[I. OPENING ITEMS] [00:00:12] THIS MEETING TO ORDER. KIRK, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN INVOCATION? SURE. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY, AND WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE. LORD, WE JUST ASK THAT YOU BE WITH US THIS MORNING AS WE GO THROUGH OUR MEETING. LORD, WE ALSO PRAY FOR RAIN FOR OUR LAND. LORD, THAT YOU WOULD JUST BLESS US WITH A LOT OF WATER OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. IT IS IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. ALRIGHT, WE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE. ALL THE TIME. ALL RIGHT. HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES FROM MAY 6TH? [II. CONSENT ITEMS] I HAVE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. AND THERE'S A SECOND DISCUSSION. NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OBJECTION? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO NOW WITH OUR [III. PUBLIC HEARING] FIRST CASE FILE NUMBER 2026-06-V. OPENING PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST BY BLACK BEAR DINER OWNER FOR A VARIANCE SECTION 14 DASH TEN DASH ONE FOR A. OF THE CITY OF ODESSA'S ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW FOR A 544FT■!S OF BUSINESS AND IDENTIFICATION SIGN INSTEAD OF THE MAXIMUM 400FT■!S THAT IS ALLOWED. 8150 EAST 56TH STREET STAFF. THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR. TWO NOTICES WERE SENT OUT. WE RECEIVED NO PROTEST AND NO APPROVALS. THE PROPERTY INVOLVED IN THIS REQUEST IS LOCATED AT 8150 EAST 56TH STREET. THIS SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED RETAIL, RETAIL ONE DISTRICT AND IS OCCUPIED BY BUSINESSES. THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY RETAIL DISTRICT. THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR 544FT■S OF BUSINESS IDENTIFICATION SIGNS, INSTEAD OF THE MAXIMUM 400FT■!S THAT IS ALLOWED. THE APPLICANT. WAKE FOREST WITH BLACK BEAR DINER, IS SEEKING APPROVAL OF A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE INSTALLATION OF FOUR SEPARATE BEAR SILHOUETTES, WITH A TOTAL 148.37FT■!S ON THEIR BUILDING AT SHILOH SQUARE. SET FILING. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THIS VARIANCE TO IMPROVE THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE CHARACTER AND IDENTITY OF THE BUILDING, RATHER THAN FUNCTIONING AS A SIGNAGE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE FROM SECTION 1410 ONE FOUR A OF THE CITY OF ODESSA ZONING ORDINANCE. STAFF FINDS THERE ARE NO SPECIAL CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROPERTY THAT DO NOT EXIST FOR OTHERS IN THE AREA, AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE ORDINANCE WILL NOT CREATE ANY HARDSHIP FOR THE APPLICANT. THE SILHOUETTE, THOUGH INTENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF ESTHETICS, MATCHES EXISTING BRANDING AND LOGO FOR BLACK BEAR DINER AND THEREFORE DO NOT DO QUALIFY AS A SIGNAGE. STAFF FINDS THAT APPROVING ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE WOULD CREATE A PRECEDENT FOR THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TO FOLLOW. BASED ON THE ANALYSIS OF THIS REQUEST, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL. HOWEVER, SHOULD THE BOARD APPROVE? SHOULD THE BOARD CHOOSE TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST, THE PLANNING STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND ADOPTION WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN, AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. SO ALL EXISTING SIGN IS ALREADY THERE, AND IT'S BASICALLY JUST A SILHOUETTE OF THE BEAR THEY'RE ADDING. SO THE EXISTING SIGNS IS MADE UP OF ONE FREESTANDING. THERE IS A A [00:05:03] HOLLOW, A WRITTEN SIGN OF BLACK BEAR DINER. AND THERE IS ALREADY A BEAR SILHOUETTE THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BUT YET TO BE INSTALLED. SO THEY'RE JUST WANTING TO ADD SILHOUETTE OF THE ONE BEAR. NO, FOR FOUR SEPARATE BEAR SILHOUETTE. THEY WANT TO ADD THEM ON ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE BUILDING. YES, ON THE BUILDING. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SO THE ACTUAL SIGNAGE THAT'S IN, I'M ASSUMING LIKE I'LL GO BACK ONE MORE. THAT ONE. THE STRUCTURED SIGN FOR THE BUSINESS. IS THAT GOING TO WHAT WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT. THAT WAS 395.8 SQUARE FOOTAGE. THE APPROVED SIGNAGE. SO THAT'S APPROVED. YES. AND THAT'S SO ARE WE GOING TO ARE THEY CONSIDERING PUTTING THE SILHOUETTE ON THAT SIGN AS WELL? YES. SO THEY PLAN TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL 148.37 SILHOUETTE, WHICH CONSISTS OF FOUR SEPARATE BEAR SILHOUETTES ON THE BUILDING. SO THE THEY'RE THE ADDITION SIGNAGE IS GOING TO BE ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING ITSELF, THE STRUCTURE AND JUST BEARS. NO LANGUAGE, NO WORDING, JUST THE BEAR. JUST SILHOUETTE. DO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE PICTURES OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING? I THOUGHT I HAD SEEN OKAY, LIKE THAT BUILDING, THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIGN ON THAT WALL, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. SO ALREADY HAS IS THAT LIGHT FIXTURES ON TOP OF THOSE THREE? YEAH. THAT WAS SILHOUETTE THE BEAR THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT UP. OKAY. SO IN BASICALLY THAT FRAME, THEY WANT TO PUT A SILHOUETTE THERE. YES. ON THERE. AND HOW MANY SILHOUETTES TOTAL DO THEY WANT TO ADD? FOUR. ARE THESE GOING TO BE LIGHTED SILHOUETTES? YES. ALL FOUR OF THEM. ALL FOUR OF THEM. SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE THE SILHOUETTE. AND THEN THOSE THREE LIGHTS ABOVE. OR IS IT ONE OR THE OTHER. IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE WITH ME READING ON THIS ONE. IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE BACKLIT. THE BEAR WILL BE WILL BE BACKLIT SILHOUETTE ILLUMINATED. SO THE QUESTION IS, ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE THOSE THREE LIGHTS AND THE BACKLIT SILHOUETTE, OR IS IT GOING TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER? I THINK IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE LIGHT SHINING DOWN ON IT, BUT ALSO IT'S GOING TO BE A SILHOUETTE ALSO WITH LIGHT COMING FROM THE EDGES OF IT. WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM. YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS MOMENT. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE SECTION OF THE MEETING TO THE PUBLIC. ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS VARIANCE, PLEASE STEP FORWARD. YOU GOT SHOVED UP THERE. YEAH. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. YES, SIR. MY NAME IS RICK FORSTER. I'M VICE PRESIDENT OF CONSTRUCTION FOR BLACK BEAR DINER, 280 HEMPSTEAD DRIVE, SUITE 200, REDDING, CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING OUR REQUEST. AS YOU KNOW, WE JUST RECENTLY OPENED OUR RESTAURANT TO ANSWER A COUPLE OF YOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD ABOUT THE BEAR SILHOUETTES. YES. THEY WOULD GO IN THAT INDENTATION ON THAT ONE IMAGE THAT YOU HAD OF THE EXISTING BUILDING. LET'S SAY IT'S PICTURE FRAMED. THOSE RENDERINGS DON'T DO THAT VERY GOOD JUSTICE. BUT THE, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD CONTINUE TO FLIP THROUGH, MAYBE DO YOU HAVE A POINTER UP HERE AT ALL OR. NO, NO. THIS RIGHT HERE. SHE'S GOT HER. I THINK SHE'S GOT IT TO BRING IT TO YOU. OKAY. TOP LEFT AND HOLD IT. THERE WE GO. YEAH. IT'S KIND OF QUICK. SO EVEN THIS GREEN COLOR IS NOT CORRECT. CAN WE FLIP THROUGH A COUPLE MORE SLIDES HERE AND POINT OUT THE PICTURE I'M TRYING TO DISCUSS HERE? DO YOU HAVE THAT OR DO YOU JUST MOVE THIS FORWARD? YEAH, I GUESS OKAY. IT WAS THE PICTURE OF THE BUILDING THAT, OH. OKAY. OKAY. SO ON THIS PICTURE RIGHT HERE, YOU CAN SEE THIS IS OUTLINED IN GREEN. AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE SIDING THAT GOES IN BETWEEN THAT. THAT'S WHERE THOSE SILHOUETTES WOULD GO. AND THEN AS YOU SAW IN THE RENDERING HERE, THEY'RE NOT SOLID GREEN. THAT WAS AN ILLUSTRATION OF THE KIND OF GIVE A NIGHT SHOT. BUT THERE ARE TWO FACTORS HERE. THERE ARE THE GOOSENECK LIGHTS UP ABOVE. WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROJECT IN THE TRADITIONAL [00:10:06] BLACK BEAR DINER, WE HAVE A MURAL IMAGE IN ALL THOSE PICTURE FRAMES AROUND THE BUILDING. WE FELT THAT WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HERE TO CHANGE THAT AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THE MURALS HAVE KIND OF BEEN DATED. THEY FADE. WE CONSTANTLY, YOU KNOW, REPLACE THEM OVER PERIODS OF TIME. SO WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT HERE. AND HONESTLY, THIS IS THE FIRST LOCATION WE'VE TRIED IT AT. AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAME UP WITH THE BEAR SILHOUETTES IS JUST TO SIMPLY PUT THOSE ON THE BUILDING. SO THE GOOSENECK LIGHTING WAS INSTALLED WITH THE SHELL OF THE BUILDING. AND THEN THIS APPLICATION WOULD BE THE SILHOUETTES THAT WOULD BE BACKLIT, WHICH WOULD ALSO HAVE A LITTLE HALO LOOK TO THEM AT NIGHTTIME APPEARANCE. SO YES, THERE'D BE TWO, TWO ILLUMINATED FACTORS THERE. AND THE EXCUSE ME, BUT YES, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PICTURE FRAME OR, YOU KNOW, MAKE USE OF THOSE OUTLINES AROUND THE BUILDING. AND THERE ARE THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. AS YOU SCROLL AROUND THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT THESE BEAR SILHOUETTES WOULD BE INCLUDED, DO ALL THE PICTURE FRAMES, DO ALL, ALL HAVE THOSE GOOSENECK LIGHTS? THEY DO. THEY DO. AND IN ALL OF THOSE BOXES WOULD JUST BE A SILHOUETTE OF A BEAR. NO WRITING. CORRECT? EXACTLY. THERE IS THE ONE IMAGE ON THE ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. IT'S WIDE ENOUGH THAT THERE WERE TWO ILLUSTRATED IN THERE. AND IT'S THAT BACK SIDE, RIGHT? YOU HAD IT THE FIRST TIME. THIS THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. IT'S HARD TO SEE IN THAT IMAGE, BUT THERE'S TWO IN THERE, JUST ONE FOLLOWING THE OTHER DIFFERENT SIZES. OKAY. WE WERE JUST TRYING TO FILL THE SPACE. I GUESS, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, THE FIRST QUESTION IS TO EVERYBODY'S POINT, HOW DO WE CONSTRUE THIS AS SIGNAGE? WE DEEM IT AS A DIFFERENT FEATURE. IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO FILL THE SPACE. IT'S ESTHETIC. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, ADD SOME CHARACTER. BUT HONESTLY THERE'S NO COPY TO IT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE SELLING IF THE BEAR WAS BY ITSELF? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD. I MEAN, WE DO BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THIS AS, AS A AS AN ISSUE. BUT FROM THE CONSUMER STANDPOINT, YOU DRIVE BY THE BUILDING GOING 40 MILES AN HOUR, YOU SEE A COUPLE THINGS ON THE BUILDING. DOES THAT SCREAM OUT TO YOU? THAT'S SIGNAGE. I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S JUST SUBJECT TO INTERPRETATION, BUT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS THAT AND HOPEFULLY FIND THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR REQUEST WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY. SO THE MATERIAL THAT YOU PLAN ON USING FOR THE THE. IMAGE, WHAT TYPE OF MATERIAL ARE ITS EIGHT INCH THICK ALUMINUM, ALUMINUM. IT'S PRE-FINISHED PAINTED. I HAVE SOME IF YOU HAVE A SOMETHING I COULD PLUG IN, WE KIND OF MODELED IT AFTER. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN SOME BJ'S RESTAURANTS, BUT RECENTLY THEY'VE BEEN DOING. YES, THEY'VE BEEN DOING SOME SIMILAR THINGS AS WELL. AND THEY'VE TAKEN THE SAME KIND OF THING, THE ALUMINUM, AND THEN APPLIED IT TO THE BUILDING AND NOT TO BE COPYCAT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE SOME OF THE ILLUSTRATIONS CAME FROM. IDEAS. IT'S A LET'S GO TO ODESSA RIGHT THERE AND THEN GO TO THIS TE3 DOWN HERE. OKAY, THIS ONE. THERE'S A LOT. SO I'M ASSUMING THIS IS GOING TO BE MOUNTED IN A FASHION WHERE IT CAN BE PERMANENTLY. IT WOULD BE PERMANENTLY FIXED. YES. HOW BRIGHT WOULD THIS RIGHT THERE IF YOU CAN SHARE IT. IT'S USUALLY A HALO. IT'S JUST A LOW GLOW AROUND THEM. BUT HAVING TWO SETS, TOO MUCH LIGHT, HOW BRIGHT WOULD IT BE HAVING? IT'S JUST BACKLIT. IT'S JUST LIKE I SAID. AND THEN TO GIVE YOU A HALO LOOK TO IT, THAT'S COOL. SO THIS IS WHAT BJ'S RESTAURANT IS DOING. AND SO WHAT THEY'VE DONE, OBVIOUSLY THEIR BACKDROP IS DIFFERENT THAN OURS. THEY'VE GOT BRICK AND THEY'VE GOT DIFFERENT STONE, BUT THEY'VE DONE THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, OR WE'RE COPYING KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT MAKING IT A BEAR SHAPE, RIGHT? IT'S JUST ALUMINUM IN THEIR CASE, THEIRS IS BACKLIT AS WELL. SO THAT LIGHTS UP A LITTLE BIT AT NIGHT. AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE LITTLE CLOSE UPS ON TWO OTHERS. BUT SO THE GOOSENECK LIGHTS WERE ALREADY APPROVED. THE GLOW AROUND THEM. SO THEN THAT JUST KIND OF SHOWS YOU HOW IT'S OFFSET FROM THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT. AND OURS WOULD BE AS WELL. AND THEN THE THIRD PICTURE, IT'S NOT VERY GOOD, BUT IT KIND OF SHOWS WHERE THE ILLUMINATION WAS BEHIND IT. OKAY. MAYBE I DIDN'T COPY THAT ONE. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. OKAY. IF WE HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SIR. SURE. IS THERE ANYBODY [00:15:05] ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS VARIANCE? PLEASE STEP FORWARD. OH, THAT WAS YOU. YOU HAD IT. I'M A STAFF QUESTION IF IT'S APPROPRIATE. YEAH. SO LIKE I SAID, THAT'S NOT A VERY GOOD PICTURE. BUT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW IT STANDS OFF A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN THE ILLUMINATION IS TUCKED IN BEHIND IT. ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SOME MODULES OF LED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE VARIANCE. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE SECTION OF THE MEETING. AND I THINK COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. STAFF. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. I DO. SO YOU SAID YOU SENT OUT TWO NOTICES. WHO WHO WERE THEY TO DOES IT. BE ON THAT. SO JUST AS CAUTION, YOU KNOW THIS IS A VARIANCE HEARING. JUST I JUST WANT TO CAUTION YOU SETTING THE PRESIDENT'S OR NOT. I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING GO EITHER WAY, BUT YOU KNOW, JUST AS THEY GET. SO WE SENT IT OUT TO BROWN WILLIE AND FRED FAMILY THEN TT FAMILY FOR FOR FOR INVESTMENTS LLC. WHAT BUSINESS IS THAT YOU KNOW. CHARLIE BROWN WALLY BROWN SELLER OKAY. NO RESPONSE, NO RESPONSE. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. WHEN WE'RE MEASURING THE SIZE OF THAT, IS IT THE SIZE OF THE ENTIRE SQUARE OR IS IT JUST THE LOGO OF THE BEAR? IT LOOKS LIKE JUST THE LOGO. THE BEAR. OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION AS WELL. SO IS PROBABLY TECHNICAL. SO IF HE WAS TO CHANGE THE IMAGE TO LIKE A DEMOGRAPHIC IMAGE, LIKE A PUMPJACK OR A CACTUS, OR WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED SIGNAGE? PROBABLY NOT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT THEIR LOGO. SO SIMILAR TO LIKE IF MCDONALD'S HAD THE GOLDEN ARCHES, YOU'D KNOW WHAT THAT IS. SO IT'S, IT'S BRANDING VERSUS NOT ESSENTIALLY VERSUS ART. YEAH. DOES OUR SIGN POLICY IS, I GUESS ONE SIZE FITS ALL. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN SOME CASES LIKE THIS ONE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE BUSINESSES ALL AROUND IT, RIGHT? 360 CORRECT PARKING WHERE IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S, OH, I GUESS STICKING OUT OF A, ON A STREET WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE A BACK, RIGHT? WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE A DEVELOPMENT. AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF I MEAN, ALL OF IT, IT MAY BE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT IS, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE A, BASICALLY A 360 TYPE RETAIL BUSINESS OR BUSINESS, IS THIS WHAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS OUR ORDINANCES STILL APPLY TO THAT? AND I THINK OUR ORDINANCE IS A LITTLE IT DOES APPLY ORDINANCE IS OUTDATED RIGHT NOW. SO I WANT TO SAY OUTDATED. IT'S JUST. SO THE LINEAGE, THE LINEAGE THAT DETERMINES THAT IT'S JUST TO ONE SIDE TO WHERE LIKE KIRK IS EXPLAINING THIS, THIS IS MORE HIS EXPOSURE IS MORE THAN JUST ONE SIDE. SO THE WAY THE CALCULATION IS MADE FOR SIGN MAXIMUM SIGN ALLOWANCE IS THROUGH LINEAR STREET FRONTAGE. IN A SITUATION WHERE THE BUSINESS HAS TWO STREETS, YOU KNOW, SIDE STREET AND FRONT STREET, WE TAKE THE LONGEST LINEAR STREET, FRONT STREET, BUT NORMALLY THE SIGN, THE SIGN ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE THIS, THE LINEAR STREET FRONTAGE TO BE CALCULATED. AND IT DOES GIVE US A CALCULATION DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT IT IS. AND IT GIVES US A CALCULATION FOR WHAT WALL SIGNS AND FREESTANDING. SO IT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS IT IS. IT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH TYPE OF BUSINESS. FOR EXAMPLE, IN A RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER IT'S A DIFFERENT CALCULATION. BUT VERSUS ONE LOT BUSINESS WHERE YOU ONLY HAVE JUST ONE BUILDING. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE. WELL I'M OKAY. IS THERE IS THERE THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. THERE'S A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? DISCUSSION. I'M OKAY WITH IT. THE REASON WHY IT'S THIS IS AN EXCEPTIONAL BUSINESS, NOT BECAUSE IT'S BLACK BEAR, BUT THE SITUATION ALTOGETHER. THE ORDINANCE, I THINK, IS JUST OVERREACHING. YOU KNOW, THIS SITUATION. AND AND FOR IT'S A TECHNICAL ISSUE WHERE IF USED TO HAVE A THESE MURALS IN ANY [00:20:01] OTHER FASHION, IT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. BUT BECAUSE IT'S A SILHOUETTE OF THEIR LOGO, I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, AND THE WAY IT'S MOUNTED, IT'S AN ACCEPTABLE FASHION AS WELL. IT'S NOT PROTRUDING LIKE A CLOWN CIRCUS, YOU KNOW, DEMONSTRATION. SO I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THIS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH. SO JUST REAL QUICK, MR. CHAIR, WAS THAT WITH THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS OR JUST THE BLANKET APPROVAL, DO YOU WANT TO AMEND YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE SO WE CAN AMEND YOUR MOTION? YES. I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION. I WANT TO APPROVE THE SIGNAGE AS THEY HAVE REQUESTED WITH THE STAFF ANALYSIS RECOMMENDATIONS. YES. WITH STAFF ANALYSIS RECOMMENDATIONS. IS THERE A SECOND, HENRY. WHAT ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS? NO ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE ALLOWED ON PROPERTY AND ANY CHANGES TO THE SIGNS WILL REQUIRE A SIGNAGE SIGN PERMIT, WHICH IS A STANDARD. YEAH, A SECOND, SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OBJECTION? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. IF THERE'S NO OTHER CASES TO BE HEARD, I ASK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. THERE'S A MOTION. I'LL SECOND. THERE'S A SECOND DISCUSSION. NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR. SAY AYE. ANY OBJECTION? SAME SIGN. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.