Aug 11, 2026 City Council OLD

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GLASSES. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ON? HERE WE GO. CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER A CITY

[1.Call to Order ]

COUNCIL MEMBER. THOMPSON. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER.

HANEY HERE. MAYOR. WE HAVE QUORUM. THANK YOU, MA'AM, IS OUR MINISTER RANDY UNRUH HERE TODAY. RANDY? IF NOT, REVEREND IRVING, WOULD YOU MIND SAYING A PRAYER FOR US TO START OUR MEETING TODAY? NOT MY FAULT. EDDIE PICKED ON YOU. HE SAID CALL ON YOU. SO IF EVERYBODY THAT'S ABLE, WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE? COME ON UP HERE TO THE FRONT MICROPHONE. BY THE WAY, I LIKE THAT SHIRT A LOT. GO, BRONCOS. LET US PRAY. MOST GRACIOUS GOD, WE COME HERE TONIGHT AND WE JUST TAKE TIME TO PAUSE. AND WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR THIS COUNTRY. WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU ARE DOING FOR ODESSA.

WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GUIDE THIS MEETING. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN AND AMEN. AMEN.

THANK YOU SIR. WE FACE THE FLAG FOR THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. TEXAS PLEDGE. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. PLEASE BE SEATED.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY PROCLAMATIONS TONIGHT. IS THAT CORRECT? NOPE. ROCKS? NO, NO.

[3.Citizen Comments ]

HELLO, MY NAME IS NOLAN POPE. I LIVE AT 2408 QUAIL PARK PLACE IN ODESSA. I AM NINE YEARS OLD, BORN ON FEBRUARY 27TH, 2017. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER CHANGING CITY ORDINANCE SECTION 2-1-11 KEEPING FOUL. I REALLY LOVE CHICKENS AND I HAVE TO ADMIT I HAVE HATCHED TWO AND NAMED THEM CHICK HOUSING AND CHICK WILLIAMS, NAMED AFTER WWE SUPERSTARS DANHAUSEN AND TRICK WILLIAMS. ONCE THEY GOT TOO BIG, THEY HAD TO GO LIVE IN GARDENDALE AND THAT MADE ME SAD.

I UNDERSTAND THE WORRY ABOUT CHICKENS BEING TOO MUCH TROUBLE AND HAVING TOO MUCH POPULATION.

I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE REASONABLE TO MAKE IT FIVE NON ROOSTERS. THEY GIVE YOU FRESH EGGS AND HELP YOU WITH YOUR BUDGET BECAUSE PRICES ARE UP RIGHT NOW. SO THEY GIVE YOU FREE INGREDIENTS AND YOU HAVE MORE MONEY FOR TAXES. THEY ALSO TAKE OUT INFESTATIONS OF BUGS THAT HELP KEEP YOUR GRASS TRIM. AND IT'S ALSO AN EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE FOR YOUR KIDS TO LEARN ABOUT LIFE CYCLES AND HOW TO TAKE CARE OF ANIMALS AND GIVE YOUR KIDS CHORES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU NOLAN VERY MUCH, NOLAN. YOUR LOGIC CANNOT BE DENIED. STEPHEN MITCHELL. I WOULDN'T WANT TO FOLLOW THAT. IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TONIGHT. MY NAME IS STEPHEN MITCHELL. I'M MOUNTAIN BIKE DIRECTOR FOR THE PERMIAN BASIN BICYCLE ASSOCIATION. I'VE BEEN MANAGING THE ODESSA MOUNTAIN BIKE PARK FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS AND BUILT THE TRAILS AND BEEN WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO MAINTAIN IT. I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT AREA TO US. BASICALLY, THE CURRENT LOCATION IS REALLY PERFECT. IT'S ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF TOWN. IT'S GREAT FOR MIDLAND PEOPLE. IT'S GREAT FOR ODESSA PEOPLE. IT'S EASY TO ACCESS. THAT'S IT'S ALSO GOT REALLY UNIQUE TOPOGRAPHY, WHICH MAKES IT UNIQUE. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 500 MEMBERS THAT USE THAT FOR MOUNTAIN BIKING, PLUS COPIOUS AMOUNT OF RUNNER TRAIL RUNNERS, HIKERS, BACKPACKERS, PEOPLE THAT ARE TRAINING. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT, THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. AND I HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THAT PARK AND LOOK AT THE VALUE IT HAS TO THE COMMUNITY. AND I DO WANT TO I DO APPRECIATE THAT AARON HAS CONTACTED ME, AND HE'S MADE IT CLEAR THAT Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT SOME ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS, BUT WE'D REALLY PREFER TO TO TRY AND MAKE THIS WORK IF WE CAN. SO JUST A FEW POINTS. YESTERDAY I WAS WORKING AT THE PARK AND THERE WERE SEVERAL PEOPLE UTILIZING THE PROPERTY, AND I WAS INTRODUCED

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AND THEN I MET ANOTHER MAN WHO HAD MOVED IN NEAR THE PARK JUST SO HE'D HAVE CLOSE ACCESS TO THE TRAILS. HE SAID HE'D RECENTLY FOUND THE LORD, AND MOUNTAIN BIKING REGULARLY HAS KEPT HIM STRAIGHT AND ON THE RIGHT PATH, AND HE HOPED IT WOULD REMAIN THERE. I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN INSPIRING STORY. AND THEN I SAW A FRIEND OF MINE WITH HIS 12 YEAR OLD GRANDSON WALKING THROUGH THE PARK. THEY BOTH HAD HEAVY PACKS ON THEIR BACK AND THEY WERE TRAINING FOR, FOR A BASICALLY A THREE DAY TREK THROUGH THE GUADALUPE MOUNTAINS. AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE MAIN THING ■I WANTED TO POINT OUT. I RAN INTO A 72 YEAR OLD TRAIL RUNNER. SHE WAS PRETTY INSPIRING TO. YEAH. BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT WE REALLY WANT TO TRY AND SAVE THAT PARK IN SOME FORM AND HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WILL TAKE A HARD LOOK AT IT AND CONSIDER THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU STEVE. THANK YOU ALL FOR SEEING YOU. SALLY RUSSELL. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT EMOTIONAL SUPPORT ANIMALS. THEY ARE NOT SERVICE ANIMALS. THERE'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GENRE OF THE TWO. EMOTIONAL SUPPORT ANIMALS ARE THERE FOR THE PERSON WHO NEEDS IT MENTALLY TO KEEP A STABLE LIFESTYLE. THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED IN RESTAURANTS. THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED IN GROCERY STORES. SERVICE ANIMALS ARE SERVICE ANIMALS PERFORM A TASK. HERE'S THE PROBLEM WITH ODESSA. AND IT STINKS. LANDLORDS AND HOA'S ARE MAKING PEOPLE MOVE, EVICTING PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY HAVE EMOTIONAL SUPPORT, ANIMALS, EMOTIONAL SUPPORT ANIMALS DO GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO NOT PAY A PET DEPOSIT. OKAY, GUESS WHERE THAT HITS THE POCKETBOOK? AS AN EMOTIONAL SUPPORT DOG OWNER, I HAVE TWO POODLES, MR. MIYAGI AND SID. THEY HELPED ME IN WAYS I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU. I HAVE LITTLE TO NO FAMILY. THEY ARE MY FAMILY. I'VE HAD TWO HEART ATTACKS. I NEED THOSE BABIES. AND YET THE HOA IS TELLING ME THAT I HAVE TO MOVE, EVEN THOUGH I'VE LIVED THERE FOR A YEAR. SUDDENLY THEY DECIDE I HAVE TO MOVE. OKAY, YEAH, I KNOW THAT'S NOT YOUR PROBLEM, BUT IT IS A PROBLEM. IT'S AN ODESSA PROBLEM. LANDLORDS AND HOA'S ARE GETTING AWAY WITH WAY TOO MUCH. Y'ALL AREN'T POLICING THEM. Y'ALL DON'T CARE. Y'ALL TAKE CARE OF THE HOMEOWNERS. BUT US RENTERS HAVE RIGHTS TOO.

AND WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED THOSE RIGHTS. EMOTIONAL SUPPORT ANIMALS ARE PROTECTED BY FEDERAL LAW, NOT JUST STATE LAW. I'M TALKING FEDERAL LAW. OKAY. UNDER THE FAIR HOUSING ACT, EMOTIONAL ANIMALS ARE PROTECTED. YET HOAS THINK THAT THEY CAN JUST DO AWAY WITH THE FEDERAL LAW AND THE STATE LAW. I THINK IT'S TIME ODESSA STEPPED UP AND PROTECTED THE RENTERS BECAUSE WE ALSO PAY TAXES. OKAY. AND YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL THOUGHT ABOUT IT, THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, THEY SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF THEIR OWN. AND THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE ALLOWING THESE BIG, BEAUTIFUL TREES TO DIE. THEY'RE ALLOWING THEIR YARDS TO BE DUST. DIRT. RIGHT. I ALSO LOOKED ON THE INTERNET. I LOOKED INTENSIVELY TO SEE IF THE CITY OF ODESSA COULD ALSO REQUIRE THAT A CITY REGISTRATION BE INSTILLED, IF THAT'S THE CORRECT WORD FOR LIKE $50 SO THAT YOU, AN EMOTIONAL SUPPORT ANIMAL HAS TO HAVE A MEDICAL LETTER. THE EMOTIONAL SUPPORT.

I KNOW I NEED TO GO AN EMOTIONAL SUPPORT. YOU KNOW, ANIMAL HAS TO HAVE. IT'S NOT ONE OF THOSE. AND YOU SEE IT ALL THE TIME ON THE INTERNET WHERE YOU CAN JUST SEND IN A FEW DOLLARS AND GET AN EMOTIONAL SUPPORT LICENSE. NO, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A HEALTH CARE. SO IF THE CITY OF ODESSA CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO, IF YOU HAVE AN EMOTIONAL SUPPORT, THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CITY REGISTRATION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MALCOLM IRVING. OKAY. I'LL.

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BUT MOST OF US DON'T HAVE AWESOME HEARING AIDS. BUT I DO PULL MY NOTES UP REAL QUICK.

THIS IS TECHNOLOGY, GUYS, I APOLOGIZE. THE CITY. SAY YOU GET UP HERE AND THEN YOU'RE PREPARED AND AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? WHILE I'M DOING THIS, I HAD A PRESENTATION. CAN YOU PLAY THAT WHILE I'M DOING THIS? OKAY.

THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. RANDY'S GONNA GUYS. THANK YOU. OUT HERE IN WEST TEXAS. WE TURN VISION INTO LEGACY. ODESSA. IMAGINE IF. FROM I 20 TO THE HEART OF DOWNTOWN, THERE'S A NEW DREAM WAITING TO BE FOUND. A GOLDEN GATE BENEATH THE WESTERN SKY. A SOUTH SIDE RADIATOR RISE. HOMES FOR WORKERS. BUSINESSES GROWING. STREETS ALIVE IN GOLDEN LIGHTS. GLOWING LOCAL STORIES, CULTURE AND PRIDE. WITH NO NEIGHBORHOOD LEFT BEHIND. IMAGINE IF. IMAGINE NOW WE LIFT THE SOUTH SIDE FROM THE GROUND, FROM I-20 TO DOWNTOWN. LET OPPORTUNITY COME ALL AROUND. HOMES AND BUSINESSES, MUSIC AND LIGHT. CHILDREN SEEING THEIR FUTURE SHINE BRIGHT. OH YES. SO THIS CAN BE OUR TIME. IMAGINE IF WE RISE A CREATIVE CENTER, A COMMUNITY PLAZA, SAFE NEW STREETS FOR EVERY FAMILIAR BLOCK AFTER BLOCK, PHASE AFTER PHASE WITH ACCOUNTABILITY LEADING THE WAY. RIGHT? ODESSA ROCK, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE TIDBIT. GOOD EVENING.

LET'S SEE, MAYOR HENDRICKS, MAYOR PRO TEM STOKER, COUNCILMAN MITCHELL, COUNCILMAN THOMPSON, COUNCILMAN KANEHL. IF I SAY THE WRONG NAME, PLEASE FORGIVE ME. COUNCILMAN HANEY, CITY MANAGER SMITH, MEMBERS OF THE ODESSA COMMUNITY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MALCOLM XAVIER ERVIN. I AM A TEXAS CERTIFIED TEACHER SERVING STUDENTS AT ODESSA HIGH SCHOOL ISD. MY ACADEMIC BACKGROUND INCLUDES BUSINESS AND MARKETING, STUDYING THROUGH JESSE H. JONES SCHOOL OF BUSINESS, MASTERS OF DIVINITY FROM SMU PERKINS SCHOOL OF THEOLOGY. I PREVIOUSLY SERVED AS CHAPLAIN IN THE HARRIS COUNTY PUBLIC HOSPITAL SYSTEM IN HOUSTON, AND TODAY I ALSO HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING THE NEWLY. AS NEWLY ELECTED PASTOR OF FREEDOM MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH. I'M THE FOUNDER OF THE AME NOW THREE LEGGED STOOL MINISTRY, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ENTERPRISE. BUT TONIGHT I COME BEFORE YOU WITH TWO SIMPLE WORDS. IMAGINE, IF I MAY, A HENDRIX. IMAGINE IF WE COULD STRENGTHEN ONE OF ODESSA'S GATEWAYS WHILE RESPECTING YOUR EMPHASIS ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND PUBLIC SAFETY, RESPONSIBLE CITY GOVERNMENT, MAYOR STOECKER, IMAGINE IF PUBLIC SERVICE OR PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS COULD BRING OUTSIDE RESOURCES TO THE TABLE SO ODESSA'S TAXPAYERS DON'T HAVE TO CARRY THE ENTIRE BURDEN. COUNCILMAN MITCHELL, IMAGINE WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN DISTRICT ONE. SOUTHSIDE ODESSA RESIDENTS, CHURCHES, BUSINESSES, SCHOOLS AND GOVERNMENTS WORK TOGETHER TO DETERMINE WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEED. COUNCILMAN THOMPSON, IMAGINE IF SOUTH ODESSA BECAME NOT MERELY SOMEWHERE PEOPLE DROVE THROUGH, BUT PART OF ODESSA'S ECONOMIC AND DESTINATION ECONOMY.

COUNCILMAN CARNELL IMAGINED PUTTING MEASURABLE OUTCOMES BEHIND THE VISION PROPERTY, INFRASTRUCTURE, BUSINESSES, SO ON AND SO FORTH. COUNCILMAN HAYNIE IMAGINED BRINGING TOGETHER INFRASTRUCTURE, FAMILIES, BUSINESSES, ENTERTAINMENT AND COMMUNITY

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IMAGINE IF YEARS FROM NOW SOMEONE ASKED, WHERE DID THE GOLDEN RENAISSANCE BEGIN? WE COULD ANSWER. IT BEGAN WITH A CONVERSATION. IT BEGAN WITH COLLABORATION. IT BEGAN WITH 90 DAYS, AND IT BEGAN BECAUSE ODESSA WAS WILLING TO IMAGINE WHAT WAS POSSIBLE. MAYOR, COUNCIL, GIVE US A LIAISON. GIVE US 90 DAYS. LET US DO A DISCOVERY. LET'S BRING YOU TO THE BRING YOU THE EVIDENCE, AND THEN TOGETHER, LET'S DECIDE WHAT DESERVES TO BE BUILT. OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CITY, OUR FUTURE IMAGINATIVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AARON. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

AND CAN YOU REACH OUT TO REVEREND? HAPPY TO AARON AND SEE IF WE CAN'T DO SOMETHING TO START. I LOVE THE IDEA. THANK YOU SIR, WE APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE TO OUR

[4.Consent Agenda]

[4.2.1 Presenter: Norma Aguilar, City Secretary Consider an ordinance to call and order the 2026 General Municipal Election for November 3, 2026, for the election of council members. (Ordinance – second reading and final approval)]

[4.2.2 Presenter: Aaron Smith, City Manager Consider an ordinance to call and order a Special Election to be held on November 3, 2026, for voters to consider propositions proposing amendments to the City of Odessa Home Rule City Charter. (Ordinance – second reading and final approval) ]

PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY OF ODESSA. HOME RULE CITY CHARTER. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO ORDER A SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 3RD, 2026, FOR VOTERS TO CONSIDER PROPOSITIONS PROPOSING AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY OF ODESSA HOME RULE CHARTER AND MAKING PROVISIONS FOR THE CONDUCT OF ELECTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEXAS LAW. A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN STOKER. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND

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[4.2.3 Presenter: Aaron Smith, City Manager Consider an ordinance to call and order a Special Election to be held on November 3, 2026, to submit to the qualified voters of the City the question of approving and implementing a City Council Resolution designating, approving, and adopting a venue project by consideration of a proposition authorizing a venue project and a venue project tax which will authorize imposition of an additional hotel occupancy tax to support the financing, development, improvement, operation, and maintenance of a venue project called the Odessa Sports Complex. (Ordinance – second reading and final approval)]

[5.Regular]

DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THE PROGRAM YEAR 2026 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY OF ODESSA. ANNUAL STRATEGY FOR INVESTING CBDG AND HOME FUNDS TO ADDRESS PRIORITY HOUSING, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC FACILITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE AND PUBLIC SERVICE NEEDS. THE PLAN IS IMPLEMENTED FROM OUR OBJECTIVES OF OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN FROM 2025 THROUGH 2026. ON OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF JULY 28TH OF 2026, YOU APPROVED OUR APPROPRIATIONS OF OUR FUNDS. SO TODAY I AM ASKING FOR TWO MOTIONS. ONE WILL BE TO OPEN AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING THE PROPOSED PROGRAM FOR YEAR 2026 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, AND TO APPROVE THE PLAN THAT WILL BE SUBMITTED TO HUD FOR FINAL REVIEW AND IMPLEMENTATION. ALL RIGHT.

BEFORE WE DISCUSS, LET'S LET'S OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK MAY DO SO PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES. DID YOU SAY WE NEED A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? A MOTION TO OPEN A. NO WE DON'T. NOT A PUBLIC. SO WE. WE JUST HAVE TO OPEN AND CLOSE. WE JUST HAVE TO OPEN. THANK YOU. OPEN A MEETING. WE HAVE OPENED IT. SO IS THERE ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? OR CBD COMMUNITY PLANS? SEEING NO ONE COME, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN, ANY QUESTIONS? I HAD A QUESTION ON. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PROGRAMS IN HERE IS THE LAWN MOWING FOR OUR OLDER ODESSANS. IS THAT THE SAME PROGRAM THAT I SEE KEEP ODESSA BEAUTIFUL OPERATING? IT'S IT'S DIFFERENT. IT'S A SEPARATE ONE.

AND SO HOW DO WE QUALIFY FOR THAT? SO ACTUALLY APPLY THROUGH OUR CBDG WEBSITE. AND THEN BASED ON. THEY HAVE TO BE IN THE LMI L I DISTRICT IN ORDER TO BE QUALIFIED TO QUALIFY. AND

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I JUST DON'T KNOW. I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND WHAT KEEPS BEING POSTED ON OUR FACEBOOK ABOUT KEEP ODESSA BEAUTIFUL PROGRAM, TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, RIGHT? OKAY. SO WE CAN, WE CAN DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THOSE KIND OF IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT REALLY THAT IT'S TRULY A VOLUNTEER PROGRAM TO WHERE PEOPLE BASICALLY GO TO KEEP ODESSA BEAUTIFUL. YOU KNOW, THERE WERE MADE AWARE OF PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN YARDS BECAUSE OF DISABILITY, AGE, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN WE PUT THEM IN TOUCH WITH PEOPLE WHO CAN HELP THEM. I JUST, I, I WOULD LIKE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW TO GET PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR BOTH OF THEM. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'LL DO. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR BOTH OF THEM. WELL, WE'LL PUT SOMETHING OUT. I GOT 920 ACTIVE MEALS ON WHEELS CLIENTS, AND ABOUT HALF OF THEM WOULD BE VERY GRATEFUL.

SURE. SO WHAT, WE'LL DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL TALK ABOUT BOTH OF THE PROGRAMS. WE'LL PUT IT OUT ON, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, ADVERTISE THOSE AND KIND OF MAYBE THE DIFFERENCES AND NUANCES BETWEEN THEM. AND HOPEFULLY WE DID A WAIT BECAUSE I THINK WE FILLED UP REAL QUICK, DIDN'T WE? TAMMY? YES, SIR. IS THERE A WAY ONCE SHE RUNS OUT, WE CAN TALK TO DISCOVER AND HELP HER OUT? IS THAT POSSIBLE? HELP ME DISCOVER.

I DON'T KNOW, SHE SHE IT. YEAH, IT GOES PRETTY FAST. YEAH. AND WE HAVE IT'S PART OF THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE CAN UTILIZE FOR THIS. IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN PUT MORE THAN WE WANT TO. WE'RE VERY TIED DOWN TO WHAT PERCENTAGE WE CAN PUT IN. YEAH. WE'RE HOPING NEXT YEAR TO BE ABLE TO APPLY. THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION FOR MORE FUNDS. AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON WE'RE WORKING ON OUR HOUSING GAP STUDY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF PROVE THAT THERE IS A BIGGER NEED, BECAUSE IT'S MY BELIEF THAT WITH BETTER REPORTING, AND I KNOW YOU AND I HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS, THAT IF WE ARE TELLING A BETTER STORY TO HUD ABOUT WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON AROUND HERE, WE HAVE A BETTER SHOT AT GETTING MORE MONEY INTO THE COMMUNITY. YES, THAT'S THAT'S OUR BELIEF AS WELL. AND TAMMY, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS. AND THE CENSUS DATA IS ONE THAT REALLY HURT US LAST TIME THAT THEY DID THE CENSUS, JUST BECAUSE IT WAS DONE DURING COVID TIME. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO TRY TO FIGHT IN ORDER TO GET IT UPDATED AND MORE ACCURATE. AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE IN THE FUTURE IF WE HAVE EXTRA FUNDS TO MAYBE KIND OF ADD TO THAT. AND SHE DOESN'T GET VERY MUCH RIGHT NOW. 20,000. CORRECT. YEAH. MAYBE WE CAN LOOK INTO KIND OF STRETCHING THAT OURSELVES, SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS LATER ON IF WE CAN. YES, SIR. WELL, THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS MAKING, THAT INSTEAD OF FUNDING THINGS THAT COULD BE FUNDRAISED FOR CAPITAL EXPENSES BY OTHER NONPROFITS, THAT WE SHOULD FUND OUR PROGRAMS THAT CAN'T BE FUNDRAISED FOR. WE HAVE FAVORING PARTNERSHIPS WITH PEOPLE LIKE THE NONPROFIT MANAGEMENT CENTER WHO COULD HELP OTHERS LEARN HOW TO FUNDRAISE. YEAH, DOCTOR, LAURA'S NOT HERE, BUT BUT I DO THINK WE'VE GOT A A HUGE OPPORTUNITY WITH THE CDBG FUNDING. I MEAN, EVEN DOWN TO REPAIRING INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE CITY STREETS AND PIPES AND ALL THE THINGS WE NEED. BUT WE GOT TO GET OUR CONSOLIDATED REPORT RIGHT FIRST. SO AND WITH OUR GRANT WRITER, WE ARE WORKING ON APPLYING FOR OTHER GRANTS JUST AS THEY COME UP. RIGHT. THANK YOU. ELIZABETH, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK AS LONG AS THAT'S BEING SEPARATED AND IT'S AN OBVIOUS TO WOULD BE TO LIST THE CRITERIA SO THAT CITIZENS KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO QUALIFY. I WILL SAY THAT ONCE IT OPENS UP, BECAUSE IT OPENS UP LIKE IN OCTOBER, IT GOES PRETTY FAST.

IMAGINE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, JIM. I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE

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OKAY. THEY DID COVER IT. RIGHT. THANK YOU. JUST MAKING SURE I KNOW WE MOVED. WE REMOVED A COUPLE ITEMS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT A MOTION WAS MADE TO APPROVE EVERYTHING ELSE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO SECTION FIVE. .1.2 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON IMPACT FEES AND THE COLLECTION RATES OF IMPACT FEES IN THE CITY OF ODESSA. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ARTICLE TEN DASH FOR IMPACT FEES OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ODESSA TO AMEND CITY ORDINANCES THAT ESTABLISH THE IMPACT, FEES AND COLLECTION RATE OF IMPACT FEES. AARON. YES, SIR. SO JUST WANTED TO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY BEEN SOMETHING THAT I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL OF YOU ABOUT, AND SOME OF YOU HAVE COME TO ME WITH THIS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF, HONESTLY, PROJECTS THAT HAVE REALLY KIND OF DIED ON THE VINE BECAUSE OF, OF IMPACT FEES. SO THE IDEA WAS, OKAY, WELL, LET'S SEE, HOW MUCH MONEY HAVE WE COLLECTED? AND ARE THEY REALLY WORTH IT? AND YES, TO DATE, WE'VE PROBABLY BROUGHT IN, I THINK IS IT CLOSE TO 14 MILLION OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS? IS THAT RIGHT, JOE? SOMEWHERE IN THAT AREA. JOE.

ROUGHLY ABOUT ABOUT IS THAT RIGHT? ABOUT 14 MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS. YEAH. SO SO THEY'VE CERTAINLY BROUGHT IN MONEY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT HAVE STALLED THAT WOULD BRING IN MORE THAN THAT OVER THE COURSE OF, LET'S SAY, 20 YEARS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE NOTICED THAT IT IS ALSO HURT SOME OF THE SMALLER FOLKS AS WELL, NOT JUST WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BIG BOX STORES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT WHEN, LET'S SAY A SMALL MOM AND POP IS OPENING A RESTAURANT AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY GET AN UNREALIZED HURDLE IN FRONT OF THEM FOR MAYBE 3 OR $4000 FOR AN IMPACT FEE. IT REALLY CAN BE DETRIMENTAL. A LOT OF CITIES ARE TAKING A LOOK AT THIS. MOST RECENTLY, ABOUT A YEAR AGO, LUBBOCK REDUCED THEIR COLLECTION RATE TO ZERO BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT IT WAS ALSO AN IMPEDIMENT. I FEEL THAT THIS IS AN IMPEDIMENT. AGAIN. I FIND MYSELF TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WITH COMPANIES, TRYING TO BRING THEM IN. AND THIS IS ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE A ROADBLOCK FOR US. AND I THINK THAT THIS WILL SET US APART. THIS WILL MAKE US MORE COMPETITIVE, CERTAINLY MORE COMPETITIVE WITH SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS WHO DO HAVE IMPACT FEES. OKAY, WELL, LET'S OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING THEN ON THIS ISSUE. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. IF ANYONE WISHES TO COMMENT MAY DO SO. PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE'LL SAY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, YOU TURN TO PAGE 148 OF YOUR PACKET.

IT IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND AND CALCULATE AND IT'S CRAZY. THE NUMBERS, I MEAN, I'M PERPLEXED HOW ANYONE EVER CAN USE THIS. THESE FORMULAS FIGURE OUT AND IT'S IT CAN BE A LOT OF MONEY AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. I THINK SOME OF OUR LOCAL LAND DEVELOPERS AND CONTROL WILL TELL YOU IT CAN BE IT CAN IMPACT A PROJECT. AND TO ME, WE'RE TRYING TO BE OPEN FOR BUSINESS AND BUSINESS FRIENDLY, MAKING FEES SO HIGH THAT THEY CHASE BUSINESS AWAY IS IT'S JUST A BAD IDEA. IT'S REALLY A BAD IDEA FOR BUSINESS. IF WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE NEW BUSINESS AND BRING PEOPLE TO ODESSA. SO. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE REASON IT MAKES SENSE, SORT OF.

BUT I THINK THE FEES ARE ARE COST PROHIBITIVE AND TRYING TO DO CERTAIN PROJECTS. AND SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THE WAY IT WORKS, SO I WOULD. ARGUE THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO TAKE THOSE DOWN TO ZERO QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS, COMMENTS. WELL, ALL I CAN TELL YOU, MAYOR, AND TO THE PUBLIC IS, IS THAT I WAS PERSONALLY WORKING ON A PROJECT FOR 600 ZERO FOOT RETAILER. THAT IMPACT FEE WAS $1.25 MILLION AND SALES TAX OVER A PERIOD OF TIME WOULD HAVE BEEN A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN THE $1.25 MILLION WE GOT ON THE IMPACT FEE ON A 60,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY. SO IT JUST IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. WE ALMOST LOST IT. I GOT A GOOD

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ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO 5.2 ON OUR AGENDA. REMOVE FROM THE TABLE AND CONSIDER APPROVING A PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE ODESSA DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND A MEDICAL. WE NEED A FIRST MOTION, I THINK, TO REMOVE IT FROM THE TABLE. YES, SIR. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE IT FROM THE TABLE. A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MITCHELL. MITCHELL SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN HANEY. EXCUSE ME. CAN YOU GUYS. Y'ALL LOOK ALIKE? ALRIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ALL RIGHT. IT'S OFF THE TABLE NOW. SO FOR DISCUSSION. MOVING MY BOOK. ALL RIGHT. GENTLEMEN, HAVE ANYONE HERE? TOM, COME TO THE FRONT? UNFORTUNATELY, MISTER BLACKSTONE COULDN'T MAKE IT TODAY, SO YOU HAVE TO TALK TO ME. SORRY ABOUT THAT. TALK TO US. BUT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET INFORMATION ON 5.2.1 IS A FACADE IMPROVEMENT GRANT. THE DOWNTOWN BUILDING FACADE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM WAS CREATED BACK IN 2016. YOU'RE FINDING THE PACKET, THE INFORMATION ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING. THEY THEY DID A FACADE ONLY GRANT FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FRONT OF THEIR BUILDING. IT'S A CLINIC OVER ADJACENT TO.

MC. AND LET ME SEE HERE, GO OVER THE NUMBERS AGAIN. THEY'RE DOING IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $6,663.73. UTILIZING THE FORMULA THAT ODC HAS WORKING WITH THE CITY, THEY WERE APPROVED FOR $3,998.24. THIS WAS APPROVED AT A JUNE 9TH, 2026 MEETING BY THE ODC BOARD, AND THEY'RE RECOMMENDING YOU APPROVE IT. I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION LAST TIME ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS LOCATED IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. IT IS LOCATED IN TIER TWO AT THE BACK OF THE SECTION REGARDING THIS ITEM, YOU WILL FIND A MAP THAT SHOWS ALLEGHENY AND AND WHERE THIS IS AT IN TIER TWO. I THINK THEY ARE IN THE. IF I REMEMBER THE 300 BLOCK AND EXCUSE ME, THE 5523 NORTH ALLEGHENY, WHICH IS CERTAINLY IN TIER TWO OF THE DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

AND SO THE ODC BOARD IS RECOMMENDING THAT THAT YOU APPROVE THEM FOR THIS DOWNTOWN FACADE. GRANT. THANK YOU. TOM. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? CRAIG. YES. SO. AND I CAN'T GET THIS THING TO WORK. RIGHT. SO. NOW THAT I'M GETTING IT PULLED UP, IT'S TALKING ABOUT FTES ON HERE. WE REQUIRING THEM TO CREATE FTES IN ORDER TO GET THIS GRANT.

PAID. YOU CORRECT. WELL, I'M ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M. NORMAN. I WERE TRYING TO GET THIS FIGURED OUT. PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT, AB MEDICAL AID MEDICAL ATTACHMENT B CHECKLIST. THE FOLLOWING IS A LIST OF DOCUMENTS. GUARANTEE GRANTEE SHALL PROVIDE ODC FOR VERIFICATION PURPOSES DEPENDING ON TYPE OF AGREEMENT. THIS LIST IS NOT INCLUSIVE. I JUST KNOW WE WENT THROUGH THIS WITH DOCTOR KIROS ON SECOND STREET, WHICH TOOK HIM OVER A YEAR TO GET HIS MONEY, BECAUSE WE WENT BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT. I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S A REQUIREMENT TO CREATE THE JOBS, BUT TO REPORT ANY JOBS THAT WERE CREATED THAT. YEAH. OKAY. SO THERE IT'S MORE KIND OF A REIMBURSEMENT GRANT AS THEY SPEND THE MONEY. AND SO THEY ONE, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE RECEIPTS THAT THE MONEY WAS ACTUALLY SPENT. AND THEN ALSO THEY HAVE TO, THEY WON'T RECEIVE MONEY UNTIL THEY GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. THAT'S ON PAGE ONE. 69. CRAIG

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SO MOVED. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HANEY. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MITCHELL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. THANKS, TOM. DON'T MOVE A MUSCLE. I WILL NOT, SIR. 5.2.2. CONSIDER RESOLUTION APPROVING A PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT BETWEEN ODC AND MARIA ELENA GONZALEZ, DBA MOSQUITOS, BURRITOS AND MORE. AND THAT ONE IS FOR A. BUILDING FACADE. EXCUSE ME. BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT.

AND YOU WILL NOTICE THEY ARE LOCATED AT 1444 SOUTH GRAND AVENUE. THAT'S THE ONE BIG CHANGE THAT THE ODC BOARD MADE TO THE DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. AS FAR AS RUNNING DOWN BOTH SIDES OF GRANT ALL THE WAY TO I-20, SINCE THAT'S HOPEFULLY DOWN THE ROAD. IT'S AN ENTRYWAY, A BEAUTIFUL ENTRYWAY INTO THE CITY. AND SO THEY WERE MAKING SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FRONT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PARKING LOT, AMONG OTHER THINGS. AND LET ME SEE, THEY MADE IMPROVEMENTS OF $71,500 AND FACADE IMPROVEMENTS IN A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF $14,018.38. I APOLOGIZE. EARLIER I SAID JUST INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THEY'RE BOTH. WHEN YOU COMBINE WHAT THEY QUALIFY FOR, IT WOULD BE A TOTAL GRANT OF $46,964.70. THE ODC BOARD APPROVED THIS ON JULY OR EXCUSE ME. YEAH, THE BOARD APPROVED THIS ON JULY 8TH, 2026, AND ARE ASKING OR RECOMMENDING TO THE COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR THIS ITEM ALSO. THANKS, TOM. GO AHEAD, MR. MAYOR. YES, SIR. THE IMPROVEMENTS THEY MADE AT THIS FACILITY, AT THIS RESTAURANT WERE UNREAL. THE WHOLE LIFE JUST CAME BACK INTO THAT PLACE DOWN THERE. IT'S. YOU COULDN'T SEE IT IN THE NIGHT TIME WHEN YOU GET GOING DOWN THERE AND STUFF. BUT THE THIS THIS IS WHAT THIS MONEY IS SET ASIDE FOR. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE KEEP SETTING THIS MONEY ASIDE TO HELP EVERYBODY THAT THAT DOES THIS. THEY JUST HIGHLIGHTED THAT WHOLE AREA DOWN THROUGH THERE BY DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN. WHEN HE FIRST SAID UNREAL, I WAS LIKE, OH, WE GOT A PROBLEM. NO NO NO NO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? NOT ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT. SO MOVED MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HANEY. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN THOMPSON. ALL IN FAVOR? SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION. UNANIMOUS. THANKS, TOM. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE. .2.3.

CONSIDER RESOLUTION AWARD A CONTRACT THROUGH THE SOURCEWELL COOPERATIVE PURCHASING PROGRAM TO MCKINSTRY ASCENSION, LLC TO PERFORM CITYWIDE STRATEGIC FACILITY PLANNING SERVICES AND APPROVING PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT WITH MCKINSTRY. I SAID THAT PRONOUNCE. YES, SIR.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. THIS IS A FACILITY MAINTENANCE AND CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT IS REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO MCKINSTRY ASCENSION LLC THROUGH A SOURCEWELL CONTRACT. THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE FACILITY ASSESSMENT STUDY AND CAPITAL PLANNING SERVICES. THIS IS THE SECOND ROUND FOR THIS ITEM. THE FIRST AWARD BY COUNCIL WAS MADE TO A DIFFERENT VENDOR, BUT THE CITY WAS UNABLE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEIR LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT. SO WE'VE CONTACTED MCKINSTRY ASCENSION, AND THEY

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GOOD EVENING. HEY, AARON. HOW ARE YOU? CITY MANAGER, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR, HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE EVER HEARD OF MCKINSTRY? I'M GUESSING BY THE PRONUNCIATION OF THE NAME. MOST PEOPLE THINK OF MCKENZIE, RIGHT? WE ARE MCKINSTRY. WE ARE. A 65 YEAR OLD MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL PLUMBING COMPANY THAT'S GROWN OUT OF SEATTLE TO COVER THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES. WE'VE BEEN IN THIS MARKET SINCE 2009. WE DO EVERYTHING FROM THE INCEPTION OF A BUILDING, DESIGN, BUILD, OPERATE, MAINTAIN. SO LIFE CYCLE MANAGEMENT, YOU NAME IT. IF IT'S IN THE IN THE FACILITY SPACE, WE HANDLE IT. WE LIKE TO SAY WE CAN DO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING, ALTHOUGH THAT USUALLY HAS A BAD CONNOTATION. BUT WE TRY AND USE THAT EXPERTISE ACROSS BUS TO DELIVER MORE COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTIONS FOR CLIENTS SUCH AS YOURSELVES. SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN THE NUMBER THAT SCOTT SAID EARLIER. BUT WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS A CITYWIDE FACILITY ASSESSMENT. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT IS NOT JUST A SNAPSHOT OF WHERE YOU ARE TODAY. IT'S A SNAPSHOT OF WHERE YOU WANT TO BE IN TEN YEARS. SO BUILDINGS AGE OVER TIME, AS EVERYONE KNOWS, EMERGENCY REPAIRS COST MORE. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT PUTS YOU AT RISK FOR BLOWING OUT YOUR BUDGET. NOT GETTING THE BUILDINGS THAT THE FUNDING THAT THEY NEED, THE RIGHT JUSTIFICATION, THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE YOUR RISKS ARE. SO WHAT WE DO IS WE TAKE A HOLISTIC LOOK AT & BUILDINGS AND EVALUATE THEM FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CRITERIAS, AND WE DELIVER THAT IN A COMPREHENSIVE MANNER THAT ALLOWS YOU TO BE ABLE TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE TO INVEST THE THE DOLLARS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR YOUR FACILITIES. THE MAIN THING WE FOCUS ON IS GOING FROM REACTIVE TO PROACTIVE. SO REACTIVE WITH, SAY, CHILLER FAILS, WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY. THERE'S A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. OH MY GOD, THE AIR CONDITIONING IS BUSTED. THERE'S A PREMIUM TO THAT EMERGENCY REPAIR, RIGHT? IT USUALLY BLOWS OUT YOUR BUDGET. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT THE BEST USE OF COMMUNITY DOLLARS. YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT THROUGH IT. BUT WE TRY AND DO IS HELP GUIDE THE DECISION MAKING AND PUT THOSE THINGS ON YOUR RADAR SCREEN SO YOU CAN PROACTIVELY MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AND GET THOSE REPAIRS MADE BEFORE THEY BECOME AN EMERGENCY. WE EVALUATE EVERYTHING FROM MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, AND CERTAIN BUILDINGS. WE'VE EVEN BEEN ASKED TO EVALUATE FINISHES. SO IN SOME OF YOUR HIGHLY COMMUNITY VISIBLE BUILDINGS SUCH AS COMMUNITY PLAZA, POLICE STATION, CITY HALL, BUILDINGS LIKE THAT. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS NOT IS NOT PIE IN THE SKY AS MAGIC. THERE IS A REPEATABLE, STANDARDIZED PROCESS FOR THIS EVALUATION. SO THERE'S WHAT'S CALLED A FACILITY CONDITION INDEX. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS A SYSTEMATIC WAY TO LOOK AT BUILDINGS. WE LOOK AT ASSETS IN THREE WAYS CRITICALITY CONDITION AGE AND REMAINING USEFUL LIFE. SO EVERY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, NO MATTER WHERE YOU GET IT FROM, HAS GOT A USEFUL LIFE. HOW YOU TAKE CARE OF THAT EQUIPMENT DETERMINES ITS ACTUAL AGE AND THEN CRITICALITY. SO WHAT HAPPENS IF THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT GOES DOWN? WHAT DOES IT IMPACT? RIGHT. SO LET'S SAY AIR CONDITIONING GOES DOWN IN THIS BUILDING THAT HAS A MUCH DIFFERENT IMPACT THAN MAYBE A MAINTENANCE SHED OUT SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? SO WE WOULD HELP YOU PRIORITIZE THOSE THINGS THROUGHOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE STUDY. AND I WILL LET MY COUNTERPART, RYAN, TAKE OVER. IF YOU MESS OUR NAMES UP, IT'S NO BIG DEAL. GOOD EVENING. RYAN JEWELL WITH MCKINSTRY AS WELL. BRIAN HANDLES A LOT OF OUR CONSULTING ASSESSMENTS, COMMISSIONING THROUGHOUT BUILDINGS. MY JOB IS REALLY TO TAKE THAT DATA AND HELP DELIVER IT TO YOU, SO YOU HAVE A BETTER WAY TO TELL A STORY IS HOW YOU FUND BUILDINGS, HOW YOU PRIORITIZE FACILITIES, AND HOW YOU ULTIMATELY ACCURATELY PREDICT YOUR BUDGETS. SO OUR

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WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT INVESTING INTO YOUR FACILITIES. SO WE ALWAYS SAY THAT YOU CAN EITHER PLAN FOR REPLACEMENT OR YOUR EMERGENCY FAILURES WILL PLAN IT FOR YOU. AND SO THIS ULTIMATELY IS HOW WE HELP YOU MAKE THOSE DECISIONS FOR THE LONG TERM. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'LL TAKE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT FACTORS INTO ACCOUNT AND HELP YOU GUYS DELIVER THE MAXIMUM ROI, MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS FOR EACH ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUAL PIECES OF EQUIPMENT AND OR BUILDINGS TO MAKE SOLID DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD. SO IF THE COUNCIL APPROVES THIS AGREEMENT THIS EVENING, OUR NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO KICK OFF HERE IN LATE AUGUST. OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO HAVE THIS STUDY WRAPPED UP WITHIN 90 TO 120 DAYS, AND OUR TEAM WOULD BE ON SITE FOR ABOUT THREE WEEKS IN A ROW, GOING THROUGH EACH INDIVIDUAL ASSET NAMEPLATES, EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN THINK OF, ESPECIALLY FOR YOUR MEP EQUIPMENT, AND THAT WILL HELP US DELIVER THE INFORMATION NEEDED AT THE END OF THE DAY TO PROVIDE THAT ROADMAP. WHAT QUESTIONS CAN CAN WE ANSWER FOR YOU? WELL, YOU HAVE ONE TEAM. I'M SURE YOU'LL HAVE MULTIPLE TEAMS OR WORKING WITH ONE TEAM MOVING AROUND. WE'LL HAVE ONE TEAM AND I BELIEVE IT'LL BE THREE FOLKS. OKAY. AND WE'LL GO THROUGH ALL THE PROCESS OF MAKING SURE THAT EMAILS ARE SENT OUT TO STAFF TO ENSURE WHAT BUILDINGS THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN. WHEN WE HAVE A DETAILED SCHEDULE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE. SO YOU'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHO'S GOING TO BE WHERE, WHEN. AND THEN OF COURSE, THEY'LL HAVE IDENTIFYING GEAR ON THAT, SAYS MCKINSTRY. AND WHATEVER PPE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY NEED. YEP. SO AND WE'LL ALSO BE INTERVIEWING STAFF WITHIN EACH INDIVIDUAL FACILITY AS WELL. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE CAN LOOK AT A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND WE CAN TELL YOU THE AGE OF IT, HOW LONG WE EXPECT IT TO LAST. BUT THERE ARE THINGS WITHIN FACILITIES THAT WE DON'T KNOW NOT LIVING IN THOSE FACILITIES LIKE THE STAFF AND YOU ALL DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT. LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. WHAT CAN WE DO TO OURSELVES? THAT'S MY QUESTION. WELL, I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I'M PUTTING ON THE SPOT BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA. WHY DO YOU WHY DO WE STUDY THIS? WHY DO WE STUDY THAT? I LOOKED ON YOUR DEAL. FOR EXAMPLE, BOILERS, CHILLERS, ROOF TOPS, AC FURNACE, A LOT OF STUFF. WHY CAN'T SCOTT DO IT? WELL, YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. AGAIN, A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING IS FROM 65 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. SO WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER INDUSTRY STANDARDS AROUND RS MEANS WE ARE DELIVERING THE DATA IN A FORMAT THAT IS NOT JUST A PAPER WEIGHT THAT'S GOING TO SIT ON YOUR DESK, BUT IT IS A REVOLVING DYNAMIC DASHBOARD THAT YOU CAN GO INTO AT ANY POINT. SO WHEN WE GET THE DASHBOARD UP AND RUNNING, IF YOU'RE COMING INTO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND YOU'RE MAKING ABOUT TO MAKE A DECISION, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ACTIVELY GO IN AND, AND LOOK THROUGH THAT DASHBOARD TO SEE EXPECTED COST INDUSTRY, WHAT WE EXPECT FOR THIS REGION. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF BENEFITS TO US BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.

ADDITIONALLY, MY GUESS WOULD BE IT WOULD BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR SCOTT TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT TYPE OF WORK DONE WITHIN THE TIME FRAME THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IT. IT IS A VERY BIG UNDERTAKING. AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE WE'LL HAVE THREE PEOPLE ON SITE FOR 15 DAYS CONSECUTIVELY GOING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY 8 TO 10 HOURS A DAY GOING THROUGH FACILITIES, CAPTURING ALL THAT INFORMATION. YEAH. SO COMPILATION OF THAT DATA. YEP.

AFTERWARDS, COUNCILMAN. SO WHY CAN'T WE JUST ENTER THIS IN AI AND GET AN ANSWER FOR ALL OF THE SAME THING, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE US $350,000 TO DO? WHY CAN'T WE DO THIS OURSELVES? YOU'RE NOT GIVING ME ANYTHING OTHER THAN YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE SAME EQUIPMENT. WE KNOW THAT'S BROKE RIGHT NOW. THE SAME EQUIPMENT. THAT'S OLD RIGHT NOW. WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THAT EQUIPMENT IS. WE KNOW WE NEED TO REPLACE IT. SO YOU'RE REALLY JUST GOING TO TELL US THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO AT THIS TIME FRAME? THAT'S THAT'S NOT WORTH SPENDING $350,000 ON. SORRY. COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

IDEALLY, OUR GOAL IS NOT AGAIN, NOT TO JUST TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, TOMORROW WHAT THAT ASSET LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. OUR GOAL IS REALLY TO HELP YOU PRIORITIZE IT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF YOU HAD THE FUNDING RIGHT NOW, YOU WOULD REPLACE ALL THOSE UNITS THAT YOU ACTIVELY KNOW ABOUT. OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO REALLY HELP ROADMAP THIS, TO MAKE SURE THAT

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I NEED SCOTT TO TELL ME WHAT'S IN OUR BUILDINGS. BECAUSE HE'S IN THOSE BUILDINGS. THEY'RE ALREADY DOING THIS WORK. I WE DON'T NEED AN OUTSIDER TO COME IN AND TELL US WHAT'S IN OUR BUILDINGS. AND THEN WE ALL KNOW IF IT'S TEN YEARS OF PLUS, IT'S PROBABLY NOT ENERGY EFFICIENT.

IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED SOMETIME. SO AGAIN, I'M ASKING THIS ONE MORE TIME. WHY DO WE NEED TO PAY YOU THE MONEY? WE NEED TO PAY YOU TO TELL US WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW? THAT'S MY QUESTION. DO YOU ALREADY KNOW IT? WE KNOW MOST OF THE EVERYTHING THAT'S FALLING APART.

WE GOT A MUNICIPAL BUILDING OVER THEIR BOILER. WE JUST REPLACED IT. SO DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT'S IN OUR BUILDINGS. WE BETTER KNOW WHAT'S IN OUR BUILDINGS BECAUSE WE'RE IN THESE BUILDINGS EVERY DAY. SO WE BETTER KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S IN OUR BUILDINGS, BECAUSE HOW ARE WE GOING TO KNOW IF SOMETHING BREAKS IN THERE? IF YOU HAVEN'T, DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT'S THERE. SO WE'RE ALREADY DOING THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO PAY YOU TO TELL US WHAT'S IN OUR BUILDINGS. AND WE SHOULD ALREADY KNOW WHAT'S IN OUR BUILDINGS. I'M SORRY. WE SHOULD ALREADY KNOW EVERYTHING. I THINK THERE'S A TRIAGE EXPERTISE, THOUGH, THAT'S HIDDEN IN THERE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND AGAIN, THERE'S THERE'S INDUSTRY EXPERTISE THAT WE BRING TO THIS PROCESS. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS MORE COMPLEX THAN, AS WE PRESENTED HERE TODAY, OF GOING THROUGH YOUR BUILDINGS AND JUST PROVIDING THAT LIST. AGAIN, OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE AN EQUATION THAT HELPS YOU BE ABLE TO TAKE THE DATA AND BE ABLE TO USE THAT AS A ROADMAP IN THE FUTURE. SO WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO REPLACE FOR LIKE FOR LIKE, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT ARE THE SOFT COSTS THAT ARE BUILT INTO THAT? HOW DO YOU PRIORITIZE THESE FROM AN ENERGY CONSUMPTION, FROM A PUBLIC FACING SPACE? WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT HOW DO WE TAKE THIS DATA AND BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR GRANTS? HOW DO WE BE ABLE TO FIND MORE DOLLARS FOR YOU OUTSIDE OF THIS? SO OUR AGAIN, OUR GOAL IS NOT TO JUST PROVIDE YOU WITH A PAPERWEIGHT, BUT TO BE A PARTNER IN HELPING YOU GUYS STRATEGICALLY PRIORITIZE AND PLAN AND BUDGET AND GO FIND MONEY, ADDITIONAL GRANTS, WAYS THAT YOU CAN CREATE EFFICIENCIES WITHIN YOUR FACILITIES AND THEN BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY THAT AS WELL. I THINK MY ARGUMENT THE ENTIRE TIME HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING'S BROKEN. I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT. BUT INSTEAD OF PLAYING WHACK A MOLE WITH IT OR WAITING TILL IT'S BROKEN AND GOING IN AND PLAYING FROM BEHIND, WE HAVE A PLAN AND WE HAVE A ROADMAP TO DO THAT AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, WHAT DO WE PRIORITIZE? INSTEAD OF WHACK A MOLE? AND AND AGAIN, WHAT YOU'RE VISITING ABOUT IS. THE STUDIES AND DATA THAT WE NEED TO BACK UP OUR GRANT ASKS THAT WE CAN'T DO WITHOUT IT. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN POUNDING MY FIST ON THE DESK ABOUT TRAFFIC CALMING AND TRAFFIC SAFETY, THAT WE CAN'T EVEN GO GET THE STUFF UNTIL WE GET THIS FEDERAL GRANT THAT APPARENTLY TAKES TWO YEARS TO GET, I DON'T KNOW, BUT INSTEAD OF OVERTAXING OUR FOLKS, I THOUGHT THE WHOLE POINT WAS BRINGING IN EXPERTS TO LET THEM.

AGAIN. I THINK THAT'S THE COMMUNITY'S ARGUMENT. EVERYBODY KNOWS EVERYTHING'S BROKEN, BUT HOW DO WE FIX IT? WHERE DO YOU START? AND IT'S BRINGING IN THE EXPERTS TO TELL US, ALL RIGHT, LOOK, SCOTT, WE LOVE YOU. WE KNOW, WE KNOW THAT WE NEED THREE NEW ELEVATORS. BUT WHICH ONE DO WE START WITH? FIRST, WE KNOW THAT EVERY ROOF, EVERY BUILDING, WE OWN LEAKS. BUT

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FACILITIES. RIGHT? IS THAT A LOT COMPARED TO THE CITY OUR SIZE, OR IS THAT AVERAGE? SEEMS LIKE A LOT TO ME. I'M JUST ASKING. I MEAN, ACTUALLY ACTUALLY, MAYOR, IT'S 51 FACILITIES. WE STARTED WITH 83, BUT WE PAIRED THAT DOWN. OKAY. BECAUSE I TOOK SOME OF THE PARKS OUT BECAUSE I KNOW JOHN IS GETTING READY TO DO HIS MASTER PLAN, AND WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF THAT STUDIED IN HIS MASTER PLAN. OKAY, SO I WAS GONNA BE BRINGING THOSE FACILITIES DOWN TO 51%. GOTCHA. THAT'S ALL BROKEN TO ROUGHLY HOW MANY SQUARE FEET DO YOU HAVE, SCOTT, OF FACILITIES, DID YOU GUYS 94,000FT■S. YEAH. AND SO WE BASICALLY ALSO HAVE, LET'S SEE, HOW MANY FOLKS DO WE HAVE IN BUILDING SERVICES? 14 SO IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE PER INDIVIDUAL THAT WE HAVE. SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT SCOTT AND HIS TEAM ARE FANTASTIC AND THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB WITH WHAT WE HAVE. MY CONCERN IS JUST THEIR ABILITY TO DO WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY DOING, WHICH IS MAINTAINING VERY OLD FACILITIES, AND THEN ALSO PUT TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE, WELL, GAME PLAN FOR HOW WE HANDLE FACILITIES MOVING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. SO SCOTT, AND WE KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT TO DO. WE WE KNOW A LOT OF THINGS BROKEN, BUT WILL THESE GENTLEMEN HELP YOU MOVE THINGS FASTER FOR US? YES. WHEN I COME WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, WHEN I COME TO YOU, I'LL HAVE A ROADMAP OF. THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO THIS FISCAL YEAR. THESE ARE OUR CRITICAL NEEDS, AND IT PLAYS INTO WHAT WOULD BE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, ULTIMATELY.

SO IT'S PART OF YOUR STUDY. LET'S JUST ASSUME FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT, THAT WE NEED A NEW POLICE STATION. DO Y'ALL SAY HOW MANY SQUARE FEET WE NEED? AND I MEAN, HOW FAR IS IT GOING? WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW FAR DO Y'ALL TELL US WHAT CURRENTLY IT WOULD JUST BE BUILDING SPECIFIC. SO WE WILL GRADE THE BUILDING BASED ON THE ASSET LIST, AND THEN THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THAT BUILDING. AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT NUMBER COMES BACK WITH, WHICH IS YOUR FACILITY CONDITION INDEX. IF THAT INDEX IS ABOVE A CERTAIN NUMBER, THEN WE WOULD RECOMMEND REPLACEMENT. IF IT'S BELOW, THEN WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY RECOMMEND RENOVATION OR A PRIORITY LIST OF BEING ABLE TO UPDATE THOSE ASSETS. A MASTER PLAN OUTSIDE OF THAT WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO. AND AGAIN, IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT BECOMES A PRIORITY, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO UNDERSTAND BEFORE MAKING ANY DECISIONS ON ASSETS OR RENOVATIONS OR REPLACEMENTS OF ANYTHING. THREE THREE BUILDINGS WERE ASKED OF US TO GO DEEPER THAN JUST MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, AND THAT WAS PUBLIC SAFETY, CITY HALL AND MUNICIPAL PLAZA. YES. SO THOSE WERE A MUCH DEEPER ARCHITECTURAL, ALMOST STYLE FEEL TO THE INSIDE, BECAUSE THOSE I KNOW ARE SOMETHING YOU GUYS ARE CONSIDERING WHAT REPLACEMENT COST WOULD BE TO DO AN UPDATE TO THOSE BUILDINGS. AND WE DO THAT TYPE OF WORK AS WELL. SO WE CAN EXPAND SCOPE, WE CAN REDUCE SCOPE. IF YOU GUYS SAY, HEY, LOOK, SOMETHING'S COME UP ON THE RADAR SCREEN IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE'D LIKE YOU TO DEEP DIVE DEEPER ON THIS. THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN, WE CAN WORK ON. THE OTHER THING IS THIS IS A THREE YEAR, TWICE A YEAR, YOU HAVE US FOR HOURS.

YOU PICK OUR BRAINS ON MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING. WHAT'S GOING ON? THIS STUFF IS BREAKING. WE NEED HELP TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO PRIORITIZE. WE ONLY HAVE X NUMBER OF MILLIONS. WE HAVE X NUMBER OF MILLIONS OF PROBLEMS. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST IMPACT FOR OUR COMMUNITY? OKAY. YOU KNOW, LIBRARY NEEDS SOMETHING. WE GO OUT AND FILE FOR GRANTS.

THERE'S GRANTS TO GET LIBRARY IMPROVEMENTS DONE. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A COUNTY'S PROBLEM.

YEAH, YEAH. WHEN YOU WHEN YOU HAVE THE DATA AND YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO BACK IT UP, IT ALLOWS YOU TO FILE FOR GRANTS MUCH QUICKER, RIGHT? YOU CAN ASSESS WHAT THE COST IS GOING TO BE. YOU HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO THEN GO DIG IT UP. RIGHT? SOMETHING IT BECOMES A VERY SEAMLESS PROCESS FOR THAT AS WELL. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? YEAH. JUST ONE. WHEN YOU'RE PASSING THIS THE END INFORMATION. SCOTT. YES, SIR.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PAPER BINDER LIKE THIS. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A DIGITAL ASSET WITH INVOLVED INFORMATION, A DIGITAL ASSET? BOTH. OKAY, OKAY. SO THE OLD WAY OF DOING ALL THESE THINGS WAS A WHAT WE USED TO CALL A FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT. THAT WAS A ONE TIME

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FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO 5.2.4. CONSIDER RESOLUTION APPROVING A TAX PROPOSED TAX RATE OF 0.471578 PER $100 OF TAXABLE VALUE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 2027, AND AUTHORIZING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE TO BE SCHEDULED AS REQUIRED BY LAW. MARK. COME ON FRONT. PISS EVERYBODY OFF WITH. I RECOGNIZED YOU'RE GOOD. YES.

I'M GOOD, THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. FIRST OFF I'M GOING TO SPEAK FOR THE HEARING CHALLENGED. I'VE BEEN COMING TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS SINCE I'VE COME ON BOARD. I'M SITTING IN THE SECOND ROW JUST NOW, AND I COULDN'T HEAR EVEN HALF OF THE CONVERSATIONS. SO I WAS THE FOURTH OF FOUR CHILDREN. I HAD TO SPEAK UP WHEN I WAS YOUNGER.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HEARS ME, AND IF NOT, I'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT. REPEAT IT. BUT I'M JUST SPEAKING FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE. I WANT TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON, AND I HAVE DIFFICULTY AND I'M WEARING HEARING AIDS, SO I'VE JUST PASSED THAT ALONG, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. ARE YOU SAYING FROM US OR FROM THE SPEAKERS AT THAT MIC? RIGHT. THAT WAY, THE WHOLE MIX. I CAN'T HEAR PEOPLE AT THE PODIUM AND I CAN'T HEAR YOU GUYS. AND I DON'T SAY THAT TO DENIGRATE THE PROCESS. I'M SAYING THAT I WANT TO HEAR WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED BECAUSE I WANT TO LEARN FROM WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED. AND I DIDN'T MEAN TO MAKE THIS A PERSONAL THING, BUT I CAN'T HEAR MOST OF WHAT'S GOING ON. THESE ARE DIRECTIONAL MICS IN PRIOR LIVES.

IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE IT RIGHT HERE, YOU DON'T HEAR IT. IF IT'S THERE, NOBODY HEARS IT BACK THERE. I JUST I JUST BRING THAT UP FOR THE BENEFIT OF PEOPLE WHO COME TO SEE THEIR COUNCIL IN ACTION. I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT MYSELF. I THINK THEY WOULD TOO. LET ME GET TO WHAT I'M HERE FOR, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO GIVE MY FOUR POINTS OF A PRESENTATION BEFORE GOVERNING BODY. I'M GOING TO BE PROFESSIONAL. I'M GOING TO BE ON POINT. I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF, AND I'M GOING TO BE SEATED. OKAY. WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY WITH THIS RESOLUTION IS TWO THINGS. ONE, YOU'RE GOING TO ESTABLISH A PROPOSED PROPERTY TAX RATE BEFORE ADOPTING THE ANNUAL TAX RATE LATER IN SEPTEMBER. WHAT THIS DOES IS IT WILL SET THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE. AND I'M JUST GOING TO DO WHAT YOU SEE IN YOUR INFORMATION .452293 PER HUNDRED DOLLARS OF TAXABLE VALUE WILL BE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE WILL BE 0.47157 $0.09 PER $100 OF TAXABLE VALUE. THE PURPOSE OF THE REVOLUTION THIS RESOLUTION WILL BE TO ACCEPT THE CERTIFIED NO NEW REVENUE RATE AND THE NO.

AND THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE. YOU WILL ALSO, IN THIS RESOLUTION, ESTABLISH A MAXIMUM PROPOSED TAX RATE, A MAXIMUM PROPOSED TAX RATE OF 4.471578 PER $100 OF TAXABLE VALUE. IT WILL ALSO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THE RESOLUTION. I'LL BE GLAD TO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MY MATH. RIGHT. THAT'S ONE 100 1/1000 OF A PENNY INCREASE. IS THAT CORRECT? ROUGHLY. ROUGHLY. AND OF COURSE, ALL THIS DOES IS SET A CEILING. THAT'S IT. SO THIS SETS A MAXIMUM CEILING. YOU COULD NOT CONSIDER ANYTHING HIGHER THAN THIS. YOU DON'T EVER WANT TO GO ABOVE THE VOTER APPROVED RATE BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE TO CALL AN ELECTION. SO THIS IS NOT ADOPTING A TAX RATE IS NOT THIS IS NOT SETTING A TAX RATE. THIS IS NOT ESTABLISHING. THIS IS

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OUR SECOND ONE WOULD BE SECOND READING WOULD BE ON SEPTEMBER 22ND. YES. THIS IS ONLY TO CONSIDER THE MAXIMUM TAX RATE. ANY QUESTIONS? YOU'VE ALL SAID THROUGH A EIGHT HOUR BUDGET MEETING ALREADY. WE'VE ALL HAD REVIEW HOPEFULLY OUR PACKETS WITH THE BUDGET. WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT'S JUST SUCH A IT'S A BIG BUDGET, $300,000 BUDGET. SO IT TAKES A LOT TO 300 MILLION, 300 MILLION. EXCUSE ME. I'M GOING TO SAY A FEW SHORT.

WHAT'S A COMMA AND A COUPLE OF ZEROS. COME ON Y'ALL, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? YEAH. COME ON 300 000. SO YOU KNOW YEAH, WE ALREADY SPENT THE BUDGET. A DECIMAL POINT HERE OR THERE. WE SPLIT OUR BUDGET WHILE AGO. RIGHT. ALRIGHTY, GENTLEMEN, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, WE NEED TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TO MAXIMUM TAX RATE. LET'S OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING. FIRST. PUBLIC HEARING? THERE'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT. IS THERE A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT? OKAY.

PUBLIC HEARING? NO PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD ENOUGH. THANK YOU. MUST APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. STEPS TO MAXIMUM TAX RATE OF 0.471578. IS THERE A MOTION? SO MOVED.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HANEY. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN THOMPSON. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION UNANIMOUS. THANKS, MARK. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. BE THE ONLY ONE. HEY, MARK, CAN I MARK, I'D LIKE TO CHALLENGE MARK. I'D LIKE TO CHALLENGE YOU WITH SOMETHING. FIND SOME MONEY SO WE CAN GET SOME DAMN GOOD SOUND ACOUSTICS IN HERE. I'VE COMPLAINED ABOUT IT FOR SIX YEARS. PEOPLE AND PEOPLE ONLINE. WE KEEP SPENDING MONEY ON THIS STUFF, AND IT'S NO GOOD BECAUSE WE DON'T GET A PROFESSIONAL IN HERE. IT IS. IT IS GOOD TECHNOLOGY, BUT IT'S A DIRECTIONAL MIC. IT IS NOT A GENERAL PURPOSE MIC. WELL, THEN I'LL SAY THIS THERE'S BETTER. WE COULD DO BETTER. HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. TOMMY, IF YOU CAN'T HEAR ME, I WANT YOU TO RAISE YOUR HAND. SO. WELL, I'LL TALK LOUDER TO BE HEARD.

NOW, CAN WE JUST. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO. YES, I AM. CAN WE JUST HIRE A COMPANY TO COME IN AND TELL US WHAT'S WRONG WITH OUR MIC? $300,000 SPENT $300,000 FOR SOMEBODY TO TELL US WHAT'S WRONG WITH OUR BRIAN AND RYAN? TOMMY'S IN THE MIDDLE. IF I RAISE HIS HAND, YOU SPEAK LOUDER, TOMMY. DON'T SCREW THIS UP. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE. .2.5.

CONSIDER RESOLUTION AWARDING A CONTRACT FOR REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS. NUMBER 26-62010-09. DUNAWAY ASSOCIATES, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN APPROVING PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT WITH DUNAWAY ASSOCIATES. MELISSA, THERE YOU ARE. AND, JOHN, HOW ARE YOU? A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS WAS ISSUED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PARKS MASTER PLAN. THERE WERE FOUR RESPONSES RECEIVED AND AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE EVALUATED THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA FIRM QUALIFICATIONS AND RELEVANT EXPERIENCE. PROJECT UNDERSTANDING AND METHODOLOGY. TECHNICAL EXPERTISE BY SCOPE, AREA, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY, PROJECT TEAM AND KEY PERSONNEL. SCHEDULE AND WORK PLAN AND REFERENCES IN PAST PERFORMANCES. THE TOP RANK FIRM FOR THIS EVALUATION WAS DUNAWAY ASSOCIATES. APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM WILL AUTHORIZE THE AGREEMENT OF $299,335. THE DELIVERABLES ARE EXPECTED WITHIN 14 MONTHS, AND JOHN IS HERE TO GO OVER WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING WITH THOSE DELIVERABLES AND THE PARKS MASTER PLAN. TALK TO US, JOHN. MAYOR COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING.

OUR. THE PURPOSE OF THIS MASTER PLAN REWRITE IS TO ALIGN OUR PARKS, RECREATION AND OPEN

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THERE ARE. IT. THIS MASTER PLAN WILL BE BUILT OUT IN MULTIPLE PHASES. DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS AND DEVELOPMENT OF PARKS, RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE. LONG TERM STRATEGIC PLAN.

WORKING WITH DUNAWAY ASSOCIATES IN THEIR PROFESSIONAL PLANNING TEAM AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS.

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE DID A MASTER PLAN FOR PARKS SYSTEM? THE LAST MASTER PARKS MASTER PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2021. OKAY. AND INDUSTRY STANDARDS, BEST PRACTICES. EVERY UPDATE EVERY FIVE YEARS IS, I THINK, WHAT THEY DID. THEY MET SOME GENTLEMAN QUESTIONS FOR EITHER MARISSA OR JOHN. WHY IS THIS GOING TO TAKE 14 MONTHS? THE SCOPE OF SERVICE. I BELIEVE EVERY PARKS MASTER PLAN IS A LENGTHY PROCESS JUST BECAUSE OF THE THE DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS AND BUILD OUT OF THE MASTER PLAN. SOME OF THE SOME OF THE THE SCOPE OF SERVICES OR DATA COLLECTION BASE MAP PREPARATION, INVENTORY, FACILITY ANALYSIS, POPULATION ANALYSIS, DEMOGRAPHIC TRENDS, STANDARDS ANALYSIS, BENCHMARKING, AND MORE. THERE ARE MULTIPLE. THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS, FOCUS GROUPS, TOWN HALLS, MEETINGS WITH STAFF, COUNCIL ADVISORY BOARDS, AND MANY MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY. ONE OF OUR. OUR TOP PRIORITIES IN THIS PROCESS IS GETTING COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. SO IT'S A LENGTHY PROCESS TO GAIN TO GET ALL THAT DATA COLLECTED, ANALYZE IT, AND PUT IT TOGETHER IN A STRATEGIC PLAN, LONG TERM STRATEGIC PLAN. JOHN, I APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON THAT. VALUABLE. ABSOLUTELY. 100%. THAT'S ONE OF OUR TOP PRIORITIES. WE WANT WE WANT STAFF FEEDBACK, COUNCIL FEEDBACK, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY THOUGH? SO WE'LL ENGAGE WITH TOWN HALLS, FOCUS GROUPS, RIGHT? BUT HOW IS HOW ARE THEY GOING TO KNOW ABOUT IT? SO WE WILL ADVERTISE, WE'LL WE'LL MAKE SURE WE'LL ADVERTISE THROUGH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM. WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEIR BUDGET. ARE WE GOING TO SPEND MONEY. SO THERE WILL BE WE'LL BE WE'LL PUT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA THROUGH OUR TEAM. BUT THE THE. IT WILL BE IN THIS IN THE COST OF THIS PROPOSAL IS ADVERTISING OF THESE OF SOME OF THESE FOCUS GROUPS, TOWN HALLS. WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO ADVERTISE AS WELL. I THINK ONE OF OUR ONE OF OUR GREAT REACHES IN THE COMMUNITY IS OUR RECREATION EVENTS. WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS ATTEND, SO WE WILL BE ADVERTISING THERE AS WELL. I THINK WE HAVE MANY AVENUES AND RESOURCES THAT WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS. MY CONCERN IS WE'VE DONE MASTER PLANS BEFORE, AND IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THEY WEREN'T FOLLOWED. WE JUST HEARD THE PREVIOUS GROUP TALK ABOUT THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ON BOARDING THAT YOU CAN EVERYTHING YOU CHANGE IT UPDATES AUTOMATICALLY. IT DOES THIS PROJECT HAVE THAT TYPE OF, OF, OF INTERACTIVE SYSTEM THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY, IN REAL TIME KEEP UP WITH WHAT NEEDED, WHAT THEY RECOGNIZE AS NEEDS. WE ACTUALLY DID IT. ABSOLUTELY. SO THERE WILL BE A STORY, A STORYBOOK MAP GIS YOU'LL BE ABLE TO IT'S AN INTERACTIVE MAP.

SO THERE WILL BE A PHYSICAL COPY. BUT AS WELL AS ONLINE WEBSITE, YOU CAN GO TO EACH PARK, CLICK ON THE AMENITIES, LOOK AT THE PLAN FOR THAT PARK THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY SO IT'LL BE ONLINE AS WELL AS A PHYSICAL COPY OF A PLAN. OKAY, OKAY. SO EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST NAMED THAT WAY IS GOING TO DO. THE CITY DOES THIS. WE HAVE OUR OWN GIS. WE HAVE OUR OWN COMMUNICATION. WHY AREN'T WE USING THEM TO DO ALL OF THIS INSTEAD OF PUTTING THIS OUT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO THIS? WHEN WE HAVE THIS SET IN PLACE, IT'S THE SAME QUESTION I HAD OVER HERE. WHY ARE YOU PUTTING THIS OUT WHEN WE CAN DO THIS IN-HOUSE? ABSOLUTELY. I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S MULTIPLE REASONS. ONE IS JUST LIKE OUR DAILY OPERATIONS, WE'RE MULTI WE'RE SHARING EQUIPMENT WITH DIFFERENT CREWS AND DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. OUR STAFFING LEVEL IS OPERATIONAL, BUT FOR US TO TAKE ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS, WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT AN EXTENDED LENGTH OF TIME TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE. AND ALL THE DELIVERABLES THAT THAT ARE PROPOSED. I THINK IF WE COULD DO IT, IF WE GOT TOGETHER. BUT I THINK THAT'S ALL WE WOULD DO FOR A LONG TIME. OKAY, SO YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION. ONE PART OF IT, BUT AGAIN, WHY HAVEN'T

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DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING WITH OUR MASTER PLAN, CHRIS? WHAT? EVERY TIME WE HAVE A MASTER PLAN, IT NEVER GETS FOLLOWED. SO I, I THINK OUR, OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN, I THINK IT DID SERVE A GREAT PURPOSE. WE DID ACCOMPLISH SEVERAL THE TOP STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, INCLUDING A SPORTS COMPLEX. BUT I THINK OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THE COMMUNITY NEEDS HAVE CHANGED.

ODESSA HAS GROWN AND IS GROWING IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE SERVICE GAPS. WE'RE REALLY RELYING ON DUNAWAY FOR THEIR THEIR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, THEIR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS. WE'RE REALLY THEY WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM ABSOLUTELY DAY IN AND DAY OUT ON THIS PROJECT. BUT WE'RE, WE'RE RELYING ON THEM FOR THEIR PROFESSIONAL SERVICE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING GOOD DECISIONS THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS AND THAT LONG TERM PLAN ALIGNS TO THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN. AND IT IS THERE'S AN ACTION PLAN THAT'S FOLLOWABLE. OKAY, SO ALL OF US, I KEEP LOOKING AT THIS BUDGET BOOK THEY GAVE ME AND I KEEP WHERE ARE WE GOING TO FIND ALL THIS MONEY? THAT'S WHAT I KEEP HEARING. WHERE ARE WE GOING TO FIND ALL THIS MONEY? YEAH. OKAY. SO IF THERE'S A DOWNTURN IN THE ECONOMY, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO FIND ALL THIS MONEY? DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SURE. AND SO WE'RE NOT LIKE, CAN I FINISH? SO WE'RE NOT THINKING OF WHAT'S OUR NEXT STEP. WHY AREN'T WE USING WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? WHY? WHY ARE WE GOING OUTSIDE TO DO COMMUNICATIONS WHEN WE HAVE A COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT? THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IN-HOUSE. OKAY. BEFORE WE PUT A NUMBER TOGETHER AND SEND OUT A BIG RFQ, CAN WE DO THIS? CAN WE DO THIS PART? THIS IS WHAT THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. THIS IS WHY YOU GUYS ARE HERE TO DO THIS PART, TO MAKE THIS ASSESSMENT BEFORE YOU BRING IT TO US.

AGAIN, I'M HAVING TO LOOK AT NUMBERS AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHY WE GOT TO RAISE TAXES. IF WE HAVE TO RAISE TAXES TO COVER SOMETHING, DO I HAVE TO GIVE MY CONSTITUENTS SOMETHING OUT HERE TO GO BY? OKAY, WE HAVE BUDGETS FOR THE CITY. WE HAVE BUDGETS FOR THE POLICE, FIRE, ALL OF THIS. THAT'S REALLY HIGH. THEY NEED A FIRE STATION. THEY NEED A LOT OF THIS. DO YOU SEE WHAT WE'RE SAYING? AND ALL I'M DOING IS QUESTIONING, WHY ARE WE SPENDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY WHEN WE HAVE THIS ALREADY? THAT WAS JUST MY QUESTION. OKAY. THAT'S IT. I'M I'M REALLY PUSHING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I'M NOT A BEARER OF BAD NEWS. BUT I'M TELLING YOU, YOU WE GOT TO START WATCHING WHERE WE'RE SPENDING EVERY NICKEL, DIME AND PENNY. OKAY, THAT'S THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. YOU'VE GOT TO START WATCHING WHERE YOU'RE SPENDING IT AT. ABSOLUTELY. WE TAKE OUR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY VERY SERIOUSLY. I FEEL LIKE WITHIN OUR, OUR PARKS OPERATION BUDGET, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE DONE VERY WELL TO OPERATE WITHIN THAT AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. THERE WILL BE FINANCIAL ASSESSMENTS WITHIN THIS STUDY AS WELL. AND I'M WITH YOU 100%. I, WE ARE WE ARE ABSOLUTELY AWARE OF THE BUDGET. AND THIS IS ALSO A TOOL THAT'S NECESSARY FOR, FOR INSTANCE, GRANT FUNDING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE AN UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PARKS MASTER PLAN IF WE'RE GOING TO QUALIFY FOR GRANTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. YOUR PERCENT. WELL, I, I AM CURIOUS BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, ALMOST IN THE SAME VEIN, Y'ALL HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB KIND OF KEEPING US KEEPING PACE A LITTLE BIT. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF PROGRESS WITH NEW PARKS AND GREAT NEW EQUIPMENT. I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S BEEN UPDATES TO THINGS. AND I, YOU KNOW, I'LL SEE THINGS DRIVING AROUND, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M CURIOUS WHAT THIS IS GOING TO TELL US. AND I SEE TIM HERE. I'D LIKE TO, IF HE DOESN'T MIND, ASK HIM A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALMOST WHAT WE GET OUT OF THIS.

ARE WE GOING TO BE GETTING, YOU KNOW, A ROADMAP TO OUR POINT HERE, THE GREAT NEW THINGS YOU CAN PUT IN PARKS THAT THE SEVEN OF US UP HERE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT TO PUT IN A PARK. THAT'S YOUR I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS AND PARK PEOPLE AND COMMUNITY INPUT AND

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THAT'S WHY I WANTED YOU TO COME UP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS IS BEYOND JUST WE GET IT. THE PARKS SUCK. LET'S DO BETTER, WHICH YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, BY THE WAY.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT, BUT IT'S AGAIN, WE GET IT. EVERYTHING'S BROKEN. IT'S BEEN BROKEN FOR 30 YEARS. WE'RE TRYING TO FIX IT. AND THIS IS PART OF IT. AND TO THAT POINT, COUNCILMAN, YOU KNOW, LARRY BELL HAS GIVEN US PROPERTY UP AT PARKSVILLE, ONE END OF IT FOR A FUTURE HOME OF A PARK FOR THE CITY OF ODESSA, WHICH HAS BEEN SITTING THERE FOR TEN YEARS. IT'S BEEN ON THE MASTER PLAN, WHICH HAS GONE NOWHERE. AND THE PEOPLE, THE RESIDENTS UP THERE, KIND OF HOT ABOUT IT. I DON'T BLAME THEM. I HEAR A LOT ABOUT IT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST STUFF WE GOT TO ADDRESS. YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU. AND THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSES UP THERE AND MORE COMING.

THAT'S PART OF MY POINT. I MEAN, I'M JUST I'M 1010 000 PLUS HOUSES AND WE'VE BUILT WHAT FOR LITTLE POCKET PARKS. YEAH, YEAH. SO CHRIS GO AHEAD. THIS WASN'T ANYTHING ON THE CUT ON ANY Y'ALL YOU OR SCOTT. THIS IS NOT WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT. THIS IS ABOUT IS THERE OTHER PLACES WE SHOULD BE USING BEFORE WE START DOING THESE BIG STUDIES, BEFORE WE START SPENDING THIS KIND OF MONEY JUST TO GET A STUDY DONE? BECAUSE MY, MY PEOPLE SAY YOU STUDIED IT ONCE BEFORE AND IT WENT NOWHERE AND YOU'RE STUDYING IT AGAIN, IS IT NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE AGAIN? DON'T KNOW. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I HEAR THIS I, I DID A LOT OF LISTENING THIS WEEKEND AND A LOT OF WALKING. SO I WALKED IN 90 DEGREE PLUS DEGREE TEMPERATURES THIS WEEKEND LISTENING TO MY CONSTITUENTS AND THEY'RE NOT HAPPY. SO THEY ARE MY CONSTITUENTS. SO I'M RELAYING WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. OKAY, SO WE DO A STUDY AND THEN IT GOES NOWHERE. AND THEN WE DO ANOTHER STUDY AND IT GOES NOWHERE. SO WE GET A PIECE OF SOMETHING AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.

AND I WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT THIS. WE GOT TO FIND THE MONEY TO SPEND FOR THIS. WE'VE GOT TO FIND THAT MONEY. YOU'RE ASKING THIS GROUP RIGHT HERE WHO GETS PAID $10 A MEETING TO SIT UP HERE AND TRY TO FIND MONEY TO SPEND THAT WE DON'T HAVE? WE HAVE TO TRY TO FIND 4% TO GIVE EVERYBODY A RAISE. WE HAVE TO FIND THIS MONEY. IT JUST DOESN'T APPEAR ON THE TREE.

WE, WE, WE AIN'T THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WE DON'T GET THE WE DON'T GET TO MAKE THE MONEY HERE, BUT WE HAVE TO WATCH WHAT WE'RE SPENDING TOO. SO WE HAVE BIG EXPENSES COMING OTHER THAN PARKS AND OTHER THAN THIS. SO YOURS YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE PARKS. HE'S WORRIED ABOUT THE BUILDINGS. WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT IT ALL. AND YOU GUYS DON'T GIVE US ENOUGH CREDIT BECAUSE WE REALLY WORRY ABOUT EVERYTHING. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ANSWER TO PEOPLE. AND ONE THING IS, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE A BIG BANKRUPT ON THIS CITY. OKAY? I DON'T WANT TO SPEND THIS OUT OF ANYTHING. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE MONEY FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL AND THE NEXT ONE AFTER

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OKAY? THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT NEEDS TO GET FIXED IN THIS TOWN, AND WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT MY DISTRICT. EVERYBODY UP HERE HAS TO THINK ABOUT THEIR DISTRICT AND WHAT'S GOING ON. OKAY. IT'S NOT JUST SO WHEN WE'RE ASKING, IS THIS MONEY GOING TO BE WELL SPENT? OR IS IT GOING TO BE JUST ANOTHER STUDY? I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE'RE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER, WHETHER IT'S UTILITIES, BUILDING SERVICES, PARKS. AND WE DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S IT, YOU HAVE IT ALL, Y'ALL HAVE IT ALL.

AND WE'RE IN THIS THING TOGETHER. BUT IT IS DEFINITELY EVERY DOLLAR. WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT WHERE IT GOES. THIS, THIS, THE 299,000 IS WITHIN OUR PARKS BUDGET. SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR THIS PROJECT. AND WE WE ARE ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED TO SEEING THROUGH THIS STRATEGIC PLAN AND MAKING QUALITY OF LIFE IMPROVEMENTS 100%. I UNDERSTAND THAT'S IN YOUR BUDGET, BUT IF I HAVE A BUSTED LINE THAT NEEDS YOUR BUDGET, I'M GOING TO TAKE YOUR MONEY. I'M SORRY. THAT MAKES SENSE. YES, SIR. OKAY. I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY FOR THE RECORD, MY $10 GETS AUTOMATICALLY DEPOSITED INTO THE PARKS FOUNDATION. I WANT TO SAY. I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, AND I DON'T GET A LOT IN MY DISTRICT, BUT JOHN IS TAKING CARE OF FOUR PARKS. I BROUGHT TO HIS ATTENTION. AND RIGHT NOW, THOSE PARKS ARE 100% BETTER THAN THEY WERE. AND I WANT TO SAY THIS, I HAVE THESE GUYS UP HERE. THE REASON WE BEHIND WE BEHIND IN ODESSA, WE SAY IT ALL THE TIME, AND IT'S BECAUSE NOBODY WOULD MAKE A DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD TO HELP THE CITY KEEP GOING. SO I REALLY THINK THAT US GUYS UP HERE NOW, WE LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING. AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT STEP IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO GROW. SO IT HADN'T HAPPENED IN THE LAST 20 YEARS. I AGREE WITH YOU. I LIKE IT AND I KNOW WE HAVE TO FIND MONEY, BUT I JUST REALLY THINK WE CAN FIND THE MONEY. AND I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE DON'T THE NEXT CREW GOING TO BE IN THE SAME PROBLEM WE ARE. WELL, THEN NOBODY DO NOTHING. THEY DREW A PICTURE, BUT NOBODY NEVER TURNED THE PAGE TO SEE WHAT THE NEXT PICTURE LOOKED LIKE, YOU KNOW? SO I AGREE WITH IT AND I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. AND I HOPE THE REST OF THE GUYS HELP MOVE FORWARD. JUST LIKE AND I KNOW MR. THOMPSON'S AREA IS GROWING AND WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, BUT WE CAN'T FORGET ABOUT THE OTHER AREAS IN THE CITY OF ODESSA. BUT I AGREE WITH YOU. I HOPE IT HAPPENS FOR YOU. AND LET'S JUST CONTINUE AND LET'S MOVE FORWARD. DON'T LET'S PUT IT ON THE SHELF, GUYS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE PAST YEARS. SO LET ME JUST SAY FOR THINGS, I GET YOUR FRUSTRATION WITH PLANS SITTING ON THE SHELF AND MANY CITIES THAT I'VE BEEN IN. I FIND THOSE THINGS THAT HAVE JUST BEEN SITTING ON THE SHELF HERE. I BELIEVE THIS TEAM IS DEDICATED TO MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE PLANS AND USING THESE AS TOOLS TO, TO BUILD A BETTER COMMUNITY.

AND YES, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD DECISION MAKING, RIGHT? BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE THINGS WILL MAKE THEMSELVES INTO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. AND THOSE ARE GOING TO BE BUDGET DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE. AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE EASY. THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS OUT THERE. PARKS IS ONE OF THEM FOR SURE. AS OUR STREETS AND AS IS POLICE AND AS IS FIRE, AND AS IS ALL THE OTHER SERVICES THAT SUPPORT THEM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S FINANCE OR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS. SO BUT HAVING A GOOD HANDLE ON WHAT THE THINGS ARE AND THE PRIORITIES IS, IS, IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT PLANNING TOOL. YEAH. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT, I'D ACCEPT A MOTION. SO MOVED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH DUNAWAY IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $299,335. COUNCILMAN STOKES, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? OH, I THINK THOMPSON WANTED THAT. COUNCILMAN THOMPSON HAS A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN. SEE, YOU.

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YOU MIGHT WANT TO CATCH A CLUE THAT NEXT YEAR. I WOULDN'T BRING UP ANY ITEMS FOR THE BUDGET AFTER WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S AN UGLY TIME, GUYS. I KNOW EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT IT AND IT'S JUST FRUSTRATING. WE WANT TO DO SO MUCH AND IT'S JUST CONSTRAINED BY SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. LET'S GO TO SECTION 5.3. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ALL ODESSA COMMISSIONS AND BOARD MEMBERS, INCLUDING APPOINTMENT, REAPPOINTMENT, REVIEW AND MODIFICATION, INCLUDING LET'S START WITH AMY BELL SPORTS FOUNDATION. STEVE, I'M STILL WORKING ON THAT ONE. IT'S HARD TO DO. I AGREE, NOBODY'S GOT THE TIME, BUT I'M I'LL GET SOMEBODY. OKAY. ANIMAL SHELTER. WE HAVE ANY PROGRESS THERE. WHAT WAS I PUT ON JENNIFER.

THIS IS FOR. I HAVEN'T RECEIVED AN APPLICATION. OKAY. YEAH. DO WE WANT TO APPOINT HER AND GET AN APPLICATION? WHATEVER COUNCIL WISHES. WHAT DO YOU GOT, GREG? TALK TO JENNIFER. HOPGOOD EXPRESSED INTEREST IN SERVING ON THAT BOARD, AND SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO TURN IN A APPLICATION, BUT SOUNDS LIKE SHE HADN'T. SO WHICH FOR THE FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER. ANIMAL SHELTER. YEAH. ANIMAL CONTROL. GOTCHA. SO I WAS ASKING IF WE NEEDED AN APPLICATION FIRST OR IF WE NEEDED TO APPOINT AND THEN GET AN APPLICATION. AND THEN CITY SECRETARY SAID, IT'S UP TO US. SO WHATEVER, WHATEVER ANYBODY WANTS TO DO, CONTACT INFORMATION. YES. SO I WOULD NOMINATE JENNIFER HOPGOOD TO SERVE ON THAT BOARD. YOU ALL KNOW HER. SHE'S AN ASSOCIATE JUDGE WITH US. SO I THINK SHE WOULD BE HELPFUL IN THAT REGARD. THERE'S A MOTION TO APPOINT JENNIFER HOPGOOD. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CANAL. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU. YES, SIR. JAMES. THE PERSON I HAVE ASKED TO SERVE ON THAT BOARD IS CURRENTLY SERVING ON THE PARKS FOUNDATION. WOULD HE STILL BE ELIGIBLE TO SIT? I SEE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. CONFLICT OF INTEREST, IS HIS QUESTION. NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. NO, I HADN'T FORGOTTEN IT. DIDN'T THINK YOU HAD. WELL, HE HE WAS AFRAID IT MIGHT BE A CONFLICT, BUT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO ALL I NEED TO KNOW. ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN, ANYTHING ELSE? IF NOT, COUNCIL MEMBER VASQUEZ'S FAVORITE MOTION. WAIT A MINUTE. MOTION TO ADJOURN. I JUST GOT A. I JUST GOT A TEXT. COUNCILMAN VASQUEZ SAYS MOVE FOR ADJOURNMENT. SO MOVED A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CANAL. IS THERE A SECOND? SECON

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