THOSE FROM THOSE LOTS TO PURCHASE.THAT WAY, THE OWNER, THE FUTURE OWNERS DON'T HAVE, THEY'RE NOT HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT EASEMENT SINCE THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO BUILD ON IT ANYWAY. I WOULDN'T WANT TO BUY SOMETHING THAT I HAVE TO PAY TAXES ON THAT I CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH. SO THAT'S WHAT OUR DEVELOPER HAS DONE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? HELLO. STATE YOUR NAME AND. HI, I'M MARK ANDREWS WITH WILEY BROWN FAMILY PARTNERSHIP AND WE OWN THE PROPERTY THERE. WHAT OUR INTENT IS, IS THOSE ACTUALLY THREE LOTS IN THE DRAINAGE CHANNEL.
ARE ON A. PIPELINE THERE. AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO REMOVE MOVE THE LOT LINE. SO THE PIPELINE IS NO LONGER A PART OF THOSE LOTS. GOT IT. IN THAT WAY IT'S MORE CONDUCIVE FOR SALE AND PEOPLE TO DEVELOP THERE LESS WORRY FOR THE POTENTIAL CUSTOMER ABOUT WHERE THEY CAN BUILD AND WHERE THEY CANNOT BUILD. AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CLEAN UP A LITTLE THERE. WHAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT WAY IN THE FIRST PLACE. OKAY. AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THE LOT WHEN THEY SEE THERE'S A PIPELINE GOING THROUGH THERE, THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED ANYMORE. SO WE'RE JUST MOVING THE LOT LINES WHERE THAT'S NO LONGER PART OF THE LOT. OKAY. SO TO MAKE IT MORE CONDUCIVE TO SALE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MAKES MORE SENSE. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THIS SECTION OF THE MEETING. COMMISSIONERS MOVE TO APPROVE. MOTION SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. INJECTION. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. CASE FILE NUMBER 2026-80-P. OPEN PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER APPROVAL WITH RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS. THE SECOND REPLAT OF DEER MEADOWS ADDITION. FIRST FILING BEING A 1.00 ACRE PLOT OF LOTS 12 AND 13, BLOCK ONE, LOTS FOUR AND FIVE, BLOCK FOUR, LOTS THREE, FOUR, FIVE AND SIX BLOCK SIX DEER MEADOWS ADDITION FIRST FILING PHASE ONE LOCATED IN SECTIONS 11 AND 14, BLOCK 41, TOWNSHIP TWO, SOUTH TEXAS AND PACIFIC RAILROAD COMPANY SURVEY. CITY OF ODESSA. MIDLAND COUNTY LOCATED AT 29072909 SANDBAR ROAD AND 3009 3011 DAMA DAMA ROAD AND 31053701310731093111 RUSSIA COURT, CITY COUNCIL, DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THREE NOTICES WERE SENT OUT. NONE WERE WRITTEN. THE OWNERS, D.R. HORTON TEXAS LIMITED FOR THREE. TWO LAND DEVELOPMENT GROUP, LLC AND CONSULTANT LCA ARE SEEKING APPROVAL OF A PLOT TO ADJUST LOT NUMBERS AT TEN FEET EASEMENT TO BE LOCATED ON BLOCK ONE BETWEEN LOT 18 AND 19, AND ADJUST LOT LINES TO LOT 73 AND 74, BLOCK FOUR AND LOT NINE THROUGH 12, BLOCK SIX. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REPLAT REQUEST FOR THE SECOND REPLAT OF DEER MEADOWS. ADDITION FIRST FILING, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS AS SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN. AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS AND THE LOTS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER IN THE MEETING, THE. SORRY, I'M JUST MAKING SURE BECAUSE THOSE SEEM TO BE SOME CORNER LOTS THERE. AND YES. SO THAT ONE WAS APPROVED. THE ZONING WAS APPROVED FOR THE LOTS THAT ARE THERE. IT WAS ALREADY. OKAY. THANK YOU. NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THIS SECTION OF THE MEETING TO THE PUBLIC.
ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST, PLEASE STEP FORWARD. THERE'S NOBODY THERE. CLOSE THE SECTION OF THE MEETING. COMMISSIONERS. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THERE'S A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR? SAY AYE. ANY
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OBJECTION? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. CASE FILE NUMBER 2026-79-P. MOTION TO APPROVE WITH RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS. THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF DEER MEADOWS. ADDITION. FIRST FILING PHASE THREE BEING PORTION OF A TEN OF A 107.19 ACRE TRACT LOCATED IN SECTION 11 AND 14, BLOCK 41, TOWNSHIP TWO, SOUTH TEXAS AND PACIFIC RAILROAD COMPANY SURVEY. CITY OF ODESSA.MIDLAND, TEXAS. CITY OF ODESSA. MIDLAND, TEXAS. GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF
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MELANIE LANE, APPROXIMATELY 150 SOUTH OF SANTA ISABELLA STREET, COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THE OWNER, 432 LAND GROUP AND CONSULTANT AMD ENGINEERING ARE SEEKING APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT TO CREATE 210 LOTS CONSISTING OF 208 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED LOTS, ONE PACK AND ONE COMMON AREA FOR DRAINAGE ACCESS. A UTILITY EASEMENT. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF DEER MEADOWS. ADDITION FIRST FILING PHASE THREE, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS, IS IT PUBLIC? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH ALL THE LISTED CONDITIONS A THROUGH L. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION. SECOND, THERE'S A SECOND DISCUSSION. NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. I ANY OBJECTION? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. CASE FILE NUMBER 2026-81-P. MOTION TO APPROVE WITH STAFF. RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS. THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF ROAD DEDICATION. PLAT OF DORADO EXTENSION BEING 9.49 ACRES. SITUATED IN SECTION TWO AND SECTIONS TWO AND 11, BLOCK 41, TOWNSHIP TWO, SOUTH TEXAS AND PACIFIC RAILROAD COMPANY SURVEY OF ODESSA, MIDLAND COUNTY, TEXAS. GENERALLY LOCATED NORTHEAST OF INTERSECTION OF DORADO DRIVE AND DEVON COURT COUNCIL, DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THE OWNER, DJ K INCORPORATED AND CONSULTANTS LLC, ARE SEEKING APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT TO DEDICATE 9.49 ACRES TO EXTEND DORADO DRIVE TO YUKON ROAD. THE PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY WILL GENERALLY BE 100FT WIDE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF THE ROAD DEDICATION PLAT OF DORADO DRIVE. EXTENSION SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS, THERE'S A MOTION.THERE'S A SECOND DISCUSSION. NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OBJECTION? SAME SIGN.
MOTION CARRIES. SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER CASES IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? NO. OKAY. SO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SORRY. THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
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