[III.2. Discuss award of bid and approving a contract with Jones Bros. Dirt & Paving Contractors, Inc. in the amount of $4,735,113.10 for 52nd Street Reconstruction from North Grandview Avenue to North John Ben Shepperd Parkway Boulevard. ]

CHIEF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. DISCUSS AWARD OF BID AND APPROVING A CONTRACT WITH JONES BROTHERS PAVING CONTRACTORS IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,735,113.10 FOR THE 52ND STREET RECONSTRUCTION FOR NORTH GRANDVIEW AVENUE TO NORTH JUMPING SHEPHERD JOHN. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR. COUNCIL.

GOOD AFTERNOON. THE BIDS FOR THIS PROJECT WERE OPENED ON APRIL 27TH, 2026, AND FOR RESPONSIVE BIDS WERE SUBMITTED FOR THIS PROJECT. THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER WAS JONES BROTHERS IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,735,113.10, WHICH IS 19% BELOW THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE.

AND THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE FOR THIS PROJECT WAS $5,896,000. THIS BID IS WITHIN BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR THE PROJECT IN THE CITY OF ODESSA 2020 TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.

THIS PROJECT WAS IDENTIFIED AS A FULL DEPTH RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT IS TO INSTALL APPROXIMATELY 40,000YD■S OF ASPHALT, APPROXIMATELY 3000YD■S OF NINE INCH REINFORCED CONCRETE INTERSECTION WITH TRANSITION SLABS AND 700YD■!S OF CONCRETE VALUES. WE'RE ANTICIPATING COMPLETING THE PROJECT WITHIN 180 WORKING DAYS, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, CHAIRMAN. QUESTIONS. I WILL I WILL SAY THE FOURTH DISTRICT HAS BEEN LOOKING VERY FORWARD TO THIS. COUNCILMAN STOKER CAME IN ON FRIDAY, AND WE CHATTED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, AND HE HAD ASKED ABOUT IS IT IS IT PERMISSIBLE, FOR INSTANCE, TO DO A BONUS? YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, IN THIS CONTRACT, WE HAVE $1,500 A DAY IN LIQUIDATED DAMAGES FOR IF THEY'RE BEYOND THE 180 DAYS, COULD WE GO THE OTHER WAY, FOR INSTANCE? AND AND AS A BONUS, TO TRY AND GET THIS THING MOVED ALONG QUICKER, LET'S SAY IT COULD BE ANY NUMBER, BUT LET'S SAY IF IT WERE $1,500 A DAY, THAT FOR

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EVERY DAY IT WAS THAT IT WAS COMPLETED EARLY. AND YES, YOU COULD DO THAT. TALK TO JAMES ABOUT THAT. THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS YOU COULDN'T HAVE THE CONTRACT WRITTEN THAT WAY IF YOU WANTED TO. BUT ANYWAY, SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT. THINK ABOUT. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

THE THE ESTIMATE, THE THE COST IS COMING IN LOWER THAN THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE. SO THERE IS SOME WIGGLE ROOM THERE, I THINK TO THE TUNE OF A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION, IT'S LESS. BUT THAN IT WAS ESTIMATED TO BE. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME WIGGLE ROOM THERE. I'M NOT SAYING YOU SHOULD DO THAT IN EVERY CASE. YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, LET'S SAY YOU HAD AN ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE FOR $5 MILLION IN THE PROJECT CAME IN AT $5 MILLION.

WELL, YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE THE SPACE TO DO THAT, BUT IN THIS CASE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE. SO AND EVEN IF YOU DID $1,500 A DAY, $1,500 A DAY AT 30 DAYS WOULD BE $45,000. SO YEAH, I WAS THINKING MAYBE THIS, I THINK ALL OF OUR PUBLIC IS FRUSTRATED WITH SOME LENGTH OF SOME PROJECT, PARTICULARLY WHEN THEY GO BY. THERE'S NO CONTRACTORS WORKING. I THINK THAT REALLY FRUSTRATES PEOPLE. IT DOES MEAN I'M GOING TO BE QUIET ON THAT. EVEN SOME COUNCILMAN MAY BE FRUSTRATED. SO MAYBE WHAT WE DO IS 1500 OR 1000 OR SOMETHING, NOT TO EXCEED BLANK AND BLANK. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT NUMBER IS, YOU KNOW, 50,000 OR 25,000 OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW. BUT I DO THINK IF WE CAN ENCOURAGE A FASTER PROJECT, WE'D HAVE HAPPIER. YEAH. CITIZENS. WELL, AND AGAIN, THE CONVERSATION CAME OUT OF, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW CAN YOU INCENTIVIZE IT BOTH WAYS THAT YOU DON'T WANT IT TO RUN LATE? BUT HEY, IF YOU CAN SHOW UP AND WORK EVERY DAY, WHICH MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE. AND WHEN YOU READ THROUGH THIS, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PROVISIONS PUT IN THERE THAT THEY GET 96 HOURS FOR THE CONCRETE TO CURE. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF, BUT THE, THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH COREY JONES WAS, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE'RE WANTING TO PUT THIS IN THERE, BUT WHAT ABOUT A BONUS? AND HE SAYS, YEAH, WE'D LOVE A BONUS. SO, YOU KNOW. THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO GET THESE THINGS DONE QUICKER. BECAUSE THE OTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT WAS, ALL RIGHT, WELL, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IF WE DO NIGHT CONSTRUCTION AND CUT THE 180 DAYS DOWN TO 90 DAYS, WELL, THAT MAY TRIPLE THE PRICE. SO I DON'T KNOW. I THIS TO ME, IF YOU COULD, HEY, KNOCK IT OUT 30 DAYS EARLY AND MAKE A BONUS. OH, COUNCILMAN. SO WE WOULD NEED TO REALLY KNOW EXACTLY HOW LONG IT SHOULD TAKE TO DO THIS PROJECT. IF YOU WERE ON IT EVERY DAY, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE YOU TO REALLY DO THIS PROJECT? SO IF YOU COULD GIVE US A ROUGH ESTIMATE ON HOW MANY DAYS, I'M NOT ASKING FOR A DIRECT NUMBER. PROBABLY I'M ASKING FOR A NUMBER THAT'S A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WHAT YOU REALLY WOULD THINK. BUT IF YOU COULD GIVE US THAT AND THEN WE COULD BASE A BONUS OFF OF THEM COMPLETING THIS BEFORE NOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR SHODDY WORK. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND JUST HAVE TO THROW IT IN. IT'S STILL EVERYTHING'S STILL IN PLAY, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT. AND SO BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEM GIVING A BONUS. I THINK THAT'S THIS SHOULD BE DONE ON EVERY PROJECT WE HAVE. I'M LOOKING AT EIGHTH STREET AND I CAN'T EVEN GET WHEN WHEN WE CLOSE DOWN SEVENTH STREET. NOW WE HAD NO WAY TO EVEN GET INTO TOWN. SO WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON TWO ROADS AT THE EXACT SAME TIME, BUT I'M ALSO LOOKING AT CARS SITTING THERE EVERY DAY, JUST GETTING FRUSTRATED AND FRUSTRATED, AND THEY'RE GOING A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. THEY'RE CUTTING THROUGH STORES. THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING JUST TO GET AROUND ALL OF THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE FRUSTRATED AND I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT. BUT WHEN I PULL UP ON A JOB SITE AND THERE'S NOT A SOUL THERE, AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY AND IT'S BEEN A BEAUTIFUL DAY FOR A WHOLE WEEK, SOMETHING'S WRONG. OR I JUST GIVE YOU HEAR ME TALK TO AARON. WELL, AND LIKE I SAID, AND I DON'T AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THEY'RE ON BEHALF OF THE CONTRACTOR, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE WAS THAT DAY. YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, COULD THEY BE OUT THERE THAT DAY? YOU KNOW, DID THEY ARE THEY GOING TO WORK? ARE THEY GOING TO WORK 50 HOURS OVER TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND STILL MEET THEIR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THAT PROJECT IS ON SCHEDULE, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT BEHIND. AND THEN GO AHEAD. YEAH, I THINK THIS IS NOT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, BUT THERE WAS ASPHALT THAT NEEDED TO BE LAID BECAUSE THERE WAS STUFF THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE. IT COULD BE GETTING THAT THING PADDED UP AND READY FOR THE ASPHALT. THEY WEREN'T EVEN WORKING ON IT.

THEY JUST SAID, WELL, THE CONCRETE NOW WE GOT TO LET IT, AND THEY PULLED OFF COMPLETELY.

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I UNDERSTAND THAT CONCRETE'S GOT TO SET, BUT YOU HAD OTHER STUFF THAT YOU COULD BE WORKING ON. AND SO I'M A CONTRACTOR, AND SO I GET FRUSTRATED WHEN I HAVE SO MANY DAYS TO FINISH A CONTRACT AND THINGS INTERRUPT MY STUFF. BUT OUT THERE, WHEN I PULL UP AND YOU START OFF WITH 20 GUYS OUT THERE AND THERE'S TWO WORKING TO FINISH A PROJECT, I HAVE A BIG TIME PROBLEM WITH THAT. THAT MEANS WE GAVE THEM WAY TOO MANY DAYS. SO WE REALLY NEED TO TO BE LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE DOING, HOW WE'RE APPROACHING THIS. IF YOU KNOW, A JOB CAN BE DONE IN 90 DAYS AND WE GIVE THEM 180. SHAME ON US. THAT PROJECT SHOULD BE DONE IN 90 DAYS. AND WE CAN AND YOU CAN DO THAT IN THE CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, SO FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, THIS ONE HAS ALREADY BEEN BID OUT THOUGH I UNDERSTAND. BUT, YOU KNOW, SO AS WE'RE BIDDING OUT FUTURE PROJECTS, I THINK WE COULD DO THAT. WE COULD SAY, OKAY, WELL, WHAT DOES THIS PROJECT COST US AT 90 DAYS? WHAT IS THIS PROJECT COST US AT 180 DAYS? I THINK WE COULD CERTAINLY SOLVE THAT THAT WAY AS WE BID OUT FUTURE PROJECTS. YOU KNOW, ASPHALT, TXDOT GETS FIRST CRACK AT ASPHALT AROUND HERE. SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, LET'S SAY A CONTRACTOR, ONE OF OUR CONTRACTORS IS SAYING, HEY, WE WANT TO PUT ASPHALT DOWN TODAY.

TXDOT CALLS AND SAYS, WE NEED ASPHALT TODAY. TXDOT GETS THE GETS THE ASPHALT BEFORE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES. AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED HERE. BUT THERE AND AGAIN, I EACH ONE OF THESE CHARACTERS HAS THEIR OWN ASPHALT PLAN. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE HAVING TO WAIT BECAUSE. WELL, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DID. I'M JUST SAYING THAT I DON'T SEE THEIR CON. I DON'T SEE THEIR CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE IN FRONT OF ME. SO I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DO KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT TIME FOR YOUR GUYS TO BE GONE, THEN WE'RE GIVING WAY TOO MUCH TIME. WELL, AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK WE DO THAT. MAYBE LOOK, LOOKING FORWARD WHEN WE DO FUTURE BIDS ON FUTURE PROJECTS, WE SAY GIVE US A PRICE FOR 90 DAY COMPLETION. GIVE US A GIVE US, YOU KNOW, IN 30 DAY INCREMENTS AND 91, 20.

AND SO FAR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ONE, 2180, SOMETHING LIKE THAT REFINED THE DEFINITION. HERE'S MY CONCERN ABOUT THE WORDS THAT I HEARD USED BONUS INCENTIVIZING TO HELP GET IT SPED UP AND ALL THAT. ARE WE OPENING THE DOOR FOR FUTURE PROJECTS? THESE CONTRACTORS SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, ODESSA, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T GET THE JOB DONE WITHIN BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, THEY'LL OFFER US A BONUS. I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE TO I MEAN, THERE WAS A CONTRACT THAT WAS AGREED ON, RIGHT, FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. WELL, THAT WAS THAT'S THE CONTRACT THAT THAT THEY HAVE. AND WE HAVE. YES. THAT'S RIGHT. FOR THE 180 DAYS. YES. SO WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY BONUS INCENTIVIZING CRAIG IF THEY GET IT DONE IN 160. THE PENALTY IF IT TAKES LONGER, CRAIG SUGGESTED IT'D BE A BONUS OR SOME KIND OF REWARD. IF THEY DO IT FASTER, MY QUESTION THEN WOULD BE ARE WE OPENING THE DOOR FOR FUTURE PROJECT CONTRACTORS TO THINK IN THOSE IN THAT WAY? AND WE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AS WELL. OKAY. THAT'S POSSIBLE. OKAY. BUT NOW NOW EVERY PROJECT IS GOING TO BE BID AT 300 DAYS. AND LOOK, WE FINISHED IN 180 DAYS. WE PICKED, WE PICKED THE DATE, NOT THEM, BUT WE PICKED THE DATE. THAT'S WHAT I SAID. BUT IT'S WHAT DAYS? NOW HANEY'S TALKING ABOUT THAT.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, HAVE A HAVE A PROFESSIONAL OPINION OF NO THAT THAT SHOULD TAKE YOU 160 DAYS.

YEAH. WE'LL BUILD IN A LITTLE BECAUSE HEY, IT MAY RAIN BUCKETS BECAUSE IT'S APRIL THIS THIS AND THIS IS A COMPLEX PROJECT, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU'RE THERE'S A LOT OF DRIVES THROUGH THIS, THIS PARTICULAR AREA RIGHT HERE. AND THERE'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO, THERE'S THE TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN IS GOING TO BE PRETTY COMPLEX THROUGH HERE, I THINK, WHICH I THINK WE ALSO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT OUTSIDE OF THE CONTRACT, BE A NIGHTTIME PROJECT. WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL THROUGH THERE, THOUGH, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD. PROBLEM WITH 52ND STREET IS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE USE 52ND AS A CUT THROUGH. THEY DON'T WANT TO DRIVE ON 42ND, AND THEY USE IT FOR THAT REASON. AND IF YOU WANTED IT AND FOR IF WE IF WE WANTED TO DO NIGHT, IF WE IF IF YOU WANTED TO GO BACK OUT FOR BID, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO. WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK OUT FOR BID ON THIS PROJECT. IF, IF IT NEEDED TO BE NIGHT WORK, WE WOULD NEED TO SPECIFY THAT. WE NEED TO SAY, HEY, THIS THING NEEDS TO BE DONE AND, YOU KNOW, 120 DAYS. AND BY THE WAY, YOU CAN WORK 24 OVER SEVEN ON THIS PROJECT. SO WE'RE BASICALLY GOING TO TAKE FOUR LANES DOWN TO TWO, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN IS. DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THEIR TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN MIGHT BE? IN THIS CASE IT IS. IT WILL BE DONE IN PHASES, BUT TWO LANES NEEDS TO BE OPEN ALL THE TIME. SO YEAH, WE SHOULD HAVE TRAFFIC BOTH WAYS. AND WE'VE GOT SOME BUSINESSES THROUGH HERE. AND WE IN FACT, WE DISCUSSED THAT ON FRIDAY AS WELL, IS BASICALLY SAYING, ALL RIGHT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET THIS TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN, WE'LL HAVE BASICALLY A, WE

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COULD EVEN DO THE TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN. WE COULD HAVE THAT MEETING AT, AT A, AT ANOTHER PLACE, MAYBE ONE OF THE BUSINESSES ALONG THAT ROAD WOULD OPEN UP THEIR MEETING ROOM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND WE COULD INVITE THE BUSINESSES ALONG. 52ND, BETWEEN JBS AND GRANDVIEW, THOSE THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THIS IMPACTED, YOU KNOW, AND SAY, HEY, COME ON DOWN. WE'LL WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN AND HOW THIS IS SPECIFICALLY GOING TO AFFECT THEIR BUSINESS, THEIR, THEIR CREDIT UNION, THEIR, YOU KNOW, CAR LOT FOR CREDIT UNIONS, A COUPLE OF CAR WASHES, RESIDENT ORTHODONTIST. SURE. IT'S JUST I GOT TOO MANY CALLS OVER CRANE AND NOW WEST COUNTY BUSINESSES THAT HAD NO CLUE. THEY CLAIM THEY HAVE NO CLUE.

AGAIN, I GET THAT EVERY STORY HAS TWO SIDES. BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OPEN? HOW LONG IS THIS GOING TO TAKE? WE HAD NO IDEA. YOU'RE YOU'RE KILLING MY SALES. AND SO TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BE PRESENT IN THE MEETING WHERE, HEY, OFFER AN OPINION, I DON'T KNOW. SO A TOWN HALL TYPE, THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR THE TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN. AND I LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO ON THE WEBSITE RIGHT NOW, I REALLY LIKE HOW THAT'S SHAPING UP ABOUT HOW THE PROJECT SHOWS WHO THE CONTRACTOR IS, WHAT THE TIMELINE IS, AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. BUT I DO LIKE THE, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO, YOU KNOW, DO A TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN WHERE WE ACTUALLY INVITE THE PUBLIC THAT ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THAT PARTICULAR THING. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. I DON'T WE MAY HAVE TO MOVE KIND OF QUICK ON THIS ONE, BECAUSE I THINK THE CONTRACT IS LIKE, I THINK AFTER WE EXECUTE, THERE'S PROBABLY LIKE A TEN DAY, RIGHT? SO WE WOULD NEED TO GET THAT KIND OF TOGETHER PRETTY QUICK AND GET WITH THE CONTRACTOR ON, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT THAT TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN BEFOREHAND. CHRIS, ANY WATER OR SEWER REPLACEMENTS NEED TO BE DONE ON THIS ROAD BEFORE WE RELOCATE. SEVERAL FIRE HYDRANTS ALREADY.

BUT WHAT WE'RE NOT TOUCHING, I THINK WE'LL CALL ALEX UP SINCE HE'S OUR WATER RESIDENT WATER EXPERT. ALEX, TALK TO US. YEAH. SO WE ACTUALLY, BEFORE THIS PROJECT, JOE AND YVONNE REACHED OUT TO ME. SO WE WENT AHEAD AND COVERED ALL THE SEWER LINES IN THE AREA MANHOLES, LOOKED AT EVERYTHING WE HAD. THE AMOUNT OF LINE BREAKS THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE AREA ARE VERY LOW, SO WE HAVE NOT WE ELECTED NOT TO DO ANY MANHOLE OR WATER REPLACEMENTS, BUT THE MANHOLES ALL LOOKED GOOD. WE. WE WENT AHEAD AND TOOK PICTURES. CAMERAS DID ALL THAT. SO WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT THAT FOR THIS PROJECT. THANKS, ALEX. YES, SIR, I GOT YOU. HOW MUCH LONGER ON WEST COUNTY BEFORE YOU FINISH WITH WATER? WE CAN'T GO. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S OFF THE AGENDA? IT IS OFF THE AGENDA, UNFORTUNATELY. I'M SORRY. WE'LL GET TO IT. I THINK HERE PRETTY QUICK. I'LL TALK TO YOU AFTERWARDS. SORRY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? I DO THINK WHAT YOU'RE HEARING IS WE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE A REALLY TIGHT CONTRACT. IT'S FAIR BUT BUT TIGHT AND MAYBE WITH A PENALTY CLAUSE FOR LATE AND A BONUS CLAUSE. THAT ONE'S ALREADY IN THE PENALTIES. LIQUIDATED DAMAGES ARE IN THIS ONE. SO THE QUESTION IS JUST DO YOU WANT US TO BRING BACK SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS FOR $1,500 A DAY AS A AS A BONUS FOR EVERY DAY WITH A MAXIMUM OF, LET'S SAY, $50,000, WHICH WOULD BE ROUGHLY 40 DAYS OR SO, NOT, NOT QUITE 40 DAYS. ANY THOUGHTS ON ON THAT ONE? YAY OR NAY ON ON A, ON A BONUS FINISH EARLY. I DON'T MIND PAYING A BONUS, BUT IF WE, IF WE THOUGHT THIS JOB SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE A LONG TIME BEFORE IN 90 DAYS, THEN THEN NOT 180. THAT'S WHERE I SIT AT RIGHT NOW. OKAY, I THINK I WOULD RATHER HAVE A JOB KNOCKED OUT DONE IN THREE MONTHS, THEN SIX MONTHS. SIX MONTHS. I THINK. I MEAN, I THINK THE 180 DAYS IS PROBABLY REASONABLE CONSIDERING. AND I THINK THAT'S WHY IS FOR THIS PROJECT, OUR OUR ENGINEERS HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT THIS AND HAVE SAID, YOU KNOW, I THINK 180 DAYS IS REASONABLE BASED ON THIS BECAUSE IT IS A COMPLEX PROJECT. AGAIN, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S JUST A LOT OF DRIVES. AND WHEN YOU START ADDING A LOT OF DRIVES, YOU START ADDING A LOT OF COMPLEXITY TO THE PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T WE CAN'T JUST TEAR THE WHOLE THING UP AND BLOW AND GO, THIS THING HAS GOT TO BE DONE SEGMENTED AND PHASED, AND IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY COMPLEX. COUNCILMAN. ALSO, I'M SORRY, CHRIS, I HAVE A SUGGESTION THAT WE ALLOW NO LEFT HAND TURNS ON TO GET ACROSS ON THESE ROADS WHILE WE'RE WORKING. NO LEFT HAND TURNS ON THIS ROAD. AND THE REASON I'M SAYING THIS IS BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE COMING TO A LIGHT. NOW YOU GOT ONE LANE AND EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO TURN LEFT IS IN THAT SAME LANE. AND THAT BACKS UP TRAFFIC ALL THE WAY BACK. TALKING ABOUT DIXIE AND THE PROBLEM WE'VE HAD ON DIXIE THAT'S HAPPENING. THAT'S THAT'S A THAT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE I'VE SAID THROUGH 5 OR 6 LIFE CYCLES ON DIXIE, IT'S A PROBLEM WHEN YOU ONLY TWO LANES, YOU GOT TO TURN LEFT. YOU HOLD EVERYBODY ELSE UP. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE SOLUTION TO THAT. BUT THAT IS. SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT DURING THE TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN.

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AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN IS ALL ABOUT AT THAT POINT. THAT'S WHEN THAT'S WHEN OUR ENGINEERS TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND THEIR ENGINEERS TAKE A LOOK AT OR THEIR, THEIR CONTRACTORS TAKE A LOOK AT IT. AND WE KIND OF DECIDE WHAT IS THE BEST WAY FOR TRAFFIC TO FLOW BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE GREAT. I THINK SOME OF THAT ON DIXIE ALSO, THEY DID ONE WAY AT ONE TIME. THEN YOU ABLE TO TURN LEFT OR GO STRAIGHT. OH, THAT WAS THE POINT. YEAH, THAT WAS SOME OF THAT. SO THAT YOU HAD A LEFT ARROW, EVERY GREEN LIGHT, BUT NOT THE FIRST. NOT WITH THAT OTHER. YEAH, IT WASN'T RIGHT. NOW IT'S CHANGED. YEAH.

IT'S NOW IT'S WAY EASIER. TYPICALLY I'VE BEEN IN OTHER CITIES AND THEY DON'T ALLOW LEFT HAND TURNS WHEN THEY'RE WORKING ON A ROAD. THEY JUST CUT IT COMPLETELY OUT. THEY JUST KNOW YOU. THEY HAVE A MAIN THING TO GO DOWN TO. YOU HAVE TO COME BACK UP THE OTHER WAY TO GET TO IT. IT JUST KEEPS TRAFFIC FLOWING. THESE PEOPLE WANT TO GO HOME AT NIGHT. THEY DON'T WANT TO SIT THERE AT A LIGHT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS BIG RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S A BIG LOTS OF TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD. SO HERE WE GO GUYS. LET'S GIVE THEM A BREAK. NO LEFT HAND TURNS. LIKE I SAID, WE'LL WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AT THE DURING THE TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN COUNCIL. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE BONUS. YAY OR NAY. I THINK IT'S DONE CORRECTLY. I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD INCENTIVE, BUT I THINK THE BROADER SCOPE OF THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT IS OUR CITIZENS, HOW THEY VIEW CITY MANAGEMENT. AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE HIGHEST VISIBILITY THAT THEY SEE IS SIMPLY GETTING STUCK IN TRAFFIC. THEY DON'T SEE THE MEETINGS. THEY DON'T SEE A LOT OF IN-BETWEEN WORK. THEY DON'T SEE ALL THE WORK THAT'S GOING ON IN THE DEPARTMENTS, BUT THEY SEE THAT TRAFFIC AND THAT'S WHERE THEY GET FRUSTRATED. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S A BIG DEAL. OKAY, GREAT. COUNCILMAN VASQUEZ, AFTER ALL THIS DISCUSSION AND EXPLANATION, I'LL BE FOR THE BONUS. OKAY, COUNCILMAN, I'M GOOD WITH IT AND SEND IT TO I'M GOOD WITH IT. SO I THINK THAT I THINK WE CAN BUILD THAT IN JUST AS AN INCENTIVE. SO WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE 108. WE EITHER TAKE IT 150 OR WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE IT'D BE, I THINK, AS COUNCILMAN, YOU KNOW, HANEY'S ARTICULATED, WE WANT TO BE FAIR, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM TOO MUCH TIME BECAUSE THEY THEY'LL USE IT THE FULL LENGTH AND, AND MOVE PEOPLE OFF A JOB, FINISH ANOTHER ONE. AND THAT'S KILLING.

IT'S FRUSTRATING OUR CITIZENS. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM. THEY CALL US AND THEY'RE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE PEOPLE HATE TRAFFIC. THEY DO, AND THEY HATE BEING STUCK IN TRAFFIC. SO LET'S BE MINDFUL OF THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ONE LAST QUESTION. THE THERE WAS A QUESTION AT THE INTERSECTION OF GRANDVIEW AND 52ND, THE NEW. WELL, WE HAVE ANY PART OF THAT. THERE IS SOME TEX DOT LANGUAGE IN THIS. SO IS THAT BECAUSE WE'RE BUTTING UP TO GRANDVIEW OR APPARENTLY THE NEW LIGHTS THAT THEY'VE PUT UP, IT SOUNDED LIKE THEY HAVE ROOM FOR TWO TURN LANES, BUT THE STRIPING IS NOT THERE FOR TWO.

AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A PART OF THIS PROJECT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THEY'RE ON TOP OF THE ON TOP OF THE ARM. THERE'S TWO LEFT TURN LANES AND THERE'S ONLY ONE THERE. AND IT'S NOT STRIPED FOR LEFT TURN LANES. YES, I SAW THAT. YES. SO I, YEAH, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS PART OF THIS PROJECT. NO. I THINK BECAUSE OF ALL THE TXDOT STUFF IN HERE. SO ANYWAY, I THINK THAT WAS ON OKAY. THAT WAS ON GRANDVIEW. I THINK I SAW THAT THIS MORNING ACTUALLY. SO THAT'S BASICALLY ON THE NEW ARM. SO I'LL GET WITH I'LL GET WITH JOE, JILL AND, AND JOSEPH AND RHETT AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. OKAY. CAN I SAY YES, SIR. I THINK IT HELPS TO HAVE I KNOW WE CAN'T ALWAYS. BUT I THINK IT HELPS TO HAVE A LOCAL CONTRACTOR ON, ON BOARD BECAUSE I'M NOT FOR SURE. AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, WHEN YOU GET SOMEONE FROM OUT OF TOWN, THEY BRING AN OUT OF TOWN HELP. SURE. AND YOU'RE LOSING TIME BECAUSE THEY DON'T GET HERE WHEN THEY NEED TO BE HERE. BUT IF WE GOT LOCAL COMPANY, MOST OF THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE LOCAL AND IT HELPS TO BE AT WORK. THEY DON'T HAVE AN EXCUSE NOT TO BE AT WORK BECAUSE 90% OF THEM LIVE HERE. SO I THINK IT HELPS AND I APPRECIATE SEEING JONES BROTHERS ON THERE. YEAH, I THINK THAT HELPS US OUT A LOT. AND WE LIKE THE LOCAL CONTRACTORS TOO. I MEAN, DON'T GET ME WRONG, WE REALLY DO. I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IF SOMEONE IS THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER, YOU CAN GET YOURSELF INTO TROUBLE. IF, IF, IF, IF, IF YOU'RE MAKING AN EXCEPTION AND THAT PERSON IS THE LOWEST, LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER, AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, MAYBE $1 MILLION BETWEEN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT, THAT PROJECT AND LET'S SAY THE NEXT BIDDER. BUT WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE METRICS AND BUILT IN THE CONTRACT. WE CAN GIVE YOU SOME METRICS THAT, WELL, THAT SHOULD BE IN THE RFP, RIGHT? THAT SHOULD BE IN THE RUBRIC, THE ORIGINAL DEAL THAT FAVORS. I MEAN, LISTEN, THE WHAT'S THE CHAMBER SAY BY THE BASIN? RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, THERE'S A METRIC THAT GETS EXTRA. THERE IS, BUT THERE IS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT

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THAT CAP IS. I DON'T THINK I'LL GET WITH JAMES ON THAT. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IF IT'S LIKE A 10% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT I, I CAN'T REMEMBER FROM STATUTE, BUT THERE IS A, THERE IS A LINE THAT YOU CAN'T CROSS ON THAT THERE IS IT IS TREATED DIFFERENTLY WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH CAPITAL AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS LIKE THIS ONE. WHEN YOU'RE DOING STREETS AND ROADS, THE STATUTE DOES IS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPRESS WHEN IT SAYS LOWEST POSSIBLE OR LOWEST BETTER. AND THERE'S CERTAIN OTHER TYPES OF BIDDING PROCEDURES THAT ALLOW A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY TO PUT SOME CRITERIA IN YOUR NOTICE TO BIDDERS. AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT HERE, BUT ON THESE PROJECTS THAT COME, THEY FALL UNDER ANOTHER SECTION OF THE OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE LOWEST BIDDER. THAT'S THAT'S THE KEY IS, IS BECAUSE IT'S A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT TYPE PROJECT OR PUBLIC WORKS TYPE PROJECT.

THAT'S THE KEY. OKAY. THANKS, JAMES. THANKS, AARON. ALL RIGHT, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

[III.3. Discuss the adoption of an ordinance to authorize the collection of a fine by the City of Odessa Municipal Courts not to exceed the amount as authorized by state law for the offense of failure to appear and the offense of violate promise to appear.]

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE. DISCUSS THE ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE THE COLLECTION OF A FINE BY THE CITY OF ODESSA MUNICIPAL COURTS, NOT TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT AS AUTHORIZED BY THE STATE LAW. THE OFFENSE OF FAILURE TO APPEAR IN THE OFFENSE OF VIOLATE PROMISES TO APPEAR. CITY ATTORNEY. OKAY, THIS IS THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE RESULT OF MORE RECENT LEGISLATIVE CHANGES. WE HAVE THESE CONCEPTS KNOWN AS FAILURE TO APPEAR IN A VIOLATION PROMISE TO APPEAR. THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE TYPES OF OFFENSES. THE LEGISLATURE REVISED THE STATUTE. THERE'S BEEN SOME PRETTY RECENT AMENDMENTS IN TERMS OF WHAT AUTHORIZES CITIES TO IMPOSE A FINE AND ACTUALLY COLLECT ON THOSE FINES, AND THE LEGISLATURE REDUCED THE FINE TO A MAXIMUM OF $25. BUT THAT ALSO INCLUDED THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT AUTHORIZES THE FINE. WE DO NOT HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZES THAT VIOLATE PROMISE TO APPEAR AND FAILURE TO APPEAR FINE. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS GOING TO BE USED TO ACCOMPLISH.

AND THERE'S ANOTHER SECONDARY OR COROLLARY TO THAT, IN THE SENSE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE USING THESE FAILURE TO APPEAR AND VIOLATE PROMISED APPEARS AS THE BASIS FOR CAPIAS WARRANTS FOR FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WHO DO NOT SHOW UP FOR THEIR COURT PROCEEDINGS. AND, AND IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THE ORDINANCE THAT AUTHORIZES THE FINE BEFORE WE ISSUE WARRANTS.

WE JUST WANT TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THE LEGISLATURE MADE THAT CHANGE. I FIRST NOTICED THE CHANGE IN 23. THEY MADE SOME MORE CHANGES IN 25. SO IT'S JUST SOME RECENT LEGISLATIVE CHANGES, AND WE'RE JUST ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE TO KEEP PACE WITH THAT CHANGE. OKAY. I WANT TO SEE AN ORDINANCE. IS THERE A GRANDFATHER IN ON THIS DEAL? IS IT THE DOES THIS REVERT BACK TO A CERTAIN TIME OR WELL, GOING FORWARD TYPE DEAL? WHAT IS THIS, THE LEGISLATURE DIDN'T WE STILL HAVE FTAS AND THAT, YOU KNOW, VIOLATION PROMISED TO APPEAR. THOSE STILL APPLY. AND ANYONE WHO'S IN VIOLATION CAN STILL BE REQUIRED TO SHOW, CAUSE OR APPEAR AT COURT AND SHOW CAUSE WHY THEY DIDN'T APPEAR, BUT IN THE SENSE OF ASSESSING A FINE, THE WAY THE LEGISLATURE, THE WAY THE STATUTE READS, IT JUST SAYS THE, THE, THE GOVERNING BODY. AND SO IT PUTS IT ON THE COUNCIL OF A MUNICIPALITY MAY, BY ORDINANCE, PRESCRIBE THE COLLECTION OF A FINE NOT TO EXCEED $25 FOR THESE TWO TYPES OF OFFENSES. SO REALLY, IT'S THE ACTUAL FINE PORTION. BUT THERE'S OTHER THERE'S OTHER USES OF THE VIOLATION PROMISE TO APPEAR IN THE FAILURE TO APPEAR VIOLATIONS. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, FILING A COMPLAINT FOR THOSE CHARGES AND, AND HAVING THOSE CHARGES ENTERED INTO THE DPS OMNI SYSTEM. SO WE CAN ACTUALLY PLACE HOLDS ON DRIVER'S LICENSE. AND IT JUST, WE JUST TECHNICALLY, I MEAN, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE, WHERE THE STATUTES LIMITED IS NO FINE CAN BE ASSESSED UNTIL THE TO THE GOVERNING BODY OR THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS AN ORDINANCE AND THEN THE FINE IS CAPPED. THE FINE USED TO BE 200, BUT THE LEGISLATURE LOWERED IT. BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING MUCH MORE WITH FAILURE TO APPEARS IN VIOLATION OF PROMISE TO APPEARS THAN JUST PRESCRIBING A FINE. WE'RE ALSO ISSUING SHOW CAUSE WE'RE ISSUING THEY'RE GOING TO OMNI AND THEY'RE ALSO COULD BE THE BASIS OF A WARRANT. SO I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THAT ORDINANCE IN PLACE. AND THAT WAY THE CITY IS COVERED ON ALL GROUNDS TO GIVE THE COURT THE AUTHORITY TO UTILIZE THE FULL STRENGTH OF THAT ORDINANCE AND THE FULL STRENGTH OF THE STATUTE TO PENALIZE INDIVIDUALS WHO, YOU KNOW, DON'T APPEAR FOR COURT. AND SO, AS FAR AS GRANDFATHERING, THE LEGISLATURE DIDN'T REALLY ADDRESS IT, JUST THE LEGISLATURE ADOPTED A VERY SIMPLE STATUTE. YOU KNOW, IT'S UP IN THE AIR WHETHER THERE'S SOME GRANDFATHERING THERE, IF THE FENCE IS ALREADY IN, IF THE FENCE ALREADY OCCURRED BEFORE THE STATUTE, BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE MADE ITS CHANGE, IN MY OPINION, YOU KNOW, THIS CHANGE WOULD NOT TAKE EFFECT.

IT WOULD BE PROSPECTIVE IT WOULD NOT TAKE EFFECT UNTIL AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THIS LEGISLATION. THE GENERAL CASE LAW IS THE LAW THAT'S IN EFFECT AT THE TIME OF THE OFFENSE

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WOULD CONTROL. AND SO ANYBODY THAT HAS FTAS OR VIOLATION PROBLEMS APPEARS THAT ARE PENDING. THAT WAS BEFORE THIS LEGISLATIVE CHANGE. THOSE ARE STILL VALID, IN MY OPINION. BUT FOR THE FUTURE, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT ORDINANCE IN PLACE JUST TO SO WE CAN UTILIZE THE FULL STRENGTH OF THE ENFORCEMENT. YOU KNOW, THE ENFORCEMENT OF THESE FAILURE TO APPEAR IS IN VIOLATION OF PROMISE APPEARS. WE REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO SHOW UP IN COURT, AND IF THEY DON'T, THE MUNICIPAL COURT NEEDS TO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE WARRANTS.

AND DPS NEEDS TO HAVE THE GOOD, CLEAN AUTHORITY TO PLACE HOLDS ON DRIVER'S LICENSE. THANKS, JAMES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? JUST TO REITERATE THE THE FEES ON THAT THE SUGGESTED FEES BY THE STATE WAS 25. DID I HEAR RIGHT? THE USED TO BE 200. THAT'S THAT THAT PARTICULAR SECTION, THAT PARTICULAR. WELL, PART OF IT USED TO BE UNDER ARTICLE 45, THE CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE, ARTICLE 45 HAS BEEN DELETED. AND NOW WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED ARTICLE 45 A.

AND SO WHEN THE LEGISLATURE CAME BACK WITH ARTICLE 45 A, THEY GOT RID OF THE $200, THEY REDUCED IT TO $25 FINE. AND THAT WAS PART OF SOME OF THE LEGISLATIVE CHANGE THAT'S HAPPENED THE LAST COUPLE LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS, GETTING RID OF THE DRIVER RESPONSIBILITY PROGRAM. THE LEGISLATURE UNDERSTANDS THAT THE REAL FORCE AND THE REAL ENFORCEMENT HERE ON THE FAILURE TO APPEARS IS THE WARRANT AND THE CAPIAS, THE WARRANTS FOR FAILURE TO SHOW, AND ALSO FOR HOLDS ON DRIVER'S LICENSE. SO I BELIEVE THAT WAS PART OF THE MOTIVATION TO REDUCE THE FINE. BUT THE FINE WAS REDUCED BY STATUTE TO TO NOT TO EXCEED $25.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT ORDINANCE. WE'LL BRING IT

[III.4. Discuss possible revisions to the existing ordinance, including Article 2-3 “Dogs and Cats” § 2-3-1. (Maximum number of pets allowed) ]

BACK NEXT TIME. THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, SIR. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. DISCUSS POSSIBLE REVISIONS TO EXISTING ORDINANCE, INCLUDING ARTICLE 2.3 DOGS AND CATS. SECTION 2-3-1. THE MAXIMUM NUMBER ALLOWED. AARON. WELL, I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY WE HAVE AN ANIMAL AT LARGE PROBLEM IN THE CITY OF ODESSA. CHIEF, I CAN'T REMEMBER. DO WE HAVE MAYBE TEN CODE ENFORCEMENT? I'M SORRY, ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS, MAYBE TEN. CATS. HOW MANY POSITIONS? YEAH. SO YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE YOU HAVE 53MI■S AND TEN CODE. I'M SORRY, TEN ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS. SO I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF AREA FOR ONE PERSON TO CALL TO TO. TO COVER, IF YOU WILL, YOU KNOW, SO YOU GET ONE CALL. IT MIGHT TAKE 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR FOR THAT CODE, FOR THAT OFFICER TO, YOU KNOW, COME TO A CONCLUSION WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT DOG IS MOVING, RIGHT? THE CALLS COME IN, BUT THAT DOG IS MOVING. YOU KNOW, I SAW THAT AND. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE'VE GOT. WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A BIG PROBLEM. IT'S A, IT'S A BIG PROBLEM. IT'S A HEALTH AND SAFETY PROBLEM TO FIX THE PROBLEM. MAYBE WE CAN DO SOME THINGS WITH OUR WITH OUR LEGISLATION, WITH OUR ORDINANCES TO TRY AND HELP WITH THAT. BUT EVEN IF YOU CHANGE THE ORDINANCE TODAY, IT WILL TAKE YEARS FOR THAT TO KIND OF TO, TO, TO PAN OUT, IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST TAKES A WHILE. THE ANIMALS, YOU KNOW, YOU'D BE GRANDFATHERED IN, RIGHT? WE JUST KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT. SO HOW DO YOU EVEN PROVE THAT UP? YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THEY WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED IN OR NOT. JAMES. THAT WOULD BE KIND OF YOUR, YOUR, YOUR CALL ON THAT ONE. NO, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'LL BE ANY PROTECTION ON GRANDFATHERING. BUT I MEAN, IT JUST DEPENDS ON I MEAN, I HAVE ENTIRE I'VE BEEN EMAILING MAYOR PRO TEM STOKER ON THIS, BUT I DO HAVE A PROPOSED ENTIRELY NEW. OUR ANIMAL CONTROL PROVISIONS ARE UNDER CHAPTER TWO OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND I HAVE AN ENTIRELY NEW. CHAPTER TWO READY, AND IT'LL. IT'LL REPLACE IN ITS ENTIRETY THE CURRENT CHAPTER TWO, AND I CAN BE IN A POSITION TO HAVE THAT COUNCIL.

HOWEVER, COUNCIL WANTS TO ADDRESS IT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND. COUNCIL. YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO GO THROUGH IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ANY SECTION. IT'S A IT'S A REORGANIZATION, AND IT HAS A LOT MORE IN IT THAT I FIND THAT WAS MISSING IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES. AND SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF ONE LINGERING QUESTION IS THIS REGARDING WHAT, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WHAT WE CALL MULTI ANIMAL PERMITS. AND WHEN YOU HAVE DOGS AND CATS, AT WHAT POINT IS TOO MANY? WHAT POINT DOES THE CITY GOING TO WANT TO LOOK AT HAVING MULTI ANIMAL PERMITS FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DOGS OR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF CATS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DEALING WITH PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY DEFAULT THAT I'VE SEEN IS ANYWHERE FROM 4 TO 5.

AND SO THOSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL WILL PROBABLY WILL NEED TO, YOU KNOW, BE READY TO ANSWER WHAT NUMBER, YOU KNOW, IN WHICH CASE, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN ENTIRE PROHIBITION, BUT IT MAY TRIGGER THE NEED FOR A MULTI ANIMAL PERMIT, IN WHICH CASE THEY'LL NEED TO BE READY TO SHOW THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO TAKE CARE AND KEEP GOOD CLEAN SANITARY CONDITIONS IF THEY WANT MORE THAN FIVE DOGS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, DO THEY HAVE KENNEL

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FACILITIES? IT'S THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES. BUT THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME VARIABLES THERE THAT ARE GOING TO BE THAT COUNCIL WILL PROBABLY NEED TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON. AND SO THAT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM HERE IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PETS ALLOWED. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY RELEVANT. AND THAT RIGHT NOW I LITERALLY HAVE A BLANK. I GOT THE LANGUAGE AND I GOT A BLANK BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT DONE BOTH WAYS. I'VE SEEN IT BE THE ANYTHING MORE THAN THREE DOGS.

I THINK A LOT OF THE DEFAULT I'VE SEEN IS AROUND 4 TO 5, BUT IT VARIES BY THE CITY. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CITY AND WHAT THE WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN OUTRIGHT PROHIBITION. IT'S JUST ONCE YOU EXCEED A CERTAIN NUMBER OF ANIMALS, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A MULTI-ANIMAL PERMIT TO SHOW THAT YOU'RE CAPABLE OF TAKING CARE OF THOSE ANIMALS. I'VE, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD CITIES WHERE WE FIND 25 DOGS IN SOMEONE'S HOUSES. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE 25 DOGS IN SOMEONE HOUSES TURNS INTO 22 DOGS ON THE STREET WHEN THEY OPEN THE DOOR AND JUST LET THEM GO, WHICH I HAVE SEEN. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON WE HAVE THE MULTI-ANIMAL PERMIT TYPE ORDINANCES. AND, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WILL. IT'LL JUST BE ONE OF THOSE. THAT'S WHAT THAT WOULD BE. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE THAT I HAVE PREPARED.

WHAT WHAT DOES COUNCIL WANT TO SEE? AND SO THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS. BUT AT SOME POINT, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH OF AN ORDINANCE REVISION THAT COUNCIL WILL PROBABLY WANT AN ADVANCE COPY AND HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW AND GO THROUGH IT AND PROVIDE SOME OF THEIR COMMENTS AND MAKE SOME CHANGES TO SEE WHAT THEY SEE, WHAT THEY LIKE AND SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE. I THINK I'VE SENT TO AARON, I KNOW I HAVE 40 PLUS ANIMAL COMPLAINTS AND SOME OF THEM ARE BAD. AND YOU'VE SEEN THE VIDEO. THERE'S PIT BULLS THAT CAN JUMP FENCES THAT ARE SIX FOOT FENCES. AND THESE PEOPLE ARE SCARED. AND I DON'T BLAME THEM BECAUSE IF YOU SAW THE VIDEO, IT WAS THERE'S A LOT OF LOOK, I GOT, I GOT WHAT I CALL THE ZONE DEFENSE RULE. YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE KIDS THAN ADULTS. YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE DOGS THAN ADULTS. SO THAT'S WHAT I FEEL LIKE IS CRAZY TOO. IF YOU GOT A SPOUSE WITH TWO DOGS, YOU KNOW. WELL, I WILL TELL TELL YOU ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS THAT I WENT BACK AND, AND PREPARED A REVISED SORT OF A MODEL ANIMAL CONTROL ORDINANCE, WHICH IS WHAT I'VE USED NOW AND I'VE MADE SOME MORE UPDATES AND CHANGES IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE JUST POINTING TO IS THE WE SOMETIMES REFER TO AS AGGRESSIVE ANIMALS. AND THAT'S VERY, VERY ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED IN MY ORDINANCE. THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN. AND THE CONCERN. MOST OF THE PEOPLE I'VE HAD ARE PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS. THESE ANIMALS ARE BIG, STRONG DOGS, AND THEY'RE NOT BEING KEPT IN A YARD, AND THEY'RE CAPABLE OF ESCAPING A YARD, AND THEY'RE CREATING HAVOC FOR OUR CITIZENS. AND I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. THE NEW VERSION OF ORDINANCE THAT I HAVE WILL SQUARELY ADDRESSES THOSE ISSUES. APPRECIATE YOUR HAND UP. YEAH. SO LIKE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY JUST OPENED THEIR GATES IN THE MORNING AND THE DOGS ARE OUT ALL DAY. SO I'M CLEANING UP. I DON'T EVEN OWN DOGS, BUT I'M CLEANING UP MY OWN YARD BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY WIND UP AT. AND FOR SOME REASON IT'S MY YARD. I HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT WHY, BUT WE'RE CLEANING UP EVERY DAY, AND I WANT SOMETHING WRITTEN IN ABOUT A FENCE ORDINANCE. IF YOUR DOG'S OUT ROAMING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SOMETHING'S WRONG, I DON'T MIND. HE GOT OUT.

THAT'S THAT'S OKAY. THAT PART DOESN'T BOTHER ME. BUT WHEN IT'S EVERY DAY AND IT'S THE SAME DOGS EVERY DAY, EVERY DAY, EVERY DAY, IT'S THE EXACT SAME ONES. THERE'S A PROBLEM. AND I THINK YOU MAY HAVE TO ADD CHICKENS TO THIS, BECAUSE I'VE GOT A CHICKEN THAT COMES AND EATS ALL MY BIRD FOOD, ALL MY BIRD FEED IN THE MORNINGS, AND I THINK IT'S BECOMING A NUISANCE. BUT HE GOES BACK HOME AFTER HE FINISHES EATING, SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE HE'S COMING FROM. AND BUT HE IS IN MY FRONT YARD EATING EVERY MORNING AND HE DOESN'T RUN. HE'S WAITS ON ME TO PUT THE FEED OUT FOR HIM. SO. SUCKER MIGHT BE COMING BACK OUT OR EAT LUNCH. IT'S CALLED FRIED CHICKEN. IS THERE AN ORDINANCE AGAINST ME EATING LUNCH? YEAH, WELL, I THINK WE ALL WANT TO SEE SOMETHING. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE NEW CHAPTER TWO WHEN YOU HAVE IT FINISHED. AND LOOK, I, I LOVE DOGS. I KNOW THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT LOVE DOGS. THEY HAVE A LOT OF THEM. THEY TAKE CARE OF THEM WELL, BUT THEN THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT DOING IT AND THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME. THAT'S AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. I MEAN, IT'S IT REALLY IS THE FOLKS YOU SAID IT. I MEAN, PEOPLE LET THEIR ANIMALS OUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DAY TO LET THEIR DOG GO, WHATEVER. JUST ROAM. PEOPLE DO THIS ON PURPOSE. THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF THEIR PETS. AND BECAUSE OF IT, WE'VE GOT A PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE, RIGHT? I'M SORRY JAMES. NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT THESE THIS ORDINANCE, I MEAN, THE COMPLETE ORDINANCE IS ACTUALLY PROTECT OTHER DOGS AS MUCH AS THEY PROTECT THE PUBLIC.

I MEAN, THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF DOG PROTECTION PROVISIONS IN THE ORDINANCE THAT'S JUST NATURALLY BUILT IN IS BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON A JUST A LOT OF THE MODERN ORDINANCES. IT'S NOTHING NEW, BUT A LOT OF THEM ARE PROTECTION OF OTHER PEOPLE'S ANIMALS. RIGHT? AND SO A LOT, THERE'S A LOT OF PROTECTION PROVISIONS THAT'S ACTUALLY BUILT IN TO PROTECT

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OTHER DOGS. AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL SEE. SO I WILL GET WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM STOKER. I WANT TO GET HIM A DRAFT. AND WE'LL EITHER WE CAN BRING IT BACK AT WORKSHOP AND GIVE COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A COPY, AND THEN THEY CAN ALL HAVE A COPY TO GO THROUGH IT, READ LINE, BRING COMMENTS BACK THOSE TYPE. I'M JUST TRYING TO WORK OUT A PROCESS TO GET TO ALL THE COUNCIL, AS OPPOSED TO JUST BRINGING FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR ACTION. THAT WAY EVERYONE CAN GET A LOOK AT IT BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF CHANGES TO IT VERSUS OVER WHAT WE HAVE NOW. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THANKS, JAMES. WE APPRECIATE IT. MAYOR, WHILE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC, I'D STILL LIKE TO SPEAK UP THOUGH, BECAUSE IF WE HAVE IT ON THE ORDINANCE FOR SIX ANIMALS, I KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT BUMPED UP TO SIX, THAT TYPE OF THING. BUT THEY ARE FAMILY MEMBERS. ANYBODY THAT OWNS PETS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL IN INDIVIDUAL FAMILY. BACKING IT UP, DOWN TO THREE FOR AN EXAMPLE, THAT TYPE OF THING. I REALLY THINK THERE SHOULD BE A GRANDFATHER IN THERE. AND THAT'S EASY TO PROVE WITH THE VET RECORDS. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT HARD TO PROVE OR DO WHAT JAMES SAID. HAVE A WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? AN EXCEPTIONAL ANIMAL PERMIT. PERMIT MULTI-ANIMAL PERMIT. SO IF THEY WANT, THERE ARE SOME THAT TAKE CARE OF THEM. WELL, BUT JUST AN ARGUMENT FOR THAT TO. AND THAT'S. AND THAT'S THE THING WHEN WHEN COUNCIL GETS A DRAFT TO TO RAISE EXACTLY THOSE COMMENTS. THAT WAY IT GIVES ALL THE COUNCIL A CHANCE TO, TO, TO PROVIDE THOSE TYPES OF COMMENTS. AND ANY OF THOSE CAN BE ANY OF THAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, INPUT INTO THE ORDINANCE. HOWEVER, COUNCIL WISHES TO SEE THE FINAL ORDINANCE. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO IS GETTING COUNCIL'S COMMENTS AND PUTTING THOSE INTO AND THEN BRINGING A FINAL VERSION BACK FOR COUNCIL BY THE TIME IT COMES BACK IN A FINAL VERSION. COUNCIL HAVE ALREADY SEEN IT AND BE VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT. SO THAT WOULD BE MY PLAN. BUT I WILL START WITH MAYOR PRO TEM AND GIVE HIM A LET HIM TO GO THROUGH IT BECAUSE I THINK HE'S BEEN A GOOD BIT INVOLVED IN IT AS WELL. AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT TO COUNCIL. WE'LL BRING IT THROUGH. I'LL TRY TO. IF WE HAVE ROOM ON THE WORK SESSION, I'LL GET ON THE WORK SESSION. IF IT'S NOT THE NEXT ONE, THE

[III.5. Discuss and provide updates on capital improvement projects.]

EARLY JUNE BY THE LATEST. OKAY. THANKS, JAMES. ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN, LET'S MOVE ON. LET'S GO TO. LET'S. LOOKS LIKE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. DISCUSS PROVIDE UPDATES ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. AARON. SIR. YES, SIR. THAT'S YOUR BIG SHEET. SURE. I WANT TO APOLOGIZE THAT YOU GUYS JUST GOT THIS TODAY, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO. COUNCILMAN STOKER HAD BROUGHT THIS UP. OH, MAYBE SEVEN, EIGHT DAYS AGO ABOUT JUST AN UPDATE ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. AND WE. WE DIDN'T. SO I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO DO MOVING FORWARD IS WE WANT TO BRING THIS BACK TO YOU PROBABLY QUARTERLY. WE CAN LOOK AT THIS TODAY. NO PROBLEM. BUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS, IS JUST AS A RULE OF THUMB, KIND OF A STANDING REPORT THAT COMES BACK TO THE COUNCIL. WE WANT TO DO THIS PROBABLY QUARTERLY. SO THINK ABOUT THIS COMING BACK EVERY THREE MONTHS JUST TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE BUDGET. SO, YOU KNOW, AT THE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, YOU PASS A BUDGET AND THAT BUDGET, THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS. HOW ARE WE DOING ON THOSE PROJECTS? SO I THINK BRINGING IT BACK EVERY THREE MONTHS IS A GOOD IDEA. BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH KIND OF SOME OF THESE PROJECTS RIGHT NOW. BUT I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE WILL, WHERE WE WHERE WE REALLY WANT TO GO, LIKE I SAID, IS JUST KIND OF KEEPING THE COUNCIL INFORMED ABOUT WHERE ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AND IF, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, JOE, WOULD YOU MIND GIVING KIND OF AN UPDATE ON THESE. HITTING SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS, IF YOU WILL, AND JUST LETTING COUNCIL KIND OF GO THROUGH IT AND JUST ASKING ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE PARTICULAR ONES. AND THEN AFTER THAT, ALEX, IF YOU DON'T MIND. SURE. DO YOU HAVE DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THIS IN FRONT OF YOU? YES. OKAY. BUT SO JUST AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANY OF THOSE ON THERE THAT YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OR KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN GENERAL? YEAH, PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT WE DID OR WHAT I PROVIDED, AARON, IS KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT PROJECTS I'VE GOT IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW OR MID FISCAL YEAR. SO WE'VE GOT QUITE A BIT GOING ON. THE UNDER DESIGN IS PROJECTS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY EITHER WORKING ON WITH OUR STAFF OR WORKING ON WITH CONSULTANTS TO GET DESIGNED. THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT ON THE GROUND YET, BUT ALL OF THESE PROJECTS, TRACE REMAINS THE NEXT EIGHTH STREET PROJECT, WHICH WILL BE AT THE GRANDVIEW INTERSECTION, WILL BE REAL SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING AT DIXIE. IT'LL BE A NEW CONCRETE INTERSECTION, BUT WE'LL ALSO BE RECONSTRUCTING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SECOND. SO IT'LL BE A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT MORE 52ND PROJECT YOU JUST HEARD WERE GETTING READY TO BUILD THE FIRST PHASE. I WANT 52ND WILL EVENTUALLY BE REBUILT ALL THE WAY TO ANDREWS

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HIGHWAY. SO WE'RE ALREADY STARTING ON THAT DESIGN AND WE'RE DESIGNING IT FROM GRANDVIEW TO ANDREWS. THAT PROBABLY WILL BE 2 OR 3 PHASES OF CONSTRUCTION, SO YOU'LL PROBABLY BE SEEING THE NEXT PHASE AS A BUDGET REQUEST FOR NEXT YEAR TO PICK UP WHERE WE LEFT AT GRANDVIEW AND KEEP MOVING TO THE WEST. COUNCIL GAVE US SOME MONEY LAST YEAR TO DO SOME ADA IMPROVEMENTS. AFTER GIVING THAT SOME THOUGHT AND DISCUSSING IT WITH PARKS, JOHN AND I ARE WORKING ON. WE'VE IDENTIFIED FIVE PARKS PROJECTS, FIVE EXISTING PARKS, AND WE'RE WORKING ON INTERSECTIONS TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO THOSE PARKS. I FELT LIKE THAT'D BE A GOOD ADA IMPROVEMENT. PROJECTS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BENEFIT THE CITIZENS AND GET THEM BETTER ACCESS TO CITY FACILITIES. SO THAT'S IN DESIGN. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. SAN SABA AND SAN JOSE INTERSECTION. THAT'S AN INTERSECTION. COUNCIL, THOMPSON NOTICED, WAS DETERIORATING. WE WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT IT. I AGREE. WE STARTED THE SURVEY WORK AND IT NEEDS TO BE RECONSTRUCTED. WE'RE DOING THAT AS AN IN-HOUSE JOB. 56TH STREET IS ONGOING. WE'VE GOT DESIGN DONE, BUT WE'RE NEEDING RIGHT OF WAY. WE'VE IDENTIFIED ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY PARCELS, AND WE'RE NOW REACHING OUT TO RIGHT OF WAY AGENT TO HELP US SECURE THOSE PARCELS. SO THAT'S THAT'S COMING. AND AS WELL AS YUKON 191 TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT'S NEARLY COMPLETE. OUR CONSULTANTS JUST GAVE US 90% PLANS. WE'VE GIVEN THOSE FACTS OUT TO REVIEW BECAUSE THAT WILL BECOME A TEX DOT SIGNAL. BUT WE'RE ODC IS FUNDED THAT AND WE'RE PROGRESSING WITH THAT DESIGN. SO THAT'S A NUTSHELL OF WHAT'S UNDER DESIGN, WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT OR A COUPLE. JOE. SURE. ONE, WE, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T GET THE SIGNAL.

191 DONE FAST ENOUGH. I WENT THROUGH THERE AT 43415 THE OTHER NIGHT COMING IN FROM THE AIRPORT. AND THAT'S TERRIBLE. IT'S AWFUL. OKAY. I'M SURPRISED SOMEBODY HADN'T BEEN KILLED THERE YET ON THE. AND TXDOT HAS THAT RIGHT NOW. THEY'VE GOT THE 90% PLAN AT THIS POINT. SO ROUGHLY HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TXDOT TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH THEIR PROCESS? SO I THINK A FEW WEEKS AND FROM 90 TO 100% SHOULD BE A PRETTY QUICK TURNAROUND. OKAY. SO I EXPECT TO HAVE THAT OUT FOR BID IN PROBABLY JUNE, JULY. YEAH, IT WON'T BE FAST ENOUGH FOR ME THEN. I MEAN, WE ALL WE OUGHT TO PUSH THEM. I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY LEFT THOSE LIGHTS OUT OF THAT JOB, OUT OF THAT PROJECT. IT'S JUST RIDICULOUS. AND THEY SET THE PEDESTAL, SET THE ELECTRICITY UP. NO LIGHT POLES. IT MADE NO SENSE. YOU PAY FOR THAT. OH, OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S JUST IT'S UNACCEPTABLE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. ALSO, I WANT TO BACK UP TO, OF COURSE, 56 AND BILLY HEX. NOW, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT IN TWO PHASES. WE WERE GOING TO DO BILLY HEX TO FAUDREE AS ONE PHASE WHILE WE'RE ACQUIRING THE RIGHT OF WAY. YES. FOR THE OTHER PIECE THAT IS WILL BE A REQUEST FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO GET THAT BUDGETED AND, AND BUILD THE, THE FAUDREE TO BILLY HEX SECTION. BECAUSE WE DON'T WE HAVE NO WAY. I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY READY TO GO. IT'S READY TO GO. IT'S READY. OKAY. YES. THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO GET ON THAT ONE. I MEAN, YES, THAT'S AS WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH BUDGET, THAT'S ONE WE'VE IDENTIFIED TO PUT IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. DOES THE COUNTY HAVE ANY INVOLVEMENT IN THAT AS FAR AS THAT PARTICULAR IT'S CITY STREET, SO THEY DO NOT THEY BORDER IT. BUT IT'S IT'S OUR STREET. OKAY. WELL, WE WE NEED THAT. WE NEED TO ASK THEM. I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH

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JUDGE FAWCETT, BUT THAT INTERSECTION IS CLEARLY PART OF THE COUNTY, PART OF IT'S IN THE COUNTY. AND YES, THOSE PEOPLE IN PONDEROSA ONLY HAVE TWO WAYS IN AND OUT OF THERE. AND SO I THINK THE COUNTY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PART OF THAT WHOLE ROAD, IN MY OPINION. BUT I GUESS ALL WE CAN DO IS ASK. I MEAN, YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT'S ALL YOU CAN DO IS ASK. AND IT'S IT'S A LEGITIMATE ASK. I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHETHER YOU'RE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET OR SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET, YOU ARE A COUNTY RESIDENT. AND IF YOU'RE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET, YOU ARE ALSO A RESIDENT OF OF ODESSA. SO IT'S CERTAINLY A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL PROJECT TO BOTH COUNTY RESIDENTS AND TO COUNTY RESIDENTS WHO ARE ALSO ODESSA RESIDENTS. I'D LIKE TO PUT AN OFFICIAL REQUEST INTO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO ASK THEM TO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS, BUT SIMPLE. ASK. I THINK, A LETTER FROM. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A CITY ATTORNEY OR CITY. IT WOULD PROBABLY COME FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND THEN JUST, HEY, WE'VE WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS AND ARE OFFICIALLY REQUESTING, YOU KNOW, ASSISTANCE WITH FUNDING FOR A ROAD THAT OBVIOUSLY IS MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL TO BOTH. AGAIN, ECTOR COUNTY RESIDENTS AND ODESSA RESIDENTS WHO ARE ALSO ECTOR COUNTY RESIDENTS. I'D ASK FOR YOU TO DO THAT. I JUST ME PERSONALLY. SO BUT BECAUSE THAT ROAD'S NEEDED DESPERATELY. SO ANYWAY, I AGREE. LET'S DO IT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THE BOTTOM SECTION, THE BOTTOM HALF OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS WHAT WILL WORK UNDER CONSTRUCTION. NOW, THE MINERAL SEAL WERE ACTUALLY RESURFACING 47 MILES OF STREET IN DISTRICT ONE, PRETTY MUCH LARGE AREA FROM UNIVERSITY ALL THE WAY TO I-20 FROM DIXIE OVER TO GRANDVIEW FOR THE MOST PART. AND THAT'S THAT'S BEING DONE IN TWO PHASES. OUR CONTRACTORS WORKING TODAY. BUT AS TEMPERATURES RISE, HE CAN'T LAY THAT ASPHALT. SO ONCE IT HITS ABOUT 95 DEGREES, HE HAS TO HE'S DONE SO PROBABLY NEXT WEEK OR TWO, HE'LL PULL OFF AND THEN BE BACK IN THE FALL TO FINISH THAT JOB. SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF THE WAY THAT ONE WORKS. DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. Y'ALL ARE AWARE THAT'S A PROJECT WE'RE WORKING ON IN CONJUNCTION WITH ECTOR COUNTY. THAT'S IN THE EARLY STAGES, BUT THAT CONSULTANT IS WORKING. WE HAVE BIWEEKLY MEETINGS ON TO KEEP UP WITH HIS.

I'M TALKING ABOUT FLOOD STUDIES. SORRY, I SKIPPED ONE. MISCELLANEOUS DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS IS A PROJECT WE PUT TOGETHER ON THREE SEPARATE ISSUES THAT ARE NOT DRAINING PROPERLY, AND THAT CONTRACTOR DID JUST START. STORMWATER SYSTEM ASSESSMENT IS A PRETTY GOOD PROJECT. WE HIRED A CONSULTANT TO COME IN AND LOOK AT OUR UNDERGROUND STORMWATER SYSTEM. THEY'VE DONE MOST OF THAT WORK, A FEW OF THE AREAS WE HAD TO CLEAN AND HELP THEM GET INTO. WE FOUND SOME MANHOLES THAT HE COULDN'T GET INTO, SO THERE ARE SOME IDENTIFIED ISSUES ALREADY. WE SHOULD HAVE THAT FULL REPORT IN JUNE, AND AT THAT TIME, I'M SURE WE'LL ADDRESS OR IDENTIFY SOME STORMWATER PROJECTS THAT WILL COME OUT OF THAT. FARDRE ROAD. HAPPY TO SAY WE'RE NEARLY DONE. HAD TO PULL OFF A LITTLE BIT LIKE NINE FENCE CONSTRUCTION SO THAT WE COULD SHIFT TRAFFIC. THAT FENCE WILL BE DONE THIS WEEK, AND WE CAN DIVERT TRAFFIC TO ALLOW US TO FINISH THE THAT QUADRANT. ALL THAT'S LEFT ON THAT PROJECT IS THE I GET MY DIRECTIONS NORTHWEST QUADRANT, AND ONCE WE MOVE TRAFFIC OFF OF IT, THEY'LL FINISH THAT AND WE'LL BE OUT OF THERE. 52ND YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT THAT PROJECT IS GOING TO BE BID OUT TO JONES BROTHERS AND WILL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AS SOON AS WE GET CONTRACTS FINISHED. ONE THING I'LL ADD, BASED ON EARLIER CONSTRUCTION, IF WE GO TYPICALLY THE CITY IS ALWAYS JUST BID. WE DO OUR RF BS BID, TAKE LOW BID. IF WE GO TO RF

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P'S, OUR REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, YOU CAN FACTOR IN MULTIPLE THINGS. YOU CAN FACTOR IN. COST, OF COURSE IS GOING TO BE A BIG CONSIDERATION. YOU CAN ALLOW THE CONTRACTOR TO SET HIS OWN TIME. YOU CAN SAY, OKAY CONTRACTOR, HOW LONG IS THIS GOING TO TAKE AND PROVIDE A WEIGHTED SCORE TO THAT? SO IF YOU'VE GOT A CONTRACTOR THAT SAYS 90 DAYS AND ANOTHER ONE THAT SAYS 180, AND THE PRICE ISN'T VERY MUCH DIFFERENT, YOU CAN ACTUALLY WEIGHT THAT TO WHERE THE QUICKER CONTRACTOR WOULD GET THE JOB. JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. WE CAN, WE CAN CONSIDER DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT ARE YOU SAYING RFP VERSUS AN RFQ, RFP VERSUS RF BE RF BID? YES, RFP, YOU CAN PROVIDE A SCORING A CRITERIA. YEAH. AND AND WHAT YOU DO IS YOU SAY THIS, THIS PRICE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE YOUR BEST. IT MAY BE 50% OF THE SCORE QUALIFICATIONS, TIME. YOU CAN PROVIDE A SCORING CRITERIA FOR ITEMS THAT YOU IDENTIFY.

YOU WANT TO SEE. WELL, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF USING LOCAL CONTRACTORS WHEN WE CAN. AND YOU KNOW THAT DEBACLE AT 338. I KNOW THAT'S TEX DOT'S DEAL, BUT YEAH, YOU KNOW, THEY IT WAS AGAIN, THERE'S LOW BIDDER AND YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. AND I THINK IT'D BE A WAY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MAYBE USE. I KNOW WE CAN USE LOCAL CONTRACTORS IF THEY'RE WITHIN 10 OR 15%, SOME NUMBER. I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT IS IF AS LONG AS IT'S CLOSE. BUT YEAH, I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN ON CAPITAL. LET ME CLARIFY. THERE'S A THERE'S LIMITATIONS BASED ON THE KIND OF PROJECT REALLY WE'VE GOT CHAPTER 252, WHICH IS OUR DEFAULT COMPETITIVE BUILDING COMPETITIVE BIDDING SEAL COMPETITIVE BIDS. AND THEN WE'VE GOT WHAT'S CALLED CHAPTER 2269 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE THAT GIVES US ALTERNATIVE PROJECT DELIVERY METHODS. THOSE ARE OUR THOSE ARE OUR THOSE ARE OUR OPTIONS. AND RFPS AND RFQS ARE USED INTERCHANGEABLY, BUT RFPS ARE NOT AVAILABLE FOR EVERY KIND OF PROJECT. RFPS RFQS ARE MOST AVAILABLE FOR YOUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. AND IN SOME SENSES WHERE IT COMES IN, FOR EXAMPLE, ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING SERVICES. WE CAN'T COMPETITIVE BID THOSE. THAT'S WHERE THE RFP AND RFQ HAS TO COME IN, BECAUSE BY STATE LAW YOU CAN'T DO IT. SO A LOT OF IT IS THE TYPE OF PROJECT THAT WE CAN BID. SO REALLY WHAT WE CALL THE OUR DEFAULT IS COMPETITIVE BIDDING.

THAT'S OUR THAT'S OUR DIRECTIVE. THAT'S UNDER CHAPTER 252, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. BUT WE'VE GOT A LITTLE SMALL, SHORT LAUNDRY LIST OF OPTIONS DEPENDING ON THE KIND OF PROJECT THAT THAT'S UNDER THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. 2269. SO WE MAY HAVE SOME OPTIONS DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF PROJECT THAT GIVES MORE FLEXIBILITY TO THE CITY IN TERMS OF HOW THE CITY CAN ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, COMPLY WITH THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING, BUT HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY. AND, AND ACTUALLY WHAT THE ADVERTISEMENT CONTAINS. SO IT DEPENDS ON THE PROJECT. SO WE'LL HAVE TO TREAD CAREFULLY ON THAT. AND THEN RFPS AND RFQS ARE THOSE ARE I MEAN, IN MY OPINION, THOSE ARE OVERUSED. A LOT OF THINGS FOR RFPS AND RFQS REALLY. BUT SOMETIMES IT'S IT REALLY IS COMPETITIVELY BID AND THEY JUST CALL IT AN RFP. SO IT'S JUST A IT'S NOT CALLING EVERY SODA COKE. THEY JUST CALL IT AN RFP, BUT THEY'RE DOING IT CORRECTLY.

THEY JUST USE THE RFP AS A COLLOQUIAL PHRASE FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY USE TO BID FOR IT. WE JUST GOT TO BE CAREFUL ON WHAT THE KIND OF PROJECT IT IS DETERMINED, YOU KNOW, AND MAKING THE DECISION ON WHAT AND HOW IT'S ADVERTISED. WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WATCHING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING WE'RE BIDDING THESE THINGS AND WE SEE A, THE QUALITY, THE PRICE, THE QUALITY OF THE WORK AND HOW LONG IT TAKES, YOU KNOW, AND WHO BETTER THAN US TO, TO LOOK AT THAT LAUNDRY LIST AND SAY, WELL, THIS GUY IS CHEAP, YOU KNOW, BUT HE'S SLOW AND THIS GUY'S, YOU KNOW, NEVER SHOWS UP ON TIME. AND, AND THE QUALITY OF HIS WORK IS BAD, YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER. AND LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE SOME KIND OF A GRADING SYSTEM TO GO THROUGH TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHO WE WANT TO DO THE JOB BECAUSE OUR PEOPLE KNOW FROM INSPECTING THE JOBS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHICH ONES DO GOOD WORK, WHICH ONES DON'T. YEAH.

AND WE JUST, WE CAN ADDRESS A LOT OF THAT IN OUR NOTICE TO BIDDERS. AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY

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SET SOME CRITERIA IN THERE SO THAT THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE EASIEST AND THE BEST APPROACH TO. YOU CAN ACTUALLY SET SOME DIFFERENT CRITERIA. THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS WHERE IN CERTAIN TYPES OF BIDDING PROCEDURES, WHERE LOCAL OR REALLY NOT SO MUCH LOCAL, BUT PAST EXPERIENCE CONTRACTORS WITH WHICH THE CITY HAS CONTRACTED WITH IN THE PAST CAN BE USED AS A CRITERIA, OR FOR ME OR THIS CONTRACTOR, THEY'VE DONE X NUMBER OF JOBS SUCCESSFULLY FOR THE CITY THAT CAN BE USED AS CRITERIA IN REVIEWING BIDS. SO WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT THE PROJECT AND ALSO THE NOTICE TO BIDDERS. THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE KEY TO MAKE CERTAIN WE HAVE THOSE NOTICE TO BIDDERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY ADVERTISED, ADEQUATELY EXPLAINED AND LISTED. SO ALL THE BIDDERS HAVE A FAIR CHANCE AT OKAY, THIS IS THE CRITERIA THAT'S GOING TO BE APPLIED. LET ME SUBMIT MY BID WITH ALL THOSE CRITERIA INCLUDED OR SO HOW I CAN MEET THOSE CRITERIA. PUT IT THAT WAY. YEAH, I THINK WE'RE AGREEING ON THAT. WE'LL WORK TOGETHER ON THAT, MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT IT COVERED. OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF LOCAL CONTRACTORS. AND YOU KNOW, WE GOT A LOT WE GOT WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DO A LOT OF THE JOBS THAT SOMETIMES WE SEND OUT A TOWN LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THAT JOB UP ON WEST COUNTY ROAD. WHERE DID THAT JOB GO TO COME FROM? FROM NEBRASKA OR SOMEWHERE? YES, WE'RE OUT OF OKLAHOMA OR SOMEWHERE. YEAH, THEY'RE NOT LOCAL. THEY'RE NOT LOCAL. AND THAT'S A BIG JOB. YES. THAT KIND OF RUBBED ME THE RUBBED ME THE WRONG WAY WHEN WE DID THAT. BUT UNDER THE CRITERIA WE HAD TO ACCEPT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST AN OLD MAN'S THOUGHTS. OKAY, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY. I'LL FINISH UP BECAUSE I KNOW ALEX HAS SOME TO TALK ABOUT AS WELL. 23RD STREET IS A PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN OUT. THAT ONE'S READY TO GO. WE'RE JUST FINALIZING THE THE CONTRACTS ON THAT. IT'S A RECONSTRUCTION FROM ANDREWS HIGHWAY OVER TO DIXIE. EIGHTH AND DIXIE ARE VERY AWARE OF. IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH THERE, THAT'S A. IT'S IT'S ON SCHEDULE. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S TAKEN SOME TIME, BUT IT IS WHERE IT LIKE WE'RE IN PHASE THREE OF FOUR AND THEY'VE USED ABOUT 50% OF THEIR TIME. BUT WE ARE CONSTANTLY TALKING TO THEM ABOUT KEEPING IT MOVING FORWARD. IF WE SEE THEM NOT THERE, WE'RE ASKING WHY. SO WE WANT THEM TO GET IN OUT OF THERE. AND LAST IS ANOTHER SMALL STREET WE DID IN-HOUSE. IT JUST IT'S RECONSTRUCTION OF FRENCH. NOT MANY PEOPLE EVEN KNOW IT HAPPENED BECAUSE IT'S OUT IN OUT OF NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU DON'T DRIVE THROUGH EVERY DAY. BUT IT WAS AN INVERTED STREET THAT CARRIES A LOT OF WATER, HAD DETERIORATED PRETTY BADLY FROM THE WATER. AND, AND IT IS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE. WE'RE WE'RE PAVED OUT THERE. SO WE'RE ABOUT ABOUT TO FINISH IT UP. BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT GOING ON.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN, WE DID GET THE LADY TAKEN CARE OF ON FRENCH. YEAH. AND HER NUMBERS. YES. YEAH. WE WE CLEANED IT UP ON THAT LITTLE FRENCH. OKAY.

THANK YOU JOE. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO ALEX. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU JOE. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO I TOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT APPROACH ON THIS ONE. I JUST SPLIT SOME OF I TOOK A 30,000 FOOT VIEW ON THIS AND JUST KIND OF WENT THROUGH JUST SOME OF OUR LARGE CIP PROJECTS. I DO HAVE IT BROKEN OUT ON ONE OF MY SPREADSHEETS. IF YOU GUYS ASKED ABOUT ANY OF THE OTHER PROJECTS, BUT I BROKE IT INTO WATER AND WASTEWATER, LARGE CIP PROJECTS SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. AS OF LAST WEEK, WE DID RECEIVE A SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION LETTER FROM THE CONTRACTOR. SO OUR ENGINEER HAS BEEN ON SITE REVIEWING ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION TO SEE WHERE THE CONTRACTOR IS AT. WE CAME UP WITH A LIST OF ABOUT 60 ITEMS THAT FROM THAT FROM LAST WEEK THAT THEY HAVE KNOCKED DOWN TO ABOUT TEN. SO WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO ISSUING A SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION TO THE CONTRACTOR AT THE WATER PLANT. SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS THERE. THEY'VE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS, SEVEN MONTHS TO REALLY WRAP THIS PROJECT UP. SO WE'RE WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT ONE. COUNTY ROAD WEST IS A UPSIZING AND REPLACEMENT OF AN EIGHT INCH WATER LINE TO A 12 INCH WATER LINE THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED. THE CONTRACTOR IS APPROXIMATELY 45%

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COMPLETE. THEY DO HAVE A DEADLINE OF SEPTEMBER DUE TO TXDOT REPAVING THAT RESURFACING THAT ROAD THERE, RESURFACING THAT ROAD FROM SECOND STREET ALL THE WAY TO KERMIT HIGHWAY, WHICH ARE WATER LINE REPLACEMENT IS FROM 13TH STREET TO KERMIT HIGHWAY. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE ON SCHEDULE. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME TRAFFIC CONTROL ISSUES. IT IS A VERY BUSY STREET AS AS ALL OF US KNOW, BUT AS OF LATE IT HAS GOTTEN BETTER. WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED AS MANY PHONE CALLS TO THE DEPARTMENT, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THEY'RE AT 45% COMPLETE.

WE DO HAVE OUR VALVE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH WE DID RECEIVE SOME MONEY, 9.5 MILLION. WE DID DO THREE LARGE VALVE REPLACEMENTS, A 30 INCH AND 220 FOURS UP THERE CLOSE TO SHERWOOD PARK. BOTH OF THOSE WERE ON TWO LARGE TRANSMISSION MAINS, WHERE WE DID HAVE PREVIOUS LINE BREAKS THAT ACTUALLY DID SHUT THE CITY DOWN. SO WE DID REPLACE THOSE. IF YOU LOOK AT IN THE NEXT SECTION IN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER JOB ORDER CONTRACT, THE BOTTOM VALVES RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THIS IN FRONT OF PERMIAN HIGH SCHOOL, WE HAD TO SHUT THE CITY DOWN THERE A COUPLE YEARS BACK. SO WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING SEVERAL VALVE REPLACEMENTS WHEN SCHOOL IS OUT. SO WE SHOULD BE. AND THAT AGAIN IS ANOTHER LARGE TRANSMISSION MAIN FOR US TO GET SOME VALVES REPLACED ON. SO. WE CAN DROP DOWN TO THE WASTEWATER. ON THE CURRENT PROJECTS. WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON A SCOPE AND FEE FOR DESIGN FOR THE DARRINGTON. WE'VE RECEIVED THAT FROM THE ENGINEER THAT WAS SELECTED FROM THE RFQ. AND SO AT THIS POINT, WE'RE INTERNALLY REVIEWING THAT SCOPE AND FEE. AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD. WE ARE PLANNING TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL IN JUNE. SO THAT WOULD BE TO TO SELECT THE CONTRACTOR, GET INTO CONTRACT WITH THEM FOR DESIGN FOR THAT ENTIRE ENTIRE NEW FACILITY. SO WE'RE EXPECTING THAT COST TO BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 40 MILLION. ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE PROJECTS ON THAT LAST STATEMENT? THAT'S JUST THE DESIGN IS JUST THE DESIGN WE'RE LOOKING THE DESIGN BEING 10% OF CONSTRUCTION FOR A NEW FACILITY. YES, SIR. HOW LONG IS TO ESTIMATE THE LENGTH OF THAT STUDY? JUST THE DESIGN. DESIGN IS SOMEWHERE AROUND TWO AND A HALF YEARS FOR A FULL DESIGN, IT WOULD HAVE 2 TO 2 AND A HALF YEARS. YES, SIR. 2 TO 2 AND A HALF YEARS. WHAT HAPPENS IN THE MEANTIME? IF THE PLAN FAILS? WE ARE WE ARE DOING I. SO I WILL SAY THIS WE DID HAVE WHEN WHEN WHEN COROLLA WAS HERE, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE ELECTRICAL ISSUES. WE DID HAVE A CONTRACTOR COME OUT AND HELP US DO A HEATED IR SCAN OF OUR CURRENT MCRS. AND WHAT THEY WERE ABLE TO DO IS ACTUALLY TAKE THOSE OUT AND RERACK THEM INTO CERTAIN BUSBARS, WHICH WERE NEXT TO THEM FOR SOME EXPANSIONS THAT JUST NEVER GOT, NEVER WAS COMPLETED AT THE PLANT. SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE RERACKED SOME OF THE MCCS THAT WERE GIVING US ARC FLASHES OR ISSUES. AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT HAS WORKED AND IT HAS. WE HAVEN'T HAD AS MANY. IT'S ONLY BEEN ABOUT TWO WEEKS, SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS OUR ELECTRICAL ISSUE MOVING FORWARD. SO THAT IS A THAT'S A REALLY BIG PLUS FOR US THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO. OKAY. DID YOU SAY SOME OF THAT 40 MILLION GOES TOWARD THE 400 MILLION? NO, THAT'S JUST THAT IS JUST THE DESIGN. JUST THE DESIGN THAT DOES NOT THAT DOES NOT FEED INTO CONSTRUCTION. NO, SIR. OF 40 MILLION IS $4 MILLION IS WHAT THIS DESIGN IS PROBABLY GOING TO COST FOR 40 MILLION, 40 MILLION, 40 MILLION, 10%. THAT'S 410% OF CONSTRUCTION, 400 MILLION, 40 MILLION. YEAH. 40 MILLION. YEAH, THAT'S THE POINT. THAT'S A THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE ON, ON THIS PROJECT THOUGH. SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT CAD SYSTEM, SO YOU CAN DESIGN THIS, THIS IS A, THIS WILL BE A FULL TIME JOB FOR A LOT OF ENGINEERS. I BELIEVE THERE'S OVER 50 ENGINEERS WORKING ON THIS WITH CAROLLO FULL TIME. SO. AND THE TREATMENT SPECIALISTS THAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR TEAM IS THEIR NATIONAL. HE WAS HERE, TOSHIO. HE IS THEIR NATIONAL FIRM TREATMENT SPECIALIST FOR WASTEWATER FACILITIES. SO WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE THEM. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK THIS COUNCIL FOR ACTUALLY DOING THIS. YEAH. THIS IS A THIS IS A BIG DEAL TO ACTUALLY GO FORWARD WITH THIS. AND AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS SO MANY CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE REALITY IN FRONT OF THEM, WHICH IS THEIR

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INFRASTRUCTURE HAS TO BE REPLACED. AND SO THIS IS THIS IS A BIG STEP FORWARD. IT'S A REALLY BIG STEP FORWARD. WELL, AS WE ALWAYS SAY, IF WE DON'T DO IT NOW, IT'S GOING TO BE DOUBLE NEXT TIME. WE WANT TO TRY TO GET IT DONE. UNFORTUNATELY, IT MIGHT BE EVEN MORE THAN THAT. YEAH, WE WE, WE RECOGNIZED INFLATION OUT OF OUT OF COVID. THAT STILL HASN'T CORRECTED ITSELF. RIGHT. DOUBLE WHAT IT WAS PRE-COVID. RIGHT. WE COULD ABSOLUTELY SHUT THIS CITY DOWN, HAVE THE CITY SHUT DOWN. IF YOU DON'T FIX THIS, RIGHT. YOU CAN'T FUNCTION. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T USE THE RESTROOM, YOU CAN'T TAKE A SHOWER, YOU CAN'T BRUSH YOUR TEETH. THERE'S NO YOU HAVE TO DO IT. IT'S JUST IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY UGLY. YEAH. I THINK WE ALL CAN AGREE. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. THAT'S LIKE CRAZY. A LOT OF MONEY. IT IS. IN THE MEANTIME, THOUGH, YOU HAVE AN INCREDIBLY DEDICATED STAFF OUT THERE WHO ARE REALLY BRIGHT AND THEY IMPROVISE AND THEY ADAPT AND THEY WORK WITH, WITH, WITH ALEX AND JILL AND OUR OTHER ENGINEERS AS WELL TO KEEP THIS THING GOING. SO IT'S NOT A CRITICISM. AND OH, I KNOW IN THIS COUNCIL THAT SINCE 1990 WE HAD WORKED ON IT. IT'S WHAT IS IT, 1970. SO IT'S 50 PLUS YEARS OLD AND IT'S BEEN NEGLECTED. I HATE TO SAY THAT, BUT IT'S BEEN NEGLECTED. THEY WEREN'T GIVEN THEY WEREN'T GIVEN THE FUNDS TO DO THEIR JOB PROPERLY. THEY WEREN'T GIVEN THE FUNDS TO, TO REPLACE THINGS AS THEY WENT ALONG. IT WAS JUST AGAIN, IT'S THAT OLD SAYING THAT WAS THE CAN WAS KICKED DOWN THE ROAD. IT JUST WAS. AND SO NOW YOU'RE DEALING WITH IT AND AGAIN, YOU'RE DEALING WITH IT, WHICH IS A WIN FINALLY. OKAY. THANKS, ALEX. YES, SIR. KEEP GOING. SO NEXT THE NEXT SECTION DOWN IS OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER JOB ORDER CONTRACT. SO THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT HELPS US REPLACE NEIGHBORHOOD WATER LINES, SEWER LINES, FIRE HYDRANTS. THEY HELP US WITH WATER AND SEWER TAPS FOR RESIDENTS. THEY HELP US WITH QUITE A LOT OF THINGS. AND WE RENEW THIS ABOUT EVERY 3 TO 5 YEARS, DEPENDING ON IF THERE'S AN EXTENSION WITHIN THE CONTRACT. WE'RE CURRENTLY ON YEAR TWO OF THAT. THESE ARE THE CURRENT PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE COMPLETED THIS YEAR. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER, WE'VE REPLACED A TOTAL OF 5556 LINEAR FEET OF WATER LINES AND 1893FT OF WASTEWATER LINES. THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ALL IN HOUSE, WE DESIGN IN HOUSE. AND THEN ANY THAT ANY EMERGENCIES THAT POP UP OR ANY ISSUES, YOU KNOW, WE HANDLE THAT WITHOUT THAT THROUGH THAT CONTRACT. SO. AND THEN SOME OF THE FUTURE CIP PROJECTS THAT WE SHOW JOE SPOKE ON 56TH STREET.

WE HAVE KIMLEY-HORN, WHO HAS IS THE DESIGN ENGINEER ON THAT PROJECT. THEY ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO GET THE WATER LINE DESIGN COMPLETE, SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START WITH CONSTRUCTION THERE. THE WATER LINE HAS TO BE IN BEFORE JOE CAN START HIS ROADWAY PROJECTS WITH THAT ONE. SO THEY DO HAVE A COMPLETION. WE JUST GOT THAT ROUTED THE THAT CONTRACT ROUTED FROM YOU GUYS AND APPROVED IN THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. SO IT SHOULD BE ABOUT SIX MONTHS FOR DESIGN. AND THEN AFTER THAT WE'LL GO STRAIGHT TO BID. WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR THAT IN THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR ALSO. SO. DESIGN WILL START. IT'S STARTING RIGHT NOW FOR THAT.

YES. WE'RE JUST WRITING THE CONTRACT. SO ONCE WE GET THE CONTRACT, I THINK WE HAVE A KICKOFF DATE NEXT WEEK TO START THAT PROJECT. THAT'S THAT'S THE BEST FOR THE WHOLE LENGTH.

THAT'S JUST THE WATER LINE. AND THAT IS THE WATER LINE FROM 338 ALL THE WAY TO HOOKING IT IN AROUND THE PADRE AREA, IT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY COME DOWN ESTANCIA AND HOOK INTO THE SERVICE ROAD. YES, SIR. YEAH. AND THEN THE NEXT PROJECT, LANCASTER, THAT IS A PROJECT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS FOR FROM THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL. WHEN THEY GAVE US THE VALVE REPLACEMENT DOLLARS ALSO. SO ONCE COUNTY ROAD WEST IS COMPLETE, THEN WE WILL GO INTO ANOTHER PHASE OF A SIP WATER LINE PROJECT, WHICH WILL BE IT STARTS AROUND ANDREWS HIGHWAY AND GOES EAST ON JACKSON, RUNS UP LANCASTER ROAD AND THEN ALSO GOES UP. IT GOES UP LANCASTER AND THEN NORTH. AND THEN WHEN LANCASTER GOES RIGHT, IT THEN GOES, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 8000FT OF 12 INCH WATER LINE. SO WE DO HAVE CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS FOR THAT.

DESIGN IS ALREADY COMPLETE. LCA DID THE DESIGN SO IT'S SHELF READY. SO ONCE WE GET TO SUBSTANTIAL ON COUNTY ROAD WEST, THEN WE WILL GO TO BID FOR THAT PROJECT. AND WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER CIP PROJECT. OKAY. SO ALEX, IS IT IS IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT, FOR THE WATER LINE TO BE I MEAN, I WONDER DESIGN NOW FOR 56, JOE'S GOT 56. DOES OUR DESIGN FROM BILLY

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HICKS TO FAUDREE. IS THERE ANY WAY TO COORDINATE ALL THAT WHERE WE GET THE WATER LINE IN, GO IN AND DO PHASE ONE OF PAY 56 BEFORE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR? POSSIBILITY. THAT WAS TOO MUCH OF A STRETCH. SO DESIGN FOR US WILL TAKE SIX MONTHS. WE'LL BE INTO NEXT FISCAL YEAR ANYWAYS AT THAT POINT, SO BE IN OCTOBER. YES, SIR. SO ANSWERS NO. YES. NO SIR. BUT ONCE WE DO GET IT.

YEAH. YES SIR. NO SIR. BUT YES, IT'LL BE IN NEXT FISCAL YEAR ANYWAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR IT IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. AND THEN ONCE THE DESIGN IS COMPLETE WE CAN START ON. I KNOW JOE WAS TALKING ABOUT DOING BILLY HICKS TO TO FAUDREE. WE COULD WORK ON THAT PORTION OF THE WATER LINE, INSTALL THAT PORTION FIRST TO WHERE JOE COULD START HIS, AND THEN WE COULD BACKTRACK AND BUILD IT FROM BILLY HICKS TO 338 IF NEEDED. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. YES, WE CAN DO THAT. YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO USE HALF OF. IT WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS HELP. ABSOLUTELY. AS FAR AS CONTROLLING TRAFFIC. YES, SIR.

SO I WAS THINKING WE WILL DO THAT. WE WILL COORDINATE. I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE JILL AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON THE ELEVATED 2 MILLION GALLON STORAGE TOWER AND A 24 INCH WATER LINE EXTENSION. THIS IS THE EXTENSION FROM 100TH STREET THAT WILL GO EAST ALL THE WAY TO THROUGH THE HERTZ PROPERTY, TO THE BELL'S PROPERTY, AND THEN HOOK INTO FAUDREE. SO WE HAVE CURRENTLY RECEIVED THE EASEMENT DOCUMENTS FROM KIMLEY-HORN. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING WITH THOSE THOSE LANDOWNERS AT THIS TIME. WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THOSE EASEMENTS AND RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE NEED FOR THAT WATER LINE.

AND THEN ONCE THAT IS SET IN STONE, THEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO PUSH FORWARD AND CONTINUE THE DESIGN FOR THAT PROJECT. OKAY, COOL THINGS. AND THEN I PUT ON THERE THE CONSTRUCTION COST FOR THE DARRINGTON WASTEWATER FACILITY. I KNOW IT CAUSED ME TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK. YES, SIR. WE WE DO HAVE SOME. WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER PROJECTS WE CAN GET INTO OR I JUST KIND OF REALLY JUST FIGURED WE WOULD JUST GIVE YOU AN UP, YOU KNOW, A 30,000 FOOT OF JUST OUR LARGE CIP PROJECTS. ANY QUESTIONS? NO. YES. THE THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK. YES, SIR. WHAT'S THE TIMING ON IT? SO. THAT DEPENDS ON HOW FAST THE CITY WANTS TO GO. SO AS LONG IF WE WANT TO TO, TO SEE GROWTH IN THAT AREA AND MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN HAVE THE AND THE FUNDING. IT'S A FUNDING ASPECT. SO RIGHT NOW THE FUNDING FOR THAT, THE DESIGN IS PAID FOR THAT COST FOR THE WATER LINE. AND THE ELEVATED TOWER LOOKS TO BE AROUND $37.5 MILLION. SO WHERE WE COME UP WITH THE MONEY FROM, THAT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF HOW, HOW FAST AND HOW OR HOW SLOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. WE DO HAVE FUNDS WITHIN PIONEER, BUT WE HAVE A LARGE SCALE PROJECT AT THE DARRINGTON THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE TO, AND THAT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO START THAT DESIGN. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE QUITE A BIT OF THE PIONEER MONEY FOR FOR THAT PROJECT. WE DO HAVE SOME DOLLARS WITHIN THE WATER SEWER FUND, I DON'T KNOW TO THE EXACT AMOUNT, BUT THERE ARE SOME DOLLARS THAT COULD START THE PROJECT AND GET THAT PROJECT GOING. BUT IT'S IT DEPENDS ON HOW FAST WE'RE ABLE TO GET THOSE. IF FUNDING WERE IN PLACE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ONLINE BY EARLY 2029, LATE 2028. IF WE IF IF WE HAD THE DOLLARS RIGHT NOW, YEAH, WE COULD WE COULD HAVE THIS THING BUILT BY 2020, END OF 2028. AND BY THE WAY, ON THE 21ST, WE HAVE OUR WE HAVE A MEETING WITH MOODY'S. SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE DO. YEAH. WITH MOODY'S, YES. IF WE IF WE HAD MONEY, WE COULD HAVE THIS THE WATER TOWER INSTALLED AND IN PLACE LATE 2028. OH, SHOULD WE HAVE DO WE HAVE A GRANT FOR THAT AT ONE TIME FROM TEXAS WATER. SO SO WE WE DID LOOK AT DOING THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD FOR THAT PROJECT. IT WAS JUST THE DEFUND.

IT WAS JUST A LOW INTEREST LOAN AT THAT TIME. AND THEN AT THE TIME, WE DIDN'T HAVE OUR AUDIT'S COMPLETE. WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUR AUDITS COMPLETED. AND SO I THINK AARON JUST MENTIONED THE MOODY'S MEETING WITH THEM. SO IF WE WANT TO LOOK INTO A LOW INTEREST LOAN FROM THEM, WE ALSO YOUR EMAIL ON THE SIG GRANT WE ARE PUTTING IN ON THAT GRANT. IT'S JULY, SO WE HAVE THAT WEBINAR ACTUALLY, I THINK AT THAT WEBINAR IS TOMORROW MORNING. SO WE'RE GOING TO SIT IN ON THAT WEBINAR AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN GET THE FUNDING FOR THAT. I DO RECALL THAT THE CITY FOR OUR POPULATION SIZE, THEY HAVE A CAP FOR THAT GRANT FUNDING. I THINK IT'S $21 MILLION IS WHAT WE COULD GET. SO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO SHOOT FOR ALL OF THAT. WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN FOR MULTIPLE PROJECTS ACROSS THE BOARD, THE NEW TOWER, ANY WORK

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ON OUR EXISTING TOWERS, ANY DISTRIBUTION LINES THAT THAT NEED TO BE REHABILITATED, OR NEW LINE CIP PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN ON THAT. SO HOPEFULLY WE'RE ABLE TO GET SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS. OKAY. THANKS. SPEAKING OF GRANTS, WE WE DO HAVE A GRANT WRITER THAT WILL BE ON STAFF ON JUNE 1ST. SO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND WE WILL BE WORKING WITH HER REALLY ON WHAT OUR PRIORITY PROJECTS ARE FIRST, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE LIKE EVERYBODY, YOU CAN GET INUNDATED WITH A WHOLE LOT OF GRANTS. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE'S HONED IN ON WHAT WE THINK THE PRIORITY IS. AND I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND WATER AND SEWER ARE PROBABLY THE TOP PRIORITIES AT THIS POINT. THANKS. THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, ALEX? WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALEX. ALL

[III.6. Discuss City code violations and fines.]

RIGHT. LET'S MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX. DISCUSS CITY CODE VIOLATIONS AND FINES.

AARON. SO AGAIN, THIS KIND OF CAME OUT OF ANOTHER CONVERSATION LAST WEEK ABOUT WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT ONE BUILDING ON, ON GRANT STREET? HOW DO WE GET THAT THING KNOCKED DOWN? IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, CONDEMNED FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW. AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT CAME BACK AS A LARGE. THE BID CAME BACK HIGH, BUT OR THE QUOTE CAME BACK HIGH.

SO WE'RE GETTING ANOTHER QUOTE. AND I DO THINK IT'S IT MAKES SENSE TO GET AT LEAST TWO QUOTES. THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DO THIS, THAT TEAR DOWN THIS TYPE OF BUILDING, PARTICULARLY ONE THAT'S KIND OF TIED INTO ANOTHER BUILDING. SO IT'S JUST NOT LIKE ANYBODY CAN JUST DEMO THIS THING. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS GET THE SECOND QUOTE, FIND OUT WHICH ONE IS THE BETTER ONE, OBVIOUSLY, THAT THE TWO COMPANIES SEE WHICH ONE WE LIKE BETTER AND GO WITH THE LOWER ONE, OF COURSE. BUT THE QUESTION CAME UP, WELL, CAN YOU JUST CONTINUALLY CAN CAN THESE PEOPLE BE FINED IN PERPETUITY? WHY SHOULD THE CITY PAY TO HAVE SOMETHING DEMOED WHEN IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY? AND I SAID, WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THAT'S A GOOD LEGAL QUESTION AS WELL. YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE WHAT KIND OF TEETH DO WE HAVE? WHAT KIND OF, WHAT KIND OF OUTLET DO WE HAVE? COULD WE NOT TEAR IT DOWN AND JUST FIND THIS PERSON IN PERPETUITY FOR EVERY DAY THAT IT'S NOT IN COMPLIANCE? I THINK I'LL LET JAMES KIND OF SPEAK TO THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE DOES COME A POINT WHERE SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T CARE AND THE STRUCTURE IS JUST THERE AND IT'S GOING TO A TRUST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR IT'S GOING TO AN AIR THAT DOESN'T EVEN KNOW THEY HAVE IT. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE IS CERTAINLY A TIME WHEN IT MAKES SENSE FOR A CITY TO DEMO SOMETHING. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU JUST CAN YOU JUST CITE SOMEBODY FOR EVERY DAY THAT IT'S IN NONCOMPLIANCE? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. I MIGHT ASK JAMES THAT ONE. YES. WHY NOT? THERE YOU GO. WELL, THAT WAS QUICK.

SO DO YOU KNOW DO YOU DO THAT. DO YOU JUST SAY, HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TEAR THAT DOWN. YOU'RE IN VIOLATION. AND CODE ENFORCEMENT IS JUST GOING TO CITE THAT OWNER EVERY SINGLE DAY THAT IT'S NOT IN COMPLIANCE? ABSOLUTELY. THE STATUTE, THE ORDINANCE AND THE STATUTE EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZED THAT. IT JUST NEEDS TO GET TO THE MUNICIPAL COURT. COMPLAINTS WILL BE FILED, AND THEY WILL BE NOTICED TO APPEAR ON A CODE ENFORCEMENT DOCKET, AND WE CAN HANDLE THEM THAT WAY. THEY WANT TO GO TO TRIAL. WE'LL GO TO TRIAL. WE'LL GO TO TRIAL. I'VE GONE TO TRIAL ON 4050 AT A TIME. WE'LL DO IT PROBABLY. OH, SORRY, CHRIS. GO AHEAD. SO MY QUESTION IS THIS. THEY DON'T SHOW UP FOR COURT. DOES THAT PROPERTY BECOME $25? RIGHT. NO. NOT NECESSARILY. NOT NECESSARILY. THERE'S CERTAIN THERE'S CERTAIN PROCEDURES THAT THE COURT HAS AUTHORITY TO YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT'S WHERE WE TRIGGER THAT. THAT'S TRUE. THE FTA CAN BE ISSUED, BUT IT JUST GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE LEEWAY FOR THE COURT TO ISSUE A WARRANT. SO WE GOT WHAT WE CALL CAPIAS WARRANTS OR BENCH WARRANTS THAT CAN BE THAT COULD BE ISSUED TO CITE THE PERSON TO SHOW UP AND ACTUALLY BE BROUGHT TO COURT. AND I MEAN, I'VE SEEN THAT DONE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE LOCAL, BUT THE JUDGE HAS CERTAIN AUTHORITIES TO TAKE ACTION TO REQUIRE SOMEONE TO SHOW CAUSE. AND AT THAT POINT, IT'S BETWEEN THE THE PERSON AND THE AND THE JUDGE. AND AT THAT POINT, IT'S WITHIN THE JUDGE'S DISCRETION ON HOW TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THERE CAN BE FINES, THERE CAN BE COMMITMENT TO JAIL UNTIL IT CAN BE. THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS, BUT THERE IS. THAT'S A VIOLATION OF WHAT THE COURTS AND THE NOTICE PROCEDURES. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WANTED TO GET THE ORDINANCE IN PLACE, JUST TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE ALL ORDINANCES IN PLACE. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SO MUCH CONCERNED ABOUT A $25 FINE, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT CAPIAS AND WARRANTS AND THOSE TYPES OF PROCEDURES ARE AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, THAT THE CITY HAS DONE WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO TO HAVE ORDINANCES IN PLACE TO, TO, TO SECURE THAT RELIEF IF THE COURT FEELS UNCOMFORTABLE, AND IF THE COURT WISHES TO DO THAT, DOES THAT MEAN YOU LEAN THE PROPERTY, YOU GET THE LEAN THE PROPERTY, YOU CAN LEAN THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN'T SELL IT UNTIL HE MAKES

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HIS OBLIGATIONS. RIGHT. WELL, YOU CAN LEAN THE PROPERTY. IF THE CITY ENTERS THE PROPERTY AND DOES IT, YOU KNOW, AND PERFORMS A DEMOLITION OF THE PROPERTY. SO ANYTIME A PROPERTY IS DEMOLISHED, THERE IS AN ACTUAL LIEN THAT TAKES PRIORITY OVER. IT ACTUALLY TAKES PRIORITY OVER EVERY LIEN EXCEPT THE TAX LIEN. AND SO THERE IS A LIEN PROCEDURE THAT THE CITY CAN USE WHEN WHEN THE PROPERTY IS DEMOLISHED TO REPAY THE THE COST OF THE DEMOLITION. SO THAT PROCESS DOES EXIST. IT'S JUST IT'S A SIMPLE LIEN. IT'S VERY IT'S NOT EVEN NOWHERE NEAR THE THE NOTICE AND HOOP REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU MUST THAT YOU MUST GO THROUGH ON A MECHANIC'S LIEN UNDER, YOU KNOW, FOR CONSTRUCTION. IT'S, IT'S A MUCH RATHER STREAMLINED, SIMPLE PROCESS. AND IT HAS STATUTORY, YOU KNOW, UNDER STATUTE, IT HAS IT TAKES PRECEDENCE OVER NEARLY EVERY OTHER LIEN OUT THERE EXCEPT TAX LIEN. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I. CITY MANAGER, ARE WE AT LIBERTY TO ASK WHAT ARE THE VIOLATIONS AT THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING SETTING IS. SURE. IT'S AN OPEN STRUCTURE. IT'S A IT'S A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE. THERE ARE OTHERS IN TOWN THAT ARE IN MUCH WORSE SHAPE, WHICH IS WHY THOSE HAVE BEEN HANDLED FIRST. BUT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY ON GRANT STREET, LIKE I SAID, IT'S AN OPEN STRUCTURE. NO ROOF ON IT, YOU KNOW, NO ROOF ON IT.

IT'S. SIR, IT'S UGLY. WELL, AND AND YOU KNOW, IT IS DEFINITELY UGLY, BUT UGLY ISN'T YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE OF A HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE AS AN OPEN STRUCTURE AND A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE. AND THE BUILDING OFFICIAL HAS DEEMED IT UNSAFE. SO BUT AGAIN, I THINK FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD ONE. YOU KNOW, DO WE DO WE TEAR IT DOWN IMMEDIATELY OR DO WE? I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO TEAR IT DOWN BECAUSE IT IS DANGEROUS.

YOU KNOW, IT IS A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE, SO IT NEEDS TO COME DOWN. BUT. JUST KNOW THAT OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT AN $80,000 BILL TO, TO TEAR THAT THING DOWN. PROBABLY.

CAN I ASK A SERIOUS QUESTION? IF THAT BUILDING FALLS, IS THE CITY RESPONSIBLE FOR FOR ANYTHING? WE DON'T OWN THE BUILDING. IT'S NOT OUR FAULT IF THAT BUILDING FALLS AND IT LANDS ON THE CITY STREET, SOMEBODY GETS KILLED. WE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT? NO. OKAY.

THAT WAS JUST A QUESTION. WITH THOSE. SO MY MY THOUGHT IS I'M JUST GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ONCE I GET THE QUOTE AND KNOCK IT DOWN AND THEN GET THE. OBVIOUSLY, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO PUT THE LIEN ON THE PROPERTY, BUT I DO THINK MOVING FORWARD. AND NOW THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT IS UNDER PD PROBABLY BEING A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH FINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHEN SOMETHING IS OUT OF OUT OF COMPLIANCE. AND AGAIN, WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THESE ARE DANGEROUS STRUCTURES. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE OPEN STRUCTURES, DANGEROUS STRUCTURES. THESE ARE STRUCTURES THAT ARE OVERGROWN. THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY LITERALLY BECOME AN ENVIRONMENT FOR HARBORAGE FOR LIKE THINGS LIKE SKUNKS AND POSSUMS AND ANIMALS THAT CAN CARRY RABIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THE OTHER THING IS THEY ALSO CAN BECOME HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS. THEY ALSO BECOME A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO HIDE OUT AND DO NEFARIOUS THINGS, WHETHER IT'S DRUG USE OR THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE BROKEN WINDOW THEORY IS A REAL THING, RIGHT? WHERE WE HAVE THIS TYPE OF DILAPIDATION WE HAVE, THERE'S CRIME ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO CLEANING UP OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF, OF CRIME PREVENTION. SO ANY QUESTIONS GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU.

[III.7. Discuss the Board and Commissions appointments.]

AARON. LET'S GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. DISCUSS BOARD AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS. NORMA.

YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL. THE COLORADO RIVER MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT TERMS ARE GOING TO BE UP AT THE END OF THE MONTH. IT'LL BE ON YOUR COUNCIL AGENDA ON THE NEXT MEETING. UP.

THOSE TERMS ARE IS MICKEY JONES AND DAN HOLMAN. BOTH ARE WILLING TO SERVE AGAIN FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OF ODESSA MAYOR. THOSE ARE YOUR APPOINTMENTS. YOU HAVE FIVE APPOINTMENTS. TWO MEMBERS ARE UP. DEANNA ARELLANO, WHO'S WILLING TO SERVE AGAIN. AND RITA BARRIENTOS, THIS POSITION. SHE SERVES AS A. THE POSITION FOR A TENANT IN THE PUBLIC HOUSING. SO THAT IS A REQUIREMENT. SHE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN NOT SERVING. SO EXCUSE ME, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS REACHING OUT TO TENANTS TO SEE WHICH ONE WOULD SERVE IN THIS POSITION. SO WE'LL HOPEFULLY GET NAMES BACK FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

[III.8. Pursuant to Texas Government Code Section 551.101, the City Council will convene into Executive Session, which is closed to the public, to discuss the following matters as permitted under the following sections of the Texas Government Code: a. Section 551.074 Personnel Matters Deliberate the appointment, employment, evaluation, reassignment, duties, and discipline of an Alternate Municipal Court Judge. b. Section 551.071 Consultation with Attorney Consult with the City Attorney pursuant to Section 551.071 and pursuant to Section 1.05, Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct, regarding the donation of real property for use as a fire house.]

OKAY? OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. ALL RIGHT. SECTION AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION FIVE,

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51.101 CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH IS CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC, TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING MATTERS AS PERMITTED UNDER THE FOLLOWING SECTION OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SUBSECTION A, SECTION 551.074 PERSONNEL MATTERS DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT OF APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES AND DISCIPLINE OF AN ALTERNATE MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE. SUBSECTION B, SECTION 551.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY. CONSULT WITH CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071 PURSUANT TO SECTION 105 TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT REGARDING THE DONATION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR USE AS A FIREHOUSE, I NEED A MOTION GOING EXECUTIVE SESSION. GENTLEMEN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR THE COUNCIL TO MOVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY COUNCILMAN HANEY. ALL IN FAVOR? SAY AYE. WE'RE NOW IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT SO, CINCO.. ALL RIGHT, JIM, I NEED A MOTION TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO MOVED. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HAYNIE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CONNELL. ALL IN FAVOR? SAY AYE. AYE. THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKEN DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION. LET'S MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN THE WORK SESSION. MOTION TO ADJOURN BY COUNCILMAN VASQUEZ. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN HAYNIE. ALL IN FAVOR? SAY AYE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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